Ns 1.04

Jinnai · November 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Wanting</div> Well, having played some 2.1q, and a lot of 2.01RC1, I find myself wanting to play some of what I learned on. See, NS was really the first first person shooted I played in depth - I only played CS before that, and we all know how strategic that gets. But I like the older things of 1.04 from time to time. A couple of nights ago, I convinces 6 other people to come play, adn we had a good two or three games of 4vs3, on eclipse then on nothing. Oh how fun it was. Im not saying I think 1.04 is better, Im just saying I would like to play it some more. There are two dedicated 1.04 servers out there, and its pretty fun. Anyone care to play at some point? Im on from about 5pm to 11pm EST, on IRC a lot... in #naturalselection, #sonsofmetal, and some others.

JuNgLiSt · November 2003

i love it too

NS 1.04 was an amazing game <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

Jammer · November 2003

Do you guys remember 1.04?

The game was just not fun. Jetpacks dominated, Marines were too strong. The only time you got a good game was with a ridiculously overpowering alien team. The game was all about

2.0 is way better. :-)
The only thing 1.04 had better: the Gorge was much more important. I miss that.

MrPink · November 2003

I agree, 1.04 was fun and still is for some nostalgia...

Downloads here for anyone interested
<a href='http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/halflife/modifications/naturalselection/patches/win32/ns_install_v1.exe' target='_blank'>NS 1.0</a>
<a href='http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/halflife/modifications/naturalselection/patches/win32/ns-v104.zip' target='_blank'>NS 1.04 Update (Only Required for Server)</a>

JuNgLiSt · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrPink @ Nov 18 2003, 11:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I agree, 1.04 was fun and still is for some nostalgia...

Downloads here for anyone interested
<a href='http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/halflife/modifications/naturalselection/patches/win32/ns_install_v1.exe' target='_blank'>NS 1.0</a>
<a href='http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/halflife/modifications/naturalselection/patches/win32/ns-v104.zip' target='_blank'>NS 1.04 Update (Only Required for Server)</a>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
this version is great

unfortunately, here in Brasil we don't have 1.04 servers anymore <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>
i try to play on internacional servers but the ping is too high

marines are stronger, but this one is tooo FUN
i remember playing this for hours and hours without stop

Wither · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jammer @ Nov 18 2003, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Do you guys remember 1.04?

The game was just not fun. Jetpacks dominated, Marines were too strong. The only time you got a good game was with a ridiculously overpowering alien team. The game was all about

2.0 is way better. :-)
The only thing 1.04 had better: the Gorge was much more important. I miss that.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
1.04 may not have been balanced, but it sure as hell was an experience you wont forget.

Epic battles for that one hive, getting that one PG up sneakily at processing, 2.0 doesn't have those things. Battles aren't as epic, there are no huge struggles for one area, everything's..faster.
2.0's good, but 1.04..swoon.

killswitch · November 2003

Yes, 1.04 definitely had some cool parts:
1. Putting DCs in the vents at marine start
2. TONS of skulks vs. vanilla marine battles with ambushing and the rest
3. No bottled up marines thanks to an onos that was actually a good base wrecker.
4. Not getting fully upgraded every game
5. <b>THE THRILL OF BREAKING A TWO HIVE LOCK DOWN</b> What a satisfying feeling!

Epidemic · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jammer @ Nov 18 2003, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Do you guys remember 1.04?

The game was just not fun. Jetpacks dominated, Marines were too strong. The only time you got a good game was with a ridiculously overpowering alien team. The game was all about

2.0 is way better. :-)
The only thing 1.04 had better: the Gorge was much more important. I miss that.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Let people be entitled to their own opinion you nay-sayer <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

Rush_Of_Peons · November 2003

yer 1.04 was much more satisfying than the 2.0 series, the actual satisfactaion of finally being able to fade/onos or even just to take a hive. Now its get HA as fast as possible and spam shotguns, res is way too sparing most of the time. Games where the aliens had a chance in large games, etc. Yes it took skill to pull off but i reckon it was much more epic and satisfying to play. Cant say ive played much NS 2.1 seeing that ive got a mate whos constellation but so far i dont like the swing towards marine (again).

Jinnai · November 2003

Well, Im glad to see others like 1.04 still. Im going to try and convince a dude I know to host a server... I don't know how many people would be interested.

Byeka · November 2003

Jetpacks were actually fun back then... I miss them.

Align · November 2003

[opinion]
The only things I can say that I like more with 1.04 than with 2.0 and later, is zooming around the maps at 300 mph with a jetpack, and simply being better than the marines and capping a whole lot of res as a gorge.
And instant blink fade.

Getting killed with 9 bullets unless you get carapace(26 level 0 LMG bullets for a 2 res lifeform? plz.) wasn't very fun either.

Chapukwuk · November 2003

Hi. I must say I liked 1.04 much more than the current version even though it is more balanced. I downloaded ns 1.0 and the 1.04 update. I want to play it with some friends on a lan but unfortually I have only enough computers. Do I have to host a dedicated server to get the 1.04 update?

Forlorn · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Freak83 @ Nov 19 2003, 04:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Jetpacks were actually fun back then... I miss them.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Never fear, in 2.1 jetpacks own

SemperFi1 · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (killswitch1968 @ Nov 19 2003, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 5. <b>THE THRILL OF BREAKING A TWO HIVE LOCK DOWN</b> What a satisfying feeling!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh you mean after the 3 hour stalemate?

Gliss · November 2003

I'm in Epidemic's sig! Wheee!
It just goes to show, my wit, humor, wumor and hit cannot be matched by anyone.

