Marine Weapons Are To Underpowered
psxlr
Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18901Members
Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18901Members
Ok i just played a game where an alien onoed early. He came into our base and started to raise hell, the comm gave me a shotgun i managed to get 2 point blank shotgun hits on him and he didnt even blink. Shotguns are really underpowered for how weak they are. A single LA with an SG or a HMG should be more than a match for an onos.
speakign of Onos the gore attack really should be downed, it can kill an HA at the top of the marine Tech Pool in less than 8 hits! what **** is this?
speakign of Onos the gore attack really should be downed, it can kill an HA at the top of the marine Tech Pool in less than 8 hits! what **** is this?
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1) Did you have upgrades?
2) Was this on voogru?
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Obviously you haven't been playing enough NS because you would see how easily an HMG tears up lvl 1 onos. Either you had no upgrades or just weren't hitting him because marine weapons are VERY powerfull especially when lvled up.
As for the gore attack it's a 100 res creature smacking a 30 res creature.
I'm...lost for words. Seriously.
Lambda: Post count means diddly squat.
if it was a 1 hive with upgrades thats +30 res = 130
if it was a 2 hive with 1 upgrade thats + 70 = 170
if it was a 2 hive with 2 upgrades thats + 100 = 200
if it was... well, you get the idea. And HA only costs 15 res, I gave it an HMG (+15) to make you feel better <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
urm ok let me try and be constructive:
to the thread started: if a 10res shotgunner was more then a match for a 100res onos how would the game be balanced? sure it might be fun for you blasting away like you would in any normal single player FPS.. but you've got to consider that it wouldnt be much fun for the aliens would it? besides which, marines thrive on teamwork.. if you had been blasting away with the help of the rest of your team prehaps you might have killed it (because I can guarentee getting hit by 100% of 2sg shots isnt going to kill an onos by itself)
Clearly you don't think this game should be a contest between two teams but rather a slaughterfest of marines wiping aliens off the walls.
LA w/ Shotgun: 10 res unit, 15 res technology investment (armory)
Onos (say 2 Hives, most common): 104 res unit, 100 res technology investment (Hive + 6 Chambers)
If you think a LA w/ SG should beat an Onos, you have no grasp of the concept of balance.
As for Onos vs HA w/ HMG...the Onos is still far more money per unit, but the HA HMG requires more technology investment. So it's not unreasonable that the Onos has an advantage...but remember that the time required to get those 8 hits in is about the same time required for a single HMG to kill an Onos. Machine guns fire far more rapidly than alien weapons, remember.
About this topic that is.
This HAS to be a joke
I just thought of something.
If that was a match for an onos, what would a HA HMG match?
100 lvl0 lmg bullets kill a level 3 carpaced onos.
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voogru doesn't have anything that modifies gameplay atm except for the Med Armory.
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Hehe. Im a marine player, and all for better marine weapons, but this is a little to much. One shotgun on an LA marine shouldnt have the power to down an onos, that wouldnt be very fair.
... and 8 hits is alot. Try goring a heavy 8 times with an HMG in your face... actually make that three or five HMGs in your face, because marines usually travel in packs (at least smart ones do.)
Of course since the hitbox is so small and you need to play really really long to get an idea of where it is,you do not see 2 guys pasting onos with level 0 lmgs.
2 upgraded marines pwn onos
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however!
Thats whats supposed to happen right?
Also, two shotgun shots SHOULDNT kill a top-of-the-line alien, especially in close combat, where it is supposed to be Alien domination.
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