Can Anyone Translate This?

WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Hmm!</div> Someone I know made me a challenge to translate the following:

D'wadati elefan ka ramnada. Horidan do nol cratadii'sa.

I let it slide at first, but it's starting to bother me. I have absolutely no clue as to what language it is in so now I'm actually taking it up. If anyone can help... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Also, his one demand is I show him my source as to how I translated it..but yeah if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
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  • VarsityVarsity Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25687Members
    It's a middle eastern script, that's for sure.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited February 2004
    Uhm, Perhaps russian. I think Middleeast uses other letters <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Not russian...
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited February 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Feb 5 2004, 03:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Feb 5 2004, 03:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Uhm, Perhaps russian. I think Middleeast uses other letters <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Not russian... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But they still have a phoenetic equivalent in english characters, as do <s>all</s> most languages.
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  • MNStarscreamMNStarscream Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8711Members
    Perhaps it's some fictional language like klingon or elvish
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  • StewieStewie Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18795Members
    I'm putting my money on Swahili <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Looks like Gaelic to me. I'm sad and watch Gaelic TV shows when I'm bored <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DiscoDuckDiscoDuck Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12393Members
    Hindu maybe?
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  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I know for a fact it's not russian.
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  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    From the looks of it I'd say it's not germanic......not Klingon either.....I'm leaning towards middle eastern also.
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  • WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Hmm...I'm pretty sure it's not a European language so I'm leaning towards Asian/Eastern countries, or indeed a fictional language. Hrmm...
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Looks...Finnish. Try that.
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  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    I'm fairly certain he's just messing with you. If you google for specific words you get either irrevelant or no results.
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  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    its most likely the phonetic equivalent in english, which means that we cant figure it out unless we spoke whatever language it is intended to represent. Now if you can get the special characters, that would make things alot easier
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  • NuketheplaceNuketheplace Join Date: 2002-09-02 Member: 1266Members
    The two particles ka and do are used in Japanese, but I know for a fact that that is not Japanese. Maybe some other asian country, but it doesn't look like that ether.
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  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nuketheplace+Feb 5 2004, 06:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nuketheplace @ Feb 5 2004, 06:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The two particles ka and do are used in Japanese, but I know for a fact that that is not Japanese. Maybe some other asian country, but it doesn't look like that ether. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    True, this is not japanese. Also ka is used at the end of a sentence to signify a question (me= <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->).
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  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Gaelic, ha, don't make me laugh.


    Looks a bit like something from Homeworld to me.





    Did he write it down like that or just SAY it to you?
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  • XodlikeXodlike Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16985Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-E-Th33ph+Feb 5 2004, 03:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (E-Th33ph @ Feb 5 2004, 03:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know for a fact it's not russian. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Correct Elven, Russian uses its own Alphabet
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  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    Its the language of Mordor....or maybe its the language of Cthulhu!
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  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Russian uses the Cyrrilic (sp) alphabet, Xodlike. And as I'm currently taking it at University, even the phoenetic spelling of whatever that language at the top post is, is not the same as what an American would try to spell it with the English alphabet.

    Hrm. Not finding anything under google for ya either...
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  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Well, my first guess was Elvish, but I don't think it has enough "l"s in it. Second guess was Indian. Third guess is that your friend is making stuff up.
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Elven, I think he meant if it was written as it sounded, would it work out?
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  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited February 2004
    Perhaps its some really obscure Native American language... Its kinda hard to tell these things without hearing it pronounced.

    If you suspect it is a made up language (conlang) try starting here: <a href='http://www2.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/conlang.html' target='_blank'>http://www2.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/conlang.html</a>
    and working through its samples and links.

    There is aslo the possibility that, depending on the cleverness of the chalenger, this is a transliterated exerpt from some, as of yet, untranslatable (possibly faked) text, such as: <a href='http://www.voynich.nu/' target='_blank'>The Voynich Manuscript</a>
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Stewie+Feb 5 2004, 07:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stewie @ Feb 5 2004, 07:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm putting my money on Swahili <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You are gonna lose. I know for a fact that it isn't swahili.
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  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    It's not Elvish, either. I'm basically certain of that.
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    This could work quite well. Instead of trying to identify which language it is, all we need to do is to say which languages Languages it isnt. Then, we are left with the language that it is.

    Simple

    So, 6 down, 5994 left to go (not including made up ones)
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Actually, it looks more like a shifted-grid cypher output. You can't really use 'code' to translate languages without an EXTENSIVE translator database, and he apparently thinks it's possible to (relatively easily) code a retranslator. Which would more likely than not be a decrypter.

    Might also be a combination-letter-substitution cypher... or a regressive-chain cypher. The first is much easier than the second to deal with.

    Look through a few cryptography books. See if any of them apply.


    (edit: Brainfart... misremembered 'source' as 'code'. Still, may be applicable)
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  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Feb 6 2004, 07:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Feb 6 2004, 07:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, it looks more like a shifted-grid cypher output. You can't really use 'code' to translate languages without an EXTENSIVE translator database, and he apparently thinks it's possible to (relatively easily) code a retranslator. Which would more likely than not be a decrypter.

    Might also be a combination-letter-substitution cypher... or a regressive-chain cypher. The first is much easier than the second to deal with.

    Look through a few cryptography books. See if any of them apply.


    (edit: Brainfart... misremembered 'source' as 'code'. Still, may be applicable) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not so sure. It could be, of course, but it looks too easy to pronounce to be a cypher. Unless he used a seperate cypher for consonants to syllables, or something.
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  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Feb 5 2004, 06:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Feb 5 2004, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Looks...Finnish. Try that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not finnish, and doesn't look even remotely like it.
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  • WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Like I said, I'm fairly certain it's not European since I've basically read/seen every one of them. And yes, he wrote it down like that.

    I appreciate the work you guys put into this though...<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Hee hee. He thinks we're working.

    *cough* um, I mean yeah! We've, uh, got our best men working on it around the clock.
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