Gamma

PeristalsisPeristalsis Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9398Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Adjusting it - no not to cheat that sux</div> - When I fire up all games - my GAMMA sucks - Powercolor 9800 Pro! (some say the motherboard is to blame - A78nx deluxe). (not the montitor - its my 3rd!!)
- I use powerstrip (normally) to bring it up to what I think is reasonable (yes I know some people think its an exploit! - If you want to cheat I am sure there are better ways than this!). My comparisons are based on screenies - but slightly darker - as I am sure they have been 'enhanced' to show people what they are detailing. (sometimes a lot darker!!)
- In NS (not a problem with Steam - I also Play DoD) I can no longer use PowerStrip - the key combinations are no longer recognised.
<b>- I have found an alternative for now which works (email/pm me for info) but its a 30 day free trial, so hopefully before that expires something can be done?</b>

Otherwise - it looks fine (better than ever) I hav'n't tried combat yet - but I got a lan weekend coming up - hoping the dedicated server lets us play!? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

To all involved in the NS scene - great job! I will pay for it if you make it available retail!

Eat you later!
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  • SpetzSpetz Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7100Members
    OK as far as i know this problem only happens on people with ATI cards playing NS on steam or WON. The way you can fix it is to go into your catalyst driver options and bind some keys to increase/decrease gamma in the 3d view color correction tab. You should see it...it's the one with the wolf's head. You need to create hotkeys and remember to check the box that enables the hot keys. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Its not cheats because without increasing my gamma somehow my screen is black - no joke.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    My old monitor was broke, but I did find Adobe Gamma worked with Steam, and was a great fix. I'd suggest that to anyone with problems.
  • JKooLJKooL Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11492Members, Constellation
    I have an ATI Radeon 8500 and prior to Steam was able to use PowerStrip to fix my in-game gamma. However, Steam doesn't let you use external programs to adjust the gamma and now everything is SUPER DARK.

    The only way to play the game is to crank the monitor brightness and contrast up, giving a completely washed out look without fixing the problem.

    Also, enabling hotkeys for catalyst doesn't work either - Unless someone has any other ideas, I think my Half Life days are numbered, it's simply unplayable without being able to adjust the gamma.

    Joe
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    JKool - I don't know what Adobe does different, but it worked for me, give it a try.
  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    Powerstrip = exploit. Modifying and removing map features to give you an advantage is a blatant cheat.
  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Members, Constellation
    just b4 3.0g i lost my gamma, nearly pitch black. Now I hate gamma exploiters but i found a monitor auto-colour config fixed it to look how it was intended. I CAN SEE AGAIN <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I say it's ok to ajust gamma to help you see if your game is PITCH BLACK, but not to the point your gama exploiting and taking advantage of being able to see all the map.

    zippy
  • xectxect Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9807Members
    Catalyst drivers have excellent gamma tuning options. By the way, why is playing with full gamma considered cheating, I hate playing games I can't see and I hate playing games where monitors mean more than skill.

    IMO, game should be designed so that gamma doesn't give you a disadvantage, so I've adjusted mine to make sure I'm not killed blind.
  • interiotinteriot Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12586Members
    edited January 2004
    I have a 9800 too, and the super-dark gamma only happens to me when I have dual heads enabled. So (this sucks, but it's free) I just disable the second monitor whenever I'm playing half life. When you have only one monitor enabled, the in-game gamma settings are sufficient to make things visible. I believe this is a bug in the ATI Catalyst drivers, hopefully it will be fixed at some point.
  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-SuperTeflon+Jan 30 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 30 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Powerstrip = exploit. Modifying and removing map features to give you an advantage is a blatant cheat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read -> think -> reply.
    Just because he is using PowerStrip it doesnt mean that he is exploiting. Maybe you dont have any gamma problems, but other people certainly do, and it sucks if you cant change it.
  • WarriorWarrior Join Date: 2003-02-16 Member: 13624Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SuperTeflon+Jan 30 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 30 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Powerstrip = exploit. Modifying and removing map features to give you an advantage is a blatant cheat.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some people have old monitors that are very dark. Dark games are just plain dumb(when rendered terribly like HL). Why should i die because somebody can see me but i cant see them. I dont know why they try and make NS so dark and "atmospheric". HL does such a terrible job at rendering dark areas. If i wanted to be scared or feel "atmospheric" ill play a game with cool graphics and lighting. I think the anti power strip is a feature to prevent people from exploiting it. I could care less if people crank up the gamma.
  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up
  • GreenGreen Join Date: 2003-12-09 Member: 24166Awaiting Authorization
    edited January 2004
    Is cranking your gamma really considered an exploit? Or only if you use a third-party program to do it?

