Ns To Go Retail !

IchthysIchthys Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16359Members
<div class="IPBDescription">quote from Flayra</div> This is a response (supposedly from Flayra) on a news threat at www.natural-selection.de

<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra at www.natural-selection.de+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra at www.natural-selection.de)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks for the great respnose here. I love reading positive feedback from you guys, and it's very encouraging to hear that some of you are interested in what we're up to, and might be interested in a) buying our games b) investing in us.

We're definitely going to keep supporting NS, but we're also going to be moving onto bigger and better NS-like projects.
<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>We are trying to get NS into retail, and are also looking at engines and thinking about NS2</span></b>.
If anyone is seriously interested in investing in UWE, please don't hesitate to drop me an e-mail at flayra (at) overmind.org. By seriously I mean that you're 18 or older, and have 10K or more cash that you would seriously consider giving for some stake in the company. It's not easy to get started, and we're looking at traditional publishing arrangements, as well as private investors.

I think it's safe to say that you ain't seen nothin' yet. If you like NS I think you'll lllooove what comes next (though you're going to have to wait for it).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • davidsansomedavidsansome Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13228Members, Constellation
    A news threat? Sounds dangerous... I hope Flayra comes out ok.
  • JPPJPP Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21221Members
    can that quote be authenticated? :o
  • styleestylee Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14802Members
    This is um, already pretty much known that Charlie was thinking about/trying to NS to go retail.
  • PowerslavEPowerslavE Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21962Members
    Considering other things that the site has said have been apparently been completely made up or assumed, I'm doubting it. Now, even if Flarya said that exact thing, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL GO RETAIL. Valve still has to purchase it and want to sell it, which would probably also mean they'd want a say in how things go. I dunno if Flarya would be ready to give a decent amount of control to someone random at Valve.

    But I could (and probably am) wrong.
  • MystiqqMystiqq Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11755Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Valve still has to purchase it and want to sell it...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why? If...
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We are trying to get NS into retail, and are also looking at engines and thinking about NS2.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If they are in fact looking for engines for the NS, it would mean that it won't be a "mod" for HL, thus why would Valve have anything to do with it. Unless of course the "engine" is Valve's own engine (HL2 engine?). Since Valve doesn't own the "Natural Selection" or am i wrong.

    EDIT:I got the NS and NS2 mixed up, so yes, Valve has to buy and sell if they plan to get it to retail <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Cheers...
    -M
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Looking at that quote from NS.de, all they did was rip out what Flayra said in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=57372&st=60' target='_blank'>this thread</a> and stick it on the website.... And why the hell cant I see NS.de? its just a blank white screen.
  • ironbiTeironbiTe Join Date: 2003-12-29 Member: 24839Members
    I would wait for HalfLife 2 and the feedback and than i can think about producing a retail Version.... at this moment i would not risk this heap of money... or you use an old Engine... that is after HL 2 relase more favorably... but who wants to play old engiens when a new is avaiable... its a hard decision.... because you cannot see the difference between investments in a retail version and the resulting conversion... and we all dont want that Flayra becomes poor and makes owe.... hm hm.... iam so criticly because i was envolved in a plan like this before some years and it ran inclined.... so... for us, the user, its now the best situation... free of charge... but Flayra and his team also have to life...

    I think probably too many <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Have a niCe Day!
    ironbiTe
  • IchthysIchthys Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16359Members
    Yeah, you were right. Its all in this thread (!) <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=57372&st=60' target='_blank'>Link</a>
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited December 2003
    There is no news. NS is not to go retail before you hear it's being published. Flayra would like so, but untill he announces a deal for it, not just the plans, we're not knowing any more than we did for more than a year now. He also said that NS would always remain a free download, which my have made some people decide that he didn't want it to go retail. But look at CS and DoD. It can be done.

    Ther real news is that Flayra is forming a company.
  • CWolfCWolf Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12483Members
    Sounds very interesting on the matter of Flayra is forming a company.
    I look forward to more information later.
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    cool i think flayra read my comment <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> oink oink keep on waitin
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Flayra already had a company. He's just decided to give it a name and (presumably) hire more people.

