To All You Know It All Pubbers
SiDSquishy
Join Date: 2003-10-15 Member: 21704Members
Join Date: 2003-10-15 Member: 21704Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Why don't you........</div> Im the guy with the gun your the guy with the..... well without the gun
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Look the ns clan scene is dying there just arn't enough clans. And yet every time I join a pub at least half the server thinks they know everything there is to know about the game and tells me why whatever I say is wrong. So why don't you pubbers out there who think you know something get togethor and make some clans to truly get the whole ns experience. Ns is a teamwork game and you havn't really experienced it unless you've played a match with flawless teamwork. If a new team forms and wants help or advice they can contact me on irc at #damagenet I gurantee you i'll help your clan out. My names generally Blue in there. And of course if you would like to come play us our door is always open to challengers. We'll try not to enclose your hive in a wall of comchairs, seriously that one time was an accident. I know some people will **** about me being "elitist" or some **** but you truly have no idea how to play ns until you play in a clanmatch and have your **** handed to you acouple times. Prefferably by me. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Look the ns clan scene is dying there just arn't enough clans. And yet every time I join a pub at least half the server thinks they know everything there is to know about the game and tells me why whatever I say is wrong. So why don't you pubbers out there who think you know something get togethor and make some clans to truly get the whole ns experience. Ns is a teamwork game and you havn't really experienced it unless you've played a match with flawless teamwork. If a new team forms and wants help or advice they can contact me on irc at #damagenet I gurantee you i'll help your clan out. My names generally Blue in there. And of course if you would like to come play us our door is always open to challengers. We'll try not to enclose your hive in a wall of comchairs, seriously that one time was an accident. I know some people will **** about me being "elitist" or some **** but you truly have no idea how to play ns until you play in a clanmatch and have your **** handed to you acouple times. Prefferably by me. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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A) Don't care that much to invest the time.
B) Don't HAVE the time.
C) Don't give a damn one way or the other.
Second, my standards of clans are too high, well they at least need a website don't they...
Third, The existing clans have too many people in them for me to join, i would just be a statistic and no one would know me.
Forth, I might join a clan if a big one branched off so it didn't have as many members..HINT HINT branch off you big clans. BECOME FRANCHISES LIKE MACDONALDS!!!
I just really feel alot of people have this myth about clans sucking up their entire life and cutting them the second they don't show up to a 5 am practice.
#nsdraft on gamesnet if you want to get started with a clan.
There's this weird myth that if you're good you belong in a clan, well I'll tell you right now people don't 'belong' anywhere <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I've been through the clan thing and left the clan thing. NS is good with great teamwork but good teamwork comes with good players so you don't need clans, just regulars =3
When I say good players I don't mean they have to be ace shots or be able to kill 20000 marines with a skulk; just someone with a nice attitude who knows roughly what they're doing and where they're going.
Just because they don't stick a stupid clan tag infront of their name doesn't mean they don't know more than you or couldn't whack you from one side of the level to other without trying ^~
oh and Ziggy, thanks for your well thought out and helpful post. I'd almost forgotten about those horizontal scroll bars.
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I've been through the clan thing and left the clan thing. NS is good with great teamwork but good teamwork comes with good players so you don't need clans, just regulars =3
When I say good players I don't mean they have to be ace shots or be able to kill 20000 marines with a skulk; just someone with a nice attitude who knows roughly what they're doing and where they're going.
Just because they don't stick a stupid clan tag infront of their name doesn't mean they don't know more than you or couldn't whack you from one side of the level to other without trying ^~<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ditto. just for fun.
besides even if i would wanna join a clan the timedifference is too BIG and i only have a couple of hours free a day. (2 in the afternoon, 2 in the evening)
There's not many people who'd make that kind of commitment, you know? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Usually, I join clans if they have a good server or a good site, but never be afraid to ask anyone to join your clan; you never know when people are desparate to find some competitive play.
Umm. I did a couple issues of my school magazine once? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm not the Games Workshop guy either, hehe <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm just little old me!
oh and Ziggy, thanks for your well thought out and helpful post. I'd almost forgotten about those horizontal scroll bars. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well I thought Id go off on a tangant instead of going off on one :/
We would still have to be competitive though. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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I suppose you actually think you and your group of random pubbers (or regulars, whatever), could beat syn? or dn? good luck. Find clanless players, totally clanless, and get 6 of them, and challenge one of these clans. I wanna see the outcome.
sYn was #1 for a very long time, dont take my word for it, take Flayra's, after all he said we were the team to beat in his radio interview.
