<!--QuoteBegin--Aka'lamanaia+Oct 28 2003, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aka'lamanaia @ Oct 28 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If ya cant kill Onos with Shotgun when i can kill Onos with LMG alone if i get +1 ammo pack after used one clip and get clear shots, your rambo. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I always hear people say stuff like that, but i have never seen anyone pull it off, maybe i'm just a uber 733t ono or something but i have NEVER died as ono before taking out 2-3 marines, unless i got stuck or had to run down a LONG hall way with like 5 marines on the other end(witch i'd never do i'd turn back)
well i have made an onos redeem with only my lmg, a bit of luck and the trusty knife i actually did it twice yesterday with lvl3 weapons <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
well i was la and an onos tried to devour me, he missed, i crouched filled him with lead and then slicing him to bit wihte i was under him i basically almost killed an onos by myself
and i am used as playing aliens so i used the same strategies i use as alien get as close and cricle them
Also im a Alien Player, and i seen Aliens win 1 from 20. in the 19 other cases theres that regular JP and HMG and Welder and Siege Whoring. So that shows how "underpowered" marine weapons are. They didnt have weapons upgrades about 6 times of the 19.
a_civilianLikes seeing numbersJoin Date: 2003-01-08Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
<!--QuoteBegin--Eidolan+Oct 28 2003, 01:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eidolan @ Oct 28 2003, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dose't lvl3 shoty do 160 damage per hit if you get all 16 shot on target? I whould't call that under powered. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No; the level 0 shotgun deals 170 damage if all pellets hit, and the level 3 shotgun deals 220.
And I suppose you're the one to judge that? The discussion is over though, point has been made, and explained, and duly noted. Now go talk in the other threads about on-topic stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Obviously you haven't been playing enough NS because you would see how easily an HMG tears up lvl 1 onos. Either you had no upgrades or just weren't hitting him because marine weapons are VERY powerfull especially when lvled up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol, judging people by postcount, AND assuming postcount reflects play time. Ignore this fellas post.
I suggest replacing the onos model with the gordon model from your valve/models/player directory, play like that for a week, then change it back, now u can kill onos alone, with lmg - pistol - and a few knife hits (unless they are carapaced that is)
73 LMG to kill basic onos - 730 damage
50 in the clip - 500 damage
+
10 pistol - 200 damage
+
a few knife - 30 damage each
right now i cand be bothered working it out exactly
<!--QuoteBegin--Big Chief Brown Bottom+Oct 28 2003, 09:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Big Chief Brown Bottom @ Oct 28 2003, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> marine weapons are so overpowered its not even funny. the real reason marines are losing is because the idiots controlling the marines are morons <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You mean the real reason marines are losing because the idiots playing the marines won't follow orders?
.....I beg to differ.....sometimes the marines are the ones who are idiots....ive seen times when a full ha/hmg train with 3/3 and MT gets owned by skulks without 3rd hive.....
And by the way,you most likely didnt hit the onos with the shotty properly,due to the hitbox fux0r.
Obviously you haven't been playing enough NS because you would see how easily an HMG tears up lvl 1 onos. Either you had no upgrades or just weren't hitting him because marine weapons are VERY powerfull especially when lvled up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll contest that dude. I've been playing NS since 1.04 and lurking on these forums and haven't made a single post until fairly recently, but yeah, I agree with you otherwise.
I really think that all the weapons will/(or better) should be redone in the next patch. I don't know if this will happen but it's kinda pointless to whine about underpowered weapons when the patch will change a lot in the game (especially the weapondmg.)
<!--QuoteBegin--Tyrain+Oct 28 2003, 09:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tyrain @ Oct 28 2003, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really think that all the weapons will/(or better) should be redone in the next patch. I don't know if this will happen but it's kinda pointless to whine about underpowered weapons when the patch will change a lot in the game (especially the weapondmg.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, uhh... to be fair, if individuals didn't point out any damage problems with weapons, then there wouldn't be anything to be fixed in the next patch, right?
Granted, we're pretty far after the "testing" phase for 2.0, aren't we?
<!--QuoteBegin--J3k+Oct 28 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J3k @ Oct 28 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if u think that marine weaps r underpowerd then u probably have no aim <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Could also be some people fooling with a CERTAIN command that makes you take godlike damage to be killed.
Comments
I always hear people say stuff like that, but i have never seen anyone pull it off, maybe i'm just a uber 733t ono or something but i have NEVER died as ono before taking out 2-3 marines, unless i got stuck or had to run down a LONG hall way with like 5 marines on the other end(witch i'd never do i'd turn back)
i actually did it twice yesterday with lvl3 weapons <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
well i was la and an onos tried to devour me, he missed, i crouched filled him with lead and then slicing him to bit wihte i was under him
i basically almost killed an onos by myself
and i am used as playing aliens so i used the same strategies i use as alien get as close and cricle them
No; the level 0 shotgun deals 170 damage if all pellets hit, and the level 3 shotgun deals 220.
and why cant the knife be upgraded? I mean, like from the boyscout-kife, to a big machete and then to a katana or sumth??
knifes are great because they are silent...
big * shiny knifes...
and why cant the knife be upgraded? I mean, like from the boyscout-kife, to a big machete and then to a katana or sumth??
knifes are great because they are silent...
big * shiny knifes... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
HAHAHHAAHH Katana
Man, I'm thinking of throwing that in my sig
The discussion is over though, point has been made, and explained, and duly noted. Now go talk in the other threads about on-topic stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Posts: 29<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obviously you haven't been playing enough NS because you would see how easily an HMG tears up lvl 1 onos. Either you had no upgrades or just weren't hitting him because marine weapons are VERY powerfull especially when lvled up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, judging people by postcount, AND assuming postcount reflects play time. Ignore this fellas post.
73 LMG to kill basic onos - 730 damage
50 in the clip - 500 damage
+
10 pistol - 200 damage
+
a few knife - 30 damage each
right now i cand be bothered working it out exactly
You mean the real reason marines are losing because the idiots playing the marines won't follow orders?
Or maybe both at the same time?
And by the way,you most likely didnt hit the onos with the shotty properly,due to the hitbox fux0r.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Posts: 29<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obviously you haven't been playing enough NS because you would see how easily an HMG tears up lvl 1 onos. Either you had no upgrades or just weren't hitting him because marine weapons are VERY powerfull especially when lvled up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll contest that dude. I've been playing NS since 1.04 and lurking on these forums and haven't made a single post until fairly recently, but yeah, I agree with you otherwise.
Well, uhh... to be fair, if individuals didn't point out any damage problems with weapons, then there wouldn't be anything to be fixed in the next patch, right?
Granted, we're pretty far after the "testing" phase for 2.0, aren't we?
Could also be some people fooling with a CERTAIN command that makes you take godlike damage to be killed.
<span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span>