Golden Middle

2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
edited September 2003 in Discussions
<div class="IPBDescription">How do you people find it?</div> I am wondering, where is the golden middle of things, how do you people find it. This could all be graphed and found that way, but what about non-numerical things?
For numerical example:
Car A starts travelling from Point A. The closer it gets to Point B, the cheaper the gas is. At one point, the car will halt because there is no more gas. When to fuel up?
For non-numerical example:
Lots (hours) of homework given to Student A. His friends invite him to a party. Does Student A do all the homework and be called geeky next day, or does he go to the party and get yelled at by the teacher the next day?
Please post your opinion on this.
Thanks.

Comments

  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    With the car example - Keep going until you have about 1/4 of a tank left, then refuel.

    With the student example - Do the homework. You will be called a geek or whatever, but who gives a crap what people think? They'll forget about it in a week. That homework you did, and the grades you get, will help you throughout your life.
  • RatRat Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11486Members
    as far as gas -- know your gas mileage very well. if in an area you know, push it as far as you reasonably can, then fill up.

    as far as homework -- in high school, i was the one who didn't have to work to get **** done and make As, so i ended up goin to the parties. in college now, i can still make good grades, but i'm paying money for my GPA, not my BAC....
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    Heh. I didn't ask about how you would behave in those given situations, I wanted to know how you *find* the golden middle of things, not on examples, but ... theoretically/symbollicaly?
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I don't get it. Golden Middle is an expression I've never heard. Could you clarify what you're trying to say?
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    From the computer science standpoint, everything is numeric. A yes/no answer is a 1/0 answer.

    So you could answer both questions with a number (since machines only know numbers).

    I think I am with fluffy on this one. What is golden middle exactly?
  • CrisqoCrisqo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11625Members
    Guys, GUYS, it's obvious this "golden middle" he is talking about is the middle of a Pillsbury biscuit. I usually use a knife to get to the middle, then I spread jam in it.
  • TorgoTorgo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11626Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Crisqo+Oct 1 2003, 06:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crisqo @ Oct 1 2003, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Guys, GUYS, it's obvious this "golden middle" he is talking about is the middle of a Pillsbury biscuit. I usually use a knife to get to the middle, then I spread jam in it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, Pillsbury biscuits are so light and deliciously flakey that you don't need the aid of a knife to retrieve its magical golden innards. The layers should peel off very easily if they've been baked correctly.
  • CrouchingHamsterCrouchingHamster Join Date: 2002-08-17 Member: 1181Members
    edited October 2003
    [OT]

    Never heard of a "Golden Middle", but I have heard off a "Golden Section", it's a renaissance concept where they thought art could be explained as maths and there was an ideal set of mathematical proportions that all "great art" would reference..
    /shrugs

    [/OT]

    Edit: I believe a few Boticellis and that famous Michelangelo anatomy sketch that you <i>have</i> seen are textbook examples of the theory. but I remain to be convinced..
  • KherasKheras Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7869Members
    edited October 2003
    Don't slack off in college. The higher your GPA the better shot you have at landing a better job, which is the purpose of a college education to begin with. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Of course, a 2.8 with a knowledge of what the heck they're doing is better off than a 4.0 who is just good at taking tests. But below 3.0 it's hard, and below around 2.8 it's freakin' difficult. Especially in the tech market nowadays.

    Oh, and the happy medium is you drink enough to get buzzed and still do the work later. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CrouchingHamsterCrouchingHamster Join Date: 2002-08-17 Member: 1181Members
    edited October 2003
    Indeed.

    Study hard in college chaps, you'll have many years to **** around afterwards..

    Seriously, while it can be great at the time, women, beer and pool will all still exist once you graduate with an excellent degree in a subject you love....
  • EvisceratorEviscerator Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13946Members, Constellation
    Aside from the biscuit theory, the golden middle needs to be attained mathematically. You can't quantitate things without some numbers to back them up. After all, how would you ever know if spending an hour sitting on your butt in front of the TV isn't actually better for you in the long haul than spending that hour doing homework? What is the desired end result? Happiness? Career growth? Knowledge? Analyzing non-numerical examples to a precision such as would be required for a golden middle is just not possible.