    It would be silly for him to NOT try and sell NS software eventually. He really can't lose, since the hard part will already be over (development). A cd, some paper, and some cardboard will be pretty much all that's left to handle. Word of mouth has already got his advertising done, + having it on the main list of games in STEAM won't hurt either.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I'm pretty sure all NS.de does is take well known news and stick them on the site. Then take credit for them. Oh well.
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> i like guys with over 1k comment ^^ <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RIP_BobRIP_Bob Join Date: 2003-12-06 Member: 24027Members
    Heh, cant offer anything really, but i am connected to a few large companies in my country and with any luck might be able to get a few coins pumped in
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ichthys wie heisst du im spiel?
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Dec 29 2003, 03:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Dec 29 2003, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra already had a company. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhm..... ( add U's til tired )
    No ?
    He and some friends decided to make a game
    That is NOT having a company...
    Please...
  • PaladinPaladin Join Date: 2002-10-06 Member: 1455Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ichthys wie heisst du im spiel?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Translated into english for cold-nite : " Ichtys, what's your nickname in-game ?"

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    1. No posting in foreign languages. We moderators can only speak and understand English.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read (and understand)the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=35' target='_blank'>Forum Rules</a> before posting please, kthx.

    And on topic:

    Flayra already stated in an Interview in (ermm) September 02 (guessed date, it was a few month prior to release) that he would like NS to go retail if a publisher would contact him, so this is quite old news. In Addition I think that the news poster of NS.de kinda wrote the news in german in a way it could be misunderstood.(e.g. "OMG NS IS RETAIL !!!!!111!1one")
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BluePhish+Dec 29 2003, 09:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BluePhish @ Dec 29 2003, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ichthys wie heisst du im spiel? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Can anyone tell me what he said? After paladin's comment I'm kinda curious. If it's personal, then nevermind.
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    sorry this language is only 1337 sp34k <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    remember mtw or gampoint.AMD they are 1337
  • DiabolusCaligoDiabolusCaligo Join Date: 2003-09-05 Member: 20585Members, Constellation
    Valve would have a lot to do with it, because they made the engine (or published it, I forget which one <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ). I think that Valve would need to purchase NS, or Flayra would need to purchase the rights to use the engine for retail (again, I forget which one <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    where do flay take the ideas
    alien triliogy AvP2?
    or other films or games? <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Dec 29 2003, 10:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Dec 29 2003, 10:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Valve would have a lot to do with it, because they made the engine (or published it, I forget which one <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ). I think that Valve would need to purchase NS, or Flayra would need to <b>purchase the rights to use the engine</b> for retail (again, I forget which one <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unless they move to another engine for NS1, which is possible anyway. Though that would require a load of work, whereas just going through all the legal stuff needed to have NS1 go retail on the HL engine would probably be the more straightforward route. But in the post, he did hint towards looking at new engines, don't remember if this was for NS1 or 2, probably 2, all things considered.

    Oh and Bluephish... L337Speak? Isn't that German? L337Speak is what happened when a bunch of lazy Americans like myself d3c1d3d 2 5k1p L3773R'5 4nd u53 #'5 1N5734D. <== Thats probably carrying it too far because I replaced T's => 7's, S's => 5's etc. instead of just A and E.
    So how about that translation? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Rotten_FleshRotten_Flesh Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9203Members
    Maybe the flayra is postponing the release of 3.0 so he can get his company together and release it retail ! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rotten Flesh+Dec 29 2003, 10:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rotten Flesh @ Dec 29 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe the flayra is postponing the release of 3.0 so he can get his company together and release it retail ! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I dearly hope not. Not only would that mean more delays, but it would mean I would have to buy the game to continue playing. Which would be hard right now, as I am low on cash. But I really doubt he would do that. I mean, he might as well just wait to create NS2 and make that retail, instead of trying to turn NS1 into a retail product. But that is just my two cents.
  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rotten Flesh+Dec 29 2003, 10:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rotten Flesh @ Dec 29 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe the flayra is postponing the release of 3.0 so he can get his company together and release it retail ! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.

    Max
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Max, your posts are getting more elaborate by the minute <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    That post is on the NS.org forums.

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=57372&st=60' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...1&t=57372&st=60</a>

    It was in reply to the encouragement the NS community was giving him in when his company was first learned about.

    3.0 isn't being held back, it is just nowhere near ready for release. Lots of testing to go yet.

    I cream myself even thinking of NS2.
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->d3c1d3d 2 5k1p L3773R'5 4nd u53 #'5 1N5734D<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->=decided to skip letter?s and use #?s instead
  • BluePhishBluePhish Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24364Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    this topic is rly hot 2 anonyms user <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> ?em
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