Apparently Someone Likes The Ns Idea...

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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    After all, it's not like NS's aliens vs marines idea is unique. The rts/1st person shooter part, however, is unique, so what's wrong with other mods using it to create something else? It doesn't look like a total rip-off, so what's the harm.
  • buZZardbuZZard Join Date: 2003-10-10 Member: 21569Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Nov 5 2003, 01:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Nov 5 2003, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The rts/1st person shooter part, however, is unique, so what's wrong with other mods using it to create something else? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just to clarify: It's not!
    Ever played Battlezone(2)? Or even Dungeon Keeper! Yeah ^__^
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe Counter Strike was a 2nd gen mod.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If anyone gets picky about it, CS owes SO much to Action Quake II. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    *Shockeh passes the parcel to the 'Oh, AQ2 owes SO much to.... ' person.
  • KhaimKhaim Join Date: 2002-06-28 Member: 841Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    This sounds so unbearably like Battlezone II.. I mean like EXACTLY like Battlezone II,1 comm, 2 races(not 3 :/), all other players are pilots/infantry, and there are AI controlled units, on huge outdoor maps, with real sized buildings o.O.

    Nothing wrong with battleZone tho, always liked the game, too bad they didnt make more, looks like a good mod tho.
  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Khaim+Nov 5 2003, 12:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Khaim @ Nov 5 2003, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This sounds so unbearably like Battlezone II.. I mean like EXACTLY like Battlezone II,1 comm, 2 races(not 3 :/), all other players are pilots/infantry, and there are AI controlled units, on huge outdoor maps, with real sized buildings o.O.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    do ppl still PLAY battlezone II? i hear about it alot. worth picking up?

    also, sorry for that post that got nuked.

    and one last thing, where is the link to this mod?
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    but it DOES sound alot like NS!

    Could a law-suit be far off!!?!?!? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • typicalskeletontypicalskeleton Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 14011Members
    I think this type of thread shouldn't be allowed.

    it's the same as CS fanboys coming in here and posting how much NS sucks, vice-versa.. or us doing that on this board. "Oh this mod sucks!"

    Halo has aliens, humans... vehicles.. large outdoor maps... a lot of games have the humans versus aliens things, MOST RTS games have different races. It's just another mod. NS was clearly inspired by many, many different things, and many of those things were inspired by many other things, as well... it's just a big cycle.

    To make a post and act like this guy is ripping off NS is absolutely ridiculous, and uncalled for. I'd say a mod that has a giant, evil cow that can magically go through tiny corridors deserves ridicule if I didn't know better -- but that game is NS!

    Think more before making these kinds of posts. As far as I'm concerned, this whole discussion is just spam.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    shouldn't we be happy that a game similar to this game is made? And aren't we supposed to hope it to be EVEN BETTER? I mean "it's time to evolve" does imply we will finish by evolving doesn't it.

    Now of course, if you compare it to savage, it's not going to be the same sort of fun, but if it's NS with ++goodies, there's no reason we should hate it.

    Note: he does even say "it has already been done"
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Khaim+Nov 5 2003, 03:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Khaim @ Nov 5 2003, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This sounds so unbearably like Battlezone II.. I mean like EXACTLY like Battlezone II,1 comm, 2 races(not 3 :/), all other players are pilots/infantry, and there are AI controlled units, on huge outdoor maps, with real sized buildings o.O.

    Nothing wrong with battleZone tho, always liked the game, too bad they didnt make more, looks like a good mod tho. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tell the BattleZone people (if there are any left, that is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) so THEY can be up in arms, we then watch from afar the chaos we created <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->


    NoImagination, yes, yes you can steal your own ideas, you can be caught for cheating for plagerising yourself. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • booogerboooger Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22274Members
    i made this thread to show people what was coming out, then my personal opinion on *one* aspect of the game. didn't realize it would become a poop-fest. i don't know if you're referring to me skele, or not. i do know, however, that my intent of this post was not the path this thread seems to be taking. oh well.
  • DihardDihard Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10365Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    The only way Flayra could do anything would be if someone used the Natural Selection name; this genre definately does not belong to NS. Anyway, here's another mod that's using the same FPS/RTS theme, and it's looking really cool, though it's development is taking forever: <a href='http://www.unreal-command.com/' target='_blank'>Unreal Command</a>.
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    Dude the leader of this mod said NS was the best hl mod. And if you read the about section of his webby he says the main inspiration was from NS. Here are the links. <a href='http://www.in-charge.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7' target='_blank'>This is when he said it was best hl mod</a>

    <a href='http://www.in-charge.org/index.php?page=About' target='_blank'>go right to the bottom of this page to see the inspiration.</a>
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
    I wonder if those mods can pull it off effectively... we shall see! AI controlled bots sounds lame to me though.
  • KappaKappa Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 17996Members
    i see where your all coming from
    but why not let the original alien vs marines hybrid rts/fps mod for HL, make it for HL2?
  • SilverAxSilverAx Join Date: 2003-10-26 Member: 21976Members
    All i can say is that NS using the HL2 engine will be wicked.
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Just a thought: you can sue for copyright infringement/plagerism/etc. without releasing a commercial product. Just because you give something away doesn't mean somebody else can sell your stuff.

    Don't take this as a support of a lawsuit: that would still be silly in this case. It was just a heads-up about the legal system in the US.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    it all depends on how evil Flayra really is.

    Kappa, before making a NS for HL2, they want it to be perfect for HL, as a port would be quite long, especially if you want to go further than just change engine. You'd want that NS (on HL2) to have stuff like wall destroying, oni charging and crushing buildings, knocking turrets off their feet, etc.. If it's just to have the exact same game, just use HL because it's enough.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I'm not exactely sure why the community believes that Flayra should sue any other FPS/RTS. What if Blizzard had tried to sue Westwood for C&C?
    Good luck, In Charge.
  • NeoKnightNeoKnight Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 19024Members
    someone most likly has said this already... but ah what the hell OMGWTH NS is a fps/rts rip off of alien vs pred and starcraft! (hehe sorry I just wanted to post that) <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->


    anyway there is a rts/fps/space flight sim shooter mod announced for hl2..... can't remember the name. All I remember is reading something about fleet captains and soilders and large scale battles, and being able to hijack other ships and ect.
  • Death_RevenantDeath_Revenant Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23035Members
    vehicles?open maps? man, it looks like a improved verion of ns.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    You commited thread necromancy just for that? GG.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    *uses psychic powers* you will die a terrible, terrible death.
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