RedDragon · November 2003

best thing that 2.1 and 1.04 have in common...JPs...why? because they're so much fun to lerk bite out of the sky >;)

KaMiKaZe1 · November 2003

I can honestly say NS 1.04 was the most fun I've ever had gaming. I played it 6+ hours a day. I dedicated my <u>entire</u> summer to it. I became nocturnal so nothing would interrupt me and so there was no glare on my monitor. It was my life. Not to say 2.0 isn't fun, but there is something about it that makes it less addictive then 1.04 was. ^^

From what I've heard of 2.1, it looks like the good times will be coming back, and with it the hopeless addiction. ^^

Ugly_Jim · November 2003

I liked 1.04 as much as the next guy, but how can you prefer it over 2.01 or 2.1? clan matches were a joke and pubs were just acid rockets everywhere

Chapukwuk · November 2003

Ummm ya, can anyone answer my question? Thanks.

Barneys_Soul · November 2003

i just got 1.4 and coundent find any servers <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> i wana try it i only came to ns at 2.0

PS:1 noticed skuks only got 10 aromer, holy s***, im imaginig marines domanated of course, kilen a skuk in 8 shots.

PPS: i notice that wile maken my own server <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

ANeM · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 23 2003, 12:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I can honestly say NS 1.04 was the most fun I've ever had gaming. I played it 6+ hours a day. I dedicated my <u>entire</u> summer to it. I became nocturnal so nothing would interrupt me and so there was no glare on my monitor. It was my life. Not to say 2.0 isn't fun, but there is something about it that makes it less addictive then 1.04 was. ^^

From what I've heard of 2.1, it looks like the good times will be coming back, and with it the hopeless addiction. ^^  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Kamikaze my friend, I know the feeling. I dedicated my entire spring <i>and</i> summer to NS. I failed 2 courses and had to take summer school and spent the entire time drawing pictures of skulks and marines. NS 1.04 was just addicting. Plain and simple. NS2.0 is fun.. but it seems to lack the addicting complexities that made 1.04 so great.

Chapukwuk · November 2003

I downloaded ns 1.0 and the 1.04 update. I want to play it with some friends on a lan but unfortually I have only enough computers. Do I have to host a dedicated server to get the 1.04 update?

ANeM · November 2003

Nope.. Just put the update on the computer running the server and it should be fine.

KI6 · November 2003

I will say 2.x is better than 1.x in my opinion, but that's sort of irrelevant to the topic. However, (to be on-topic) I can say that I have a demo (thanks to the other person who recorded it as demo recording would crash HL.exe for me) of an "epic deadlock" in 1.04. I must say that is the most exciting and memorable match I've ever had. I replay it in my mind many times and I long to do it again. (But currently I'm stuck with "missing commander.mdl" causing a crash in Steam.)

locallyunscene · November 2003

Jeez I'm starting to get 1.04 nostalgic now. People complained about the 3 hour stalemates but those were fun! I miss the epic battles over hive two. I never really played 2.0 as much, it's fun but it's very different speed wise. battles are decided quickly. I can only remeber one 2.01 game where we actually had a non-grenade spam induced epic battle. I wonder if I would be any good if i went back to 1.04. It was fun to be a overpowered marine even if it wasn't fair, it was also fun to take down those marines. Epecially the ones with jetpacks. I would probably get frustrated again though. If the alien team had any problems, it was over. I guess I don't miss that.

ironpancake · November 2003

After 2.0 came out I COMPLETELY stopped playing ns. I didn't find the games as fun. The entire feal of that game was differant. People seemed less friendly. Back in 1.4 you could have entire conversations while playing matches. In 2.0 i didn't see any of that. I would love it if more people hosted 1.4 servers. And yes i like those 3 hours stalmates too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> .

1.4 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> 2.0

Diskord · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ironpancake @ Nov 24 2003, 03:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> After 2.0 came out I COMPLETELY stopped playing ns. I didn't find the games as fun. The entire feal of that game was differant. People seemed less friendly. Back in 1.4 you could have entire conversations while playing matches. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Thats because there was nothing TO do. You just waited for HMG/Jetpacks or for two hives. And that was dependent on your commander/gorge. I used to single handedly take down alien hives ( from commander -> hmg jetpacker ). *

NS 2.0 made it somewhat important what EVERYONE did.

*as far as pubs go

Forlorn · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ironpancake @ Nov 24 2003, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> After 2.0 came out I COMPLETELY stopped playing ns. I didn't find the games as fun. The entire feal of that game was differant. People seemed less friendly. Back in 1.4 you could have entire conversations while playing matches. In 2.0 i didn't see any of that. I would love it if more people hosted 1.4 servers. And yes i like those 3 hours stalmates too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> .

1.4 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> 2.0  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yes, I too I wished that in my pub games I could converse more with a group of people I've never met or cared about online. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

That's where I get all of my fun!

Eidolan · November 2003

2.0 seems to be alot of the "same old same old", most of all in 2.0(frist one). Senterys just got spammed all over. Good thing they made them do less damage to ono. One think i liked in 1.04 was a ono was really a reason to say "oh-no!". in 2.0 people say "ono", i'm like "so what? hand out 2 shotguns and a pack of mines and hes toast"

Align · November 2003

2.0 has innumerably more <b>valid</b> tactics you can use to win. Only thing that was changed about onos survivability is the reduced carapace bonus(meaning no sane onos get cara anymore). However, charge suxors now, it could make quite a difference in 1.0x what with the framerate dependancy. Zooming around at high speeds making you hard to shoot, and dealing a LOT of damage if you touch someone/-thing.
And onos wouldn't appear without charge(hive dependancy, you know).

Ns 1.04

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