    If you're looking for suggestions as to the dilemmas the real-world presents to us, I have learned (the hard way) over time that there is one simple, incredibly easy answer: stop analyzing everything and just let it go. Life is too short and far too unpredictable. Carpe diem. Have fun along the way, and just stay out of trouble. That isn't to say you should drop out of college and become an alcoholic, but don't stress out about the small stuff. It's not worth the effort, trust me.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    golden middle is unfamiliar term to me aswell, i know of the golden spyral, from some film...

    when you said numerically, are you talking about halfing things (middle)? ie. 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8...; never gets to two ?
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    I'm lost.... and high

    So let me sing you a line

    So you outta take my picture
    because I won't remember
  • CrouchingHamsterCrouchingHamster Join Date: 2002-08-17 Member: 1181Members
    edited October 2003
    Oh, and re Xzillen's sig,

    Alice in Chains are sooooo not the best band ever, but they are top 10 easily.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Saw them at Barrowlands, Glasgow, absolutely fluffing rocked.

    RIP Staley.

    ( Edit: should you find yerself on holiday or summat, Barras is a fabulous venue. Small enough to have atmosphere, big enough to be noisy, bar = 20m from centre of crowd, lovely.

    Seriously , lovely venue, you can kill the time till it starts by buying "trial versions" of "things" at barraz market..:/

    Christ knows who decided to put the toilets a mile away from the stage though..:/ )
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    well i know the term "golden middle", well i know a danish term "den gyldne middelvej"(The golden middleway). and i guess that is the term he means.

    explaination:
    its basically where you have to find a balance between two decisions or things. example:
    wether to do all your homework or go to all the parties. then the golden middleway is a balanced option with both included.

    i hope this cleared things up.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    Dirty Harry Potter has explained it very well. So with that explanation, you could finally answer my question <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CrisqoCrisqo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11625Members
    ..That wasn't the answer? ...I see... I though everyone was answering it when they were saying "Don't go to extremes."

    Well in Buddhism there is this thing called the eight fold path, and everyone must choose the middle way. However, it's not the <b>golden</b> middle way...Maybe if you practice Buddhism and eat Lucky Charms while doing it, this can be achieved?
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    A is simple, jsut go until you're running on fumes then fill up.

    B, however, is not a numerical situation, you can't evalutate that mathematically, it all depends on personal priorities.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Oct 4 2003, 03:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Oct 4 2003, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> B, however, is not a numerical situation, you can't evalutate that mathematically, it all depends on personal priorities. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is pretty much the problem - when you can't evaluate something mathematically, you have to start thinking (oh the irony).
    If you don't go to the extremes, you have to find the middle between the middle and the extreme.
    *hold for thinking*
    Ouch.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    You can't find the golden middle in everything though.

    I mean, how do you find the golden middle in the question "Should I eat this piece of rare meat or not?"

    The answer is either yes or no. You can't eat half the meat and get a mixture of results. You get sick or you don't get sick. Simple as that.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    That's one example of choices only to the extremes. Eh?
  • HandmanHandman Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15224Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->golden middle is unfamiliar term to me aswell, i know of the golden spyral, from some film...
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I believe the movie was Pi. Never heard of the Golden middle, but I have heard of the Golden Rectangle which is found in are and buildings everywhere. From what I derive from the post, the Golden Middle is the perfect choice that meets both needs equally. There is no real equation for this, as it can very from person to person. It is something that you need to figure out yourself, as my goldem middle could be different than yours.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Handman+Oct 10 2003, 07:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Handman @ Oct 10 2003, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> golde<b>m</b> middle could be different than yours. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes it is, and the purpose of this thread was to find out yours.
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