    I mean, I don't have mine cranked so high that I can see deep into an unlit vent, but I do spot the occasional cloaked skulk, even with the decent boost that cloaking got in NS3.

    It just sounds like the sort of complaint somebody who only plays as aliens would make.

    Shockwave: Where did you get adobe gamma anyway? Last time I needed it, I searched there site for a while and couldn't find it, is it still free?
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    edited January 2004
    Gammajacking is an exploit, though not one that can be effectively prevented without making the game unplayable for people with cheap hardware. It allows you to see things that you aren't supposed to, such as Kharaa hiding in shadows or cloaked, when that surprise element is one of the few things the Alien team DOES have going for it.

    I personally recommend the Adobe Gamma Loader. It's never done me wrong, even on an OLD monitor, and gets rid of at least some of the gammajack accusations as it doesn't have any hotkeys to raise or lower the gamma values (or at least, on the version I'm using it doesn't.. haven't updated in a while).


    Personally, I'd love to see any clans/players who use this to get ahead attend an actual tournament LAN, with 'clean' hardware, all initialized to the proper values intended for NS play. Watch them take a header into the bit bucket as they can't magically see everything clear as day, and be laughed out of the establishment as they get pounded over and over.
  • SpetzSpetz Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7100Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now that is config hacking. If you do that then you should be banned. These commands give you a much bigger advantage than just uppiung your gamma.

    ATI hotkeys should work for everyone, just check to see they are configured properlly.

    Also, i don't know why NS does this because CS and DoD both work find and use my desktop gamma settings, which allow me to see the game. NS switches from my high desktop gamma back to very dark default settings whenever i load it. When i join the game i have to press my hotkey to increase gamma once and it sets my ingame gamma back to normal so that i can see, but without making everything white.

    NS and ATI related bug? This would suggest it is an NS bug considering it works for all other games, HL mods included. I even had this problem in 2.01 with my ATI card. I didn't have this problem when i had my old geforce3, however.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Same thing happened to me (GF3Ti500).
    Adobe Gamma Fixxed it though <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Those settings do nothing for me - I have a Radeon 9600 Pro.

    NS is pitch black unless I mess around with alt+tab to try and use my gamma PowerStrip sets.

    This is a pain in the ****, can something be done about it NS wise to remove any 'gamma' reset controls or something? Its just annoying and if its not fixed ill just remove the game, I cant play it when its pitch dark.
  • BreakfastSausagesBreakfastSausages Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11148Members
    I use powerstrip because without ns is unplayable. I have my in-game gamma and brightness settings all the way up, and I still cannot see an enemy sitting in the middle of the floor in a room with average lighting.

    I played 2.01 on steam for a while and my hotkeys worked fine

    ( hotkeys are a must for someone like me because halflife resets the gamma all the time. now in 3.0 steam the gamma gets reset every time I bring down the console or any of the other stuff (friends, server list, etc.)

    I installed 3.0 and my hotkeys still worked fine for several days, now all of a sudden they don't work anymore and It doesn't make any sense at all.
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I have the exact same problem.

    Where can I downlod Adobe Gamma? Cant find it on their website...
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spetznaz_1+Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetznaz_1 @ Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now that is config hacking. If you do that then you should be banned. These commands give you a much bigger advantage than just uppiung your gamma.

    ATI hotkeys should work for everyone, just check to see they are configured properlly.

