Registering To Constellation, Please Add Share-it

BalanceBalance Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11457Members
<div class="IPBDescription">to help young people in Europe</div> I want to join in Constellation, but it is very difficult because <b>I don't have a credit card</b>.

<b>Please add Share-It as a payment option.</b>

This is very common phrase for youngsters in Europe. I live in Europe too. Anyway my point is that most of europeian people do not live for credit, they pay bills and try to avoid unneccessary payments like too high intrest rates and so on.

So I tried to join constellation (once again), but failed since it seemed way too difficult to join trough Pay Pal. Why?
<ul>
<li>young people can't have credit cards
<li>people without steady income can't have credit card
</ul>
But young people can make bank transfers!

To support good development team I did pay lifetime ASE licence trough Share-It.

<b>I hope I can pay Constellation membership</b> too. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

I just want to know if development team could add new payment option, please?
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  • FieariFieari Join Date: 2002-10-22 Member: 1566Members, Constellation
    Debit cards work as well as credit cards, you know...
  • antifreezeantifreeze The guy with the goods&#33; Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16232Members, Constellation
    i use a debit card and im 17. But debit cars in the uk can be given to kids as young as 8 i think. Paypal does accept debit cards, otherwise i wouldn't have been able to make a payment.
  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    Get your folks to pay, and just give them the money back.
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--C0BRA1450+Nov 1 2003, 02:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (C0BRA1450 @ Nov 1 2003, 02:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get your folks to pay, and just give them the money back. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right, like everyones parents will think giving away money to a game is a good way to spend your money... lol. Ofcourse we all know its good, I just find it hard that too many parents would want their kids to give away their money to a development team.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    get a debit card, im 15 and i have one
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    If your credit is so bad you can't have a credit card, donating to a game should be the LAST priority...
  • SuBSuB AusNS Forum Admin Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13723Members
    It sounds like it could be very beneficial to the dev team to offer a new payment option.

    There seem to be a lot of people who want to contribute but can't because of their difficulties with PayPal.
  • BalanceBalance Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 1 2003, 11:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 1 2003, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If your credit is so bad you can't have a credit card, donating to a game should be the LAST priority...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perhaps the issue is to be rich enough and live without credit.

    I just hate idea of paying someone (visa) for nothing. All they give me is more expenses.
    You know it isn't free to own a credit card. It has monthly or annual fees.
    My bank card doesn't cost anything. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Let me put it in figures:
    If I'd get a Visa with 1000? credit. I have to pay for that 2.5% each year to have visa.
    So I'd pay 25? for nothing. I'd rather donate that to Constellation than to Visa company. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HAMBoneHAMBone Probably the best Commander Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15139Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Just for the record, you should not be charged anything at all as long as you pay off your balance each month.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    edited November 2003
    hoold it... you mean I can still use PayPal even if they say it cant be used by minors? Like they don't check it? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    /me goes register @ paypal


    edit: hmm nope, my debit card isn't accepted. Gogo french cards :o
  • BalanceBalance Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--HAMBONE+Nov 1 2003, 12:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HAMBONE @ Nov 1 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just for the record, you should not be charged anything at all as long as you pay off your balance each month. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe it is just finnish system, paying that 2.5% annual fee.

    I don't have visa, but few friends of mine do (at the work).
    And with big credit limits annual fee is quite high.
  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 1 2003, 08:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 1 2003, 08:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If your credit is so bad you can't have a credit card, donating to a game should be the LAST priority... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't get any credit cards, bank accounts, etc. because the house we moved into about a year ago was blacklisted. FUN!
  • twofoldtwofold Join Date: 2003-10-28 Member: 22079Members
    Debit cards in the uk are for 14+...solo at 14 and 16 for switch (providing you earn over £300 per month).

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If your credit is so bad you can't have a credit card, donating to a game should be the LAST priority... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    One word to say to that...pathetic. That is such a low blow to a person...If you would have read the original post you would have seen that he was too young. Its pretty insulting to tell someone how to run their own lives you know..

    As for the cards, I don't know how it works elsewhere...but cards in the uk sometimes do have annual fees, but other times don't. As well as an interest free period..so you can use it and not be charged anything...fuun fun fun.
  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    I am 16 and registered with PayPal fine. There are no age limits on PayPal afaik, all you are limited with is if you can get a card. Any Switch/Solo/Maestro debit card works fine, and the chances are you can ask your bank for one at any sensible age.
  • EnemyWithinEnemyWithin Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5572Members
    edited November 2003
    Paypal is the devil.

    <a href='http://www.nopaypal.com' target='_blank'>http://www.nopaypal.com</a>

    Read the forums and be afraid...very afraid. I really hope that Flayra takes all the money out of his Constellation account every day and also leaves the bank account that it is tied to empty.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    That's just stupid. PayPal is perfectly fine.
  • itsmemoitsmemo Join Date: 2003-07-17 Member: 18232Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    I want to register for constellation even though 2.1 is ocmig out tonight.

    Can someone tell me the minimun I have to pay in canadian dollars. I dont want my parents to go crazy

    btw after I pay through paypal, do I send an email right after?
  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    You could always send a cheque through the post. Go go gadget snail mail.
  • WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--zerg_queen+Nov 1 2003, 08:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zerg_queen @ Nov 1 2003, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I want to register for constellation even though 2.1 is ocmig out tonight. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    2.1 is not coming out tonight.
  • itsmemoitsmemo Join Date: 2003-07-17 Member: 18232Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We were hoping to release NS v2.1 to the public tonight, to mark this special occasion, but it's not ready yet.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    well <b>Maybe</b>
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Trust me, you don't want it now. Just wait until it's ready, best way to avoid the "omg teh bugs olol balance issues" threads.
  • EnemyWithinEnemyWithin Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5572Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Nov 1 2003, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Nov 1 2003, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's just stupid. PayPal is perfectly fine. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Really? And you know this because you have never had a problem with them yourself? If you read the forums, you will quickly see that most people felt the same as you <b>until</b> they got burned.

