Babblers And Changes In 2.1
jamespsx
Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
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Babblers, i don't believe are returning.
so whats up with this focus thingy to do with SC's?
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ITS BEHIND U!
does it make attacks powerful X2 or something like that cos have an SC nearby when attacking was always a big advantage cos u could run up infront of them and only the quikest of internets could show u up intime... but motion tracking ruined that cos they always 'saw' where u are...
Sens chambers also negate the effect of motion tracking within their sphere of influence.
Deal with it.
gud news for me about mation tracking and SC's blocking it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ... can someone post a screeny of the focus upgrade? What will focus displace in the sens upgrade list?
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Marine: Wheres that skulk gone? *in one second and one bite he will be dead if u get focus! am i right? (he has no armour uppys)*
haha, exactly
If they were more powerfull though, they could really be useful against a webbed marine <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
bubblers with sc nearby could also be very nice <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yes. Sens currently provides Focus, Scent of Fear and Cloaking.
I don't believe this is in the changelog, but I believe the exact numbers for focus are +1/3, +2/3, and +1 times normal damage and cooldown for the slot one weapon. So bite, spit, lerkbite(that one's back in the current build, but babblers almost certainly won't be), swipe, and gore do double damage with double cooldown at level 3. This primary helps stealth attacks if they aren't upgraded and you can kill them in the first hit. Even with upgrades, if you take knockback into account, having to get into range half as many times can be a plus, even if you have to take a little extra time between. It also helps hit and runs, like our friendly blinking fades. When all you can do is blink in, swipe once, and blink out, it's nice when that one blink can kill something. It also helps an onos (or others) not run out of energy while bashing down buildings, since each double damage attack takes up the same energy as a normal attack, but only happens half as often.
It's a very handy situational upgrade, just like cloaking. Add scent of fear, and I think you have a well rounded, usefull sense chamber that can really compete with the other 2 in terms of build order. Overall, defense is still first most often, but not always. Whether sense of movement is second after defense seems to be a lot harder choice now than it was.
Used to be the gorges 3 hive weapon. They were AI controlled skulks who used the snarks AI (I'm guessing about that). Either way you look at it they were totally brain dead, and while a cool feature, were not really all that usefull. So, they were removed to let the gorge have Bilebomb. They were in v.1-1.04, removed in 2.0 on.
Focus though im not sure wat it has to do with the word SENSORY. If anyone can clear this up wit ha change of the meaning in the dictionary pls explain <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
But after playing combat, i still want my spikies back as well as bite, although primal cream may be ok, its hardly used and should be dumped. Id really like the old lerk Bite>Spike>Umbra>Super Spore (sed so coz it was hooge and damaging thru walls too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) This would especially rock with the new flying physics for lerk
*swoop*spike BITE BITE spike spkie *lerks laughs at poor HA and runs away to eat next victim*
I think that would make things pretty umbalanced. OC's rock already, just need to know how and when to use them.
For marines this primarily means medspam is less powerful, and welders are more powerful, even for LAs. An LA with no upgrades backed by a welder takes 4 bites to kill, even with no meds.
I'm not really sure how much this effects aliens, since their healing abilities all effect health and armor equally.
How much does HA deflect??
Focus though im not sure wat it has to do with the word SENSORY. If anyone can clear this up wit ha change of the meaning in the dictionary pls explain <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
But after playing combat, i still want my spikies back as well as bite, although primal cream may be ok, its hardly used and should be dumped. Id really like the old lerk Bite>Spike>Umbra>Super Spore (sed so coz it was hooge and damaging thru walls too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) This would especially rock with the new flying physics for lerk
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the alien gets a rush in change of brain chemistry and is hyperactive, thus keenly and extremely aware of and in touch with his senses, and his brain can compute quickly and decisively the way to disembowel his target
I've felt this way before.. I think you have to be rather energetic and active or drugged to know what it's like
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I have no idea what Flaya thought sensory had to do with focus but perhaps it allows aliens to detect vulnerable points?
Makes more sense now?
It'd make the lerk the swiss army knife of the kharaa... Being able to get in close and bite for massive damage, back off and peck away with a low dmg, low risk spike, perform area denial, and make it's buddies stronger...
The new flight system pwns btw... It's ridiculously easy to bite marines midflight now, even JPs don't stand a chance...
SoF pretty much took its place.
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Take it's place in the upgrades menu... not it's functionality...
Focus is surprisingly powerful atm when combined with cloaking (NS:C obviously)... You're just walking along as a vanilla then BANG, you're dead, and your teammates are pooping themselves because they can't see WTH just killed you... I've never loved HA so much before...
SoF allows you to see all the enemies in let's say 20 meters.
Focus is pretty much a focused strong bite.
SoF allows you to see all the enemies in let's say 20 meters.
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Cloaking is really powerful right now, I've seen people leap, blink, and fly while cloaked. This is a bug, and not a feature tho. Hopefully it will be toned down, cloaked aliens are a real pain to kill.
Focus at lv. 3 makes your slot1 attacks twice as strong, but half as fast. It may sound like a downgrade, but it's actually the alien equivilent of the shotgun... and tell me, is the shotgun bad? Killing marines in one hit is never bad. Focus is my favorite upgrade right now.
And babblers WERE stupid. If you didn't give them any targets, they would kill each other or attack you. I got killed by them on several accounts.
They were fun tho, I used to take on a heavie or two with gorges. Web + Babblers = Win.