    Also, i don't know why NS does this because CS and DoD both work find and use my desktop gamma settings, which allow me to see the game. NS switches from my high desktop gamma back to very dark default settings whenever i load it. When i join the game i have to press my hotkey to increase gamma once and it sets my ingame gamma back to normal so that i can see, but without making everything white.

    NS and ATI related bug? This would suggest it is an NS bug considering it works for all other games, HL mods included. I even had this problem in 2.01 with my ATI card. I didn't have this problem when i had my old geforce3, however. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If it's a 'hack' the command wouldn't exist or at least be blocked.
    I bet you think "bind mwheelup +attack' is a config hack too.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I'm not sure Adobe Gamma is free, I think it came bundled with something else....
  • SpetzSpetz Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7100Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Birdy+Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spetznaz_1+Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetznaz_1 @ Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now that is config hacking. If you do that then you should be banned. These commands give you a much bigger advantage than just uppiung your gamma.

    ATI hotkeys should work for everyone, just check to see they are configured properlly.

    Also, i don't know why NS does this because CS and DoD both work find and use my desktop gamma settings, which allow me to see the game. NS switches from my high desktop gamma back to very dark default settings whenever i load it. When i join the game i have to press my hotkey to increase gamma once and it sets my ingame gamma back to normal so that i can see, but without making everything white.

    NS and ATI related bug? This would suggest it is an NS bug considering it works for all other games, HL mods included. I even had this problem in 2.01 with my ATI card. I didn't have this problem when i had my old geforce3, however. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If it's a 'hack' the command wouldn't exist or at least be blocked.
    I bet you think "bind mwheelup +attack' is a config hack too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol seriously. I know almost all there is to know about config hacking and the HL engine. That, my friend, IS config hacking.

    Any half-decent cvar blocking program like wwcl or hlguard would block these cvars. The CS community knows it's cheating and so does the dod community. Get with the program.

    Those cvars are cheats, external gamma is not cheats. Simple.
  • the_unlucky_onethe_unlucky_one Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19620Members
    Just search for Adobe Gamma, itz works fine and if anyone says you are hacking, just tell them to turn down their monitor gamma <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    You can find in it on search engine I think, but I found it in Kazaa Lite, downloading at your own risk though..O-o
  • babyheadcrabbabyheadcrab Join Date: 2003-12-28 Member: 24825Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spetznaz_1+Jan 31 2004, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetznaz_1 @ Jan 31 2004, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Birdy+Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spetznaz_1+Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetznaz_1 @ Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now that is config hacking. If you do that then you should be banned. These commands give you a much bigger advantage than just uppiung your gamma.

    ATI hotkeys should work for everyone, just check to see they are configured properlly.

    Also, i don't know why NS does this because CS and DoD both work find and use my desktop gamma settings, which allow me to see the game. NS switches from my high desktop gamma back to very dark default settings whenever i load it. When i join the game i have to press my hotkey to increase gamma once and it sets my ingame gamma back to normal so that i can see, but without making everything white.

    NS and ATI related bug? This would suggest it is an NS bug considering it works for all other games, HL mods included. I even had this problem in 2.01 with my ATI card. I didn't have this problem when i had my old geforce3, however. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If it's a 'hack' the command wouldn't exist or at least be blocked.
    I bet you think "bind mwheelup +attack' is a config hack too. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol seriously. I know almost all there is to know about config hacking and the HL engine. That, my friend, IS config hacking.

    Any half-decent cvar blocking program like wwcl or hlguard would block these cvars. The CS community knows it's cheating and so does the dod community. Get with the program.