    For example:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Jenny,

    Like you, I once believed in Pay Pal. What a great concept. Then I found this site (paypalsucks.com) and read dozens of posts and said to myself, "Ah - that will never happen to me." Then one day, it did. I still have no idea why - but it did.

    Some of us just have to make mistakes on our own before we learn. I respect your decision to raise your own kids. For their sake, make sure you have a backup plan... Just in case. And always be prepared to lose whatever money you have "on loan" to Pay Pal. My best advice: transfer daily.

    Steve<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Don't assume that just because you haven't had problems yet, that you won't have them eventually. Live in ignorance if you like, it's not my money you are gambling with.
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    edited November 2003
    I would also like to join Constellation... but I live in Europe I don't have credit card and don't wanna use paypal. So what can I do?

    No my parents surely don't wanna transfer money to US.

    And just for interest. Whats a debit card? I don't know it. Is it Visa or what?
  • FieariFieari Join Date: 2002-10-22 Member: 1566Members, Constellation
    A debit card, recieved from your bank, will ostensibly be a visa or mastercard or whatever, and can be used like one, with one difference. Instead of being billed for the amouunt you spend, the amount is DIRECTLY taken out of your account. It's spending money you have, not spending money you will have.

    It works exactly like a credit card in every other way though. Swipe it through the scanner at stores, or type in the number on the front (and back) online.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    a debit card is like a credit card, but instead of spening someone else's money, you spend your own.

    Paypal does accept visa Electron, and you can get an electron card from about 14 16 i think (in the uk at least)
  • NeoMatrixj2NeoMatrixj2 Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9638Members
    Flayra Takes Payments via hand written mail aka money order or check.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To become a Constellation member, you need to donate $20 U.S. currency (or equivalent in another currency) or more to the NS team, either through Paypal or through postal mail.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Email constellation@natural-selection.org for an address to mail to. When you mail your check/money order include your email and steamid on the memo line, along with your real name printed out somewheres. You could even put it on a seperate peice of paper. Just a note that a check or money order takes a few days so it could take up to 6 days to a week for it to mail and then clear.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--twofold+Nov 1 2003, 06:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (twofold @ Nov 1 2003, 06:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Debit cards in the uk are for 14+...solo at 14 and 16 for switch (providing you earn over £300 per month).

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If your credit is so bad you can't have a credit card, donating to a game should be the LAST priority... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    One word to say to that...pathetic. That is such a low blow to a person...If you would have read the original post you would have seen that he was too young. Its pretty insulting to tell someone how to run their own lives you know..

    As for the cards, I don't know how it works elsewhere...but cards in the uk sometimes do have annual fees, but other times don't. As well as an interest free period..so you can use it and not be charged anything...fuun fun fun. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do you just makenoise like your opinion matters? Look what he said:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->people without steady income can't have credit card<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I assumed this meant that he can't make enough money to pay off a credit card.

    Meaning his credit rating sucks.

    Meaning he's spendng more then he has.

    In which case, why on EARTH would he consider donationg $20 a priority?


    Gee I'm sorry I took an economics class, and I'm sorry I assumed that by lacking a steady income he meant he couldn't afford the credit card.
  • kallethkalleth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2574Members
    uranium:
    let me clear a few things up for you.
    LEGALLY, ANY person in the United Kingdom under the age of 18 can't get credit anywhere. It's impossible. I don't know wether or not this is true for the rest of europe, but i assume it is similar.
    He states this - he actually says:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->young people can't have credit cards<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He also states that people without a steady income can't have credit cards - which is perfectly true.
    <b>He is a 'young person'. he probably doesn't have a job. this means he doesn't have a steady income.</b>
    That means he can't get a credit card. Not because he has bad credit - he probably doesn't even HAVE a credit rating at this point.
    Get your facts straight before you flame, or for gods sake, at least read through the initial post several times to make sure you understand it.
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Norml E. High+Nov 1 2003, 09:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Norml E. High @ Nov 1 2003, 09:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--C0BRA1450+Nov 1 2003, 02:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (C0BRA1450 @ Nov 1 2003, 02:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get your folks to pay, and just give them the money back. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right, like everyones parents will think giving away money to a game is a good way to spend your money... lol. Ofcourse we all know its good, I just find it hard that too many parents would want their kids to give away their money to a development team. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My parents would have let me give my money away if I really wanted todo that, and I think I would if I ever become a parent. Allowing children to spend money in the way they wish lets them to become who they want to become, for instance...

    Me and my sister were both given about £4k from our grandparents to either learn to drive or go towards uni, or whatever, it just had to be worthwhile. I decided not to learn to drive and use it for uni (i'm at university now, 5 weeks in and im bloody tired), anyway my sister (who is 15 months younger than me) has decided that she wants to use the money to learn to drive, now these decisions were affected by who we are and will affect who we become.

    There are many other examples from my younger life, but with much smaller sums of money, and while its been a battle sometimes in the end my parents have always let me do as I wish with my own money, they have still advised me with how they think I should spend it, but in the end the decision has been mine.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--kalleth+Nov 1 2003, 03:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kalleth @ Nov 1 2003, 03:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get your facts straight before you flame <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Show me ONE PLACE where I started flaming.
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