Congrats on being in the highest ranking clan and all that fire but lets just put it this way; the minute you claimed or hinted to be the best is the minute you removed any possibility of it being the truth from my mind <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
No really, sYn was the best. As he says, you needn't take his word for it - you can take Flayra's or mine or any of a number of other people. sYn once played what was acknowledged to be the top European clan in 1.03 and got the 4-0 win, two halves on an American server and two halves on a European server.
For all the folks going "I don't have the time" and so on - well, fair enough.
But for the people that have the time and say you'd rather play with regs... Why not just... get those regs together and do a few scrims? Have pre-assigned rules, work out a strategy for the map. It seems obvious to me that when you're playing with a plan, you'll have better teamwork. I'm "alien commander" for [GoM] - what I say gets done. That situation isn't even possible on a pub. And I like pubbing, I do it all the time. But NS is a teamplay mod, and you'll get the most coordinated teamplay in a clan. If you've never tried it, it seems worth it to me to get a bunch of people you're friends with and play together.
squishy is never comming again
And theres the problem, people are ****-clowns.
I'm not the first guy to find a clan when I play a game, I find myself being very fortunate to be an individual. Whats weird is that the shooter community is full of people that aren't individuals, they latch on to each other for support. I breach a very delicate subject here, there are people that naturally need human contact those that don't require it but can deal with lonelyness from time to time and those that are alone in life, and have somehow accepted their classification. If your not a friendly person and you have lots of talent often times you are never involved in a clan but would like to be. This is a dilemma because as people we must interact in the game and out. Being friendly and interesting usually gets you in a clan fairly simply, talent can always be developed and discovered some people think.
I seem to have lost my train of thought between here and IRC but... as far as the time issue goes, I personally know this best. My story; I recently got an invite to a fairly new but respected clan, got to playing and recovering some of my motivation(I had been somewhat inactive and lazy lately, because pubbing(especially on HAMptons)got shrewd and uncaring.)I don't think there was a question of talent because of the leader of the clan approaches me and basically fires me because I "wasn't on all day" as he put it. People expect you to fill in around their schedule, they don't care that you have a life and are busy. So long as you formulate to them, you support them, you cherish them. Clans really work when you have an understanding and compensating leader, or co-leaders. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't most of you neglect clanning because you have problems with [certain] people?
I love what Geminosity said about having fun, and I totally agree. I only play the game to have fun! I also would like to think that its a recurring theme for other people as well. I came from CS but I quit because it wasn't fun any longer, and it wasn't fun any longer because the level of clan play I was on accepted only perfection and stability from its users. You couldn't live with a mistake if you made one. You had to follow the routine strategy and style no matter what. You were depended upon if you were good enough and represented your entire clan. In this way, fun was discouraged for me. Scrimmaging and clan matches no longer were fun, so my ability and concentration diminished and I was dropped or left of my choosing. I've had this problem for all my gaming career. StarCraft, Age of Empires, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Return to Castle Wolfenstein and all the rest.. its sad to lose the element of enjoyment in something you enjoy doing. I wonder if anyone else has this problem?
Clans have a lot to offer, friends, relationships and life skills. Its not a bad thing. You can also grab some respect when people see a respected and recognized gaming tag, sometimes they will or won't call you a "hacker" when you do something crazy all because of that symbol.
Theres a lot of responsibility to a clan, and through experience I know people don't expect, want, or enjoy sole responsibility. And of course there are exceptions. Committment, dedication and responsiblity make a good clan.
I also agree that clans are one way to experience a game to its fullest. So don't knock it till you've reached it. Yet I still think that NS has been dying since v2.0 and its release, I want my 1.04 back, thats just me. Clans are a big aspect of any game and I only attacked some minor issues of it. I hope it may be part of the deciding factor in your reasoning of the subject.
I have no clue. I only work 25-30 hours a week though, so maybe I <b>WOULD</b> have time. I've just never been interested enough in forming or joining up on a group with my own meager resources.
However, with the pub scene declining in numbers, I may have little choice but to get my jollies in organized scrims, pugs, or whatever. It's not that I want to, it's just that it might be a necesity. Which sucks, because at heart, I'm chronically lazy about my hobbies. The least I have to do to still have fun, I usually do. Maybe having a tag in front of my name would make me work harder, maybe not.
I don't know where I'm going with this. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Ramble ramble ramble.