    Those cvars are cheats, external gamma is not cheats. Simple. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wow for the guy calling out "config hacking" thats pretty damn funny

    if the game is unplayable and they use those commands to SEE in ns or an aformentioned mod and its not blocked that means its perfectly fine... stop acting all above everyone elese maybe he just wants to play the game

    btw i have to ad this AHAHHAHAHAHAH you say "config hacking" ahhahahahahha, everything there is to know about hl hacking eh? maybe you oughta stop hacking BWABWBABWABWBWABBAWBWABBWABWa and dl'ing meta cheat doesent mean you know everything there is to know about hl hacking fyi
  • WolvWolv Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 56Members
    The reason NS gives problems while other MOD's don't probably lies in the use of <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/Mapping_Guidelines.html#env_gamma' target='_blank'>overbrightening</a>. Perhaps Flayre can add a command to turn this off. Although this will make maps slightly darker on normal monitors, it should prevent old hardware from going black.
  • MemranMemran Join Date: 2003-05-17 Member: 16406Members, Constellation
    I posted about this many times before public beta....
    Each time the topic was reduced to flames and exploit accusations.

    I have the problem due to my monitor. I even have to crank up the gamma on my desktop! For this reason I purchased powerstrip (loads cheaper then new screen....)

    This is a bug. Software should never render other software useless.. especially the stuff we paid for.
  • babyheadcrabbabyheadcrab Join Date: 2003-12-28 Member: 24825Members, Constellation
    I consider it a bug, the most annoying one ns has to, therefore fixes even if they are exploits to should not be frowned apon atm until its fixed. Some people are just anal retentive
  • Patrick_The_Super_SkulkPatrick_The_Super_Skulk Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21212Members
    And this is why god created idiots....
  • SpetzSpetz Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7100Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-babyheadcrab+Jan 31 2004, 02:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (babyheadcrab @ Jan 31 2004, 02:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spetznaz_1+Jan 31 2004, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetznaz_1 @ Jan 31 2004, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Birdy+Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spetznaz_1+Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetznaz_1 @ Jan 31 2004, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Jan 30 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you don't even need powerstrip
    just put in texgamma 1 and lightgamma 1 in your config and bam your gamma's all jacked up <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now that is config hacking. If you do that then you should be banned. These commands give you a much bigger advantage than just uppiung your gamma.

    ATI hotkeys should work for everyone, just check to see they are configured properlly.

    Also, i don't know why NS does this because CS and DoD both work find and use my desktop gamma settings, which allow me to see the game. NS switches from my high desktop gamma back to very dark default settings whenever i load it. When i join the game i have to press my hotkey to increase gamma once and it sets my ingame gamma back to normal so that i can see, but without making everything white.

    NS and ATI related bug? This would suggest it is an NS bug considering it works for all other games, HL mods included. I even had this problem in 2.01 with my ATI card. I didn't have this problem when i had my old geforce3, however. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If it's a 'hack' the command wouldn't exist or at least be blocked.
    I bet you think "bind mwheelup +attack' is a config hack too. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol seriously. I know almost all there is to know about config hacking and the HL engine. That, my friend, IS config hacking.

    Any half-decent cvar blocking program like wwcl or hlguard would block these cvars. The CS community knows it's cheating and so does the dod community. Get with the program.

    Those cvars are cheats, external gamma is not cheats. Simple. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wow for the guy calling out "config hacking" thats pretty damn funny

    if the game is unplayable and they use those commands to SEE in ns or an aformentioned mod and its not blocked that means its perfectly fine... stop acting all above everyone elese maybe he just wants to play the game

    btw i have to ad this AHAHHAHAHAHAH you say "config hacking" ahhahahahahha, everything there is to know about hl hacking eh? maybe you oughta stop hacking BWABWBABWABWBWABBAWBWABBWABWa and dl'ing meta cheat doesent mean you know everything there is to know about hl hacking fyi <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know nothing.
  • BreakfastSausagesBreakfastSausages Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11148Members
    Please take your conversation about hacking to a new thread. And stop re-nesting quotes that is very annoying. I need this this topic to develop some useful information which is vital to my chances of actually playing ns and you guys arguing are wasting my time. I would report this thread already if I the gamma issue wasnt screwing me so much.


    Back on topic: I saw something on adobe's website that said adobe gamma is installed with photoshop, and I couldn't find it as a separate product.



    ps: kazaa lite is spyware created by the RIAA you should delete it.
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    why not use light gamma? just set it to 1 at its brighter and u still get all the lighting effects.

    as for using 3rd party stuff sounds like over kill to me.
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