Widow
Zazi
Join Date: 2002-05-26 Member: 672Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
Join Date: 2002-05-26 Member: 672Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Yes, it's that time again.</div> <img src='http://pcllca.net/kermes/ns_widow0009.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
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And this one showing comments made to Coil's appearance in Widow during a playtest:
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And this one showing comments made to Coil's appearance in Widow during a playtest:
<img src='http://pcllca.net/kermes/ns_widow0005.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Comments
Bob Dole likes screenshots.
Hey, you don't mess with Perfection man.
Great Job.
~ DarkATi
To be honest, it's really hard to pick apart a map from the pictures. Things that I'd look for like overall in game lighting, contrast, transitions between areas, etc, can't really be seen from screenshots. So I don't think you're going to get more than variations on "wow, cool map" until you release. Then you'll start to hear "Why didn't you fix X/Y/Z texture/light/ladder/hallway/vent/etc"
(And no, that's not a push for you to get the map out faster.... well ok... maybe just a little bit <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
So far, the people that have been playtesting my map like the realism of it and whatnot, but bleh. You're right about the concept, though; I am getting more constructive criticism in PTing than on the forums. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
just looks wrong
amckern
Cant say anything bad about the map right now since the screenshots looks awesome~
just looks wrong
amckern <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What? What does? I don't get it... heh.
who is this "chalupamonk" guy? Never heard of him.
Map is looking nice Zazi - better than most
omg I actually replied to your thread and now its at the top of the list.... heh.
just looks wrong
amckern <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What? What does? I don't get it... heh. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
the watter or what ever it, is is to small for the area around it, and the side ramps are to steap
amckern
just looks wrong
amckern <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What? What does? I don't get it... heh. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the watter or what ever it, is is to small for the area around it, and the side ramps are to steap
amckern <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It feels quite nice in game actually. I still don't really see where you're coming from though, even after you explained it. :x
It looks nice, and I like both your brushwork and combination of textures, but all I see are hallways. Nothing there to really excite me. Nothing there I can't wait to see how it looks in-game. Just...hallways with nice subtle changes in architecture.
<a href='http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/Map.php?UniqueID=279' target='_blank'>http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/Map.php?UniqueID=279</a>
I'm assuming those are relatively up to date screenshots (if not Zazi please correct me on that), and there is certainly more than hallways in there. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
There are more than just hallways. Maybe I should post some shots of the infested rooms...
The hallways are nicely mapped out and everything, but it doesn't offer any surprises in any way.
Take one look at these screenshots and give me an unbiased assessment of what this is: <a href='http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/Map.php?UniqueID=279' target='_blank'>http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/Map.php?UniqueID=279</a>
Well? What do you see? How would you describe it?
As I see it, it's pretty hard to say anything but "oh, looks like some sort of a spaceship or something", because the images offers nothing but a generic well-known look of just that. It's a lot of hallways, a few rooms and a few data-processing machines on the walls. But the look of the map doesn't tell a story, and it isn't spurting my imagination.
And don't tell me that there's a <i>written</i> storyline to back up the map, because storylines shouldn't just be told, they should be <b>shown</b>. In the map.
Do you see where I am trying to go with this or am I wasting my breath? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
But, joking aside, I'd personally say that widowtest0047.jpg, obsb4_20001.jpg, fluidcont0001.jpg, fluidcont0004.jpg, fluidcont0000.jpg, sectfour0004.jpg, and sectfour0002.jpg are rooms. Though I will concede the view we get of those rooms isn't remarkable from the pictures, and yes, I know that half of those pictures I listed are for the same two rooms.I would imagine there are more rooms (as we haven't seen hive rooms or anything in the pictures - or at least not that I could distinguish).
Zazi, is there any chance you could update the map page with - or post here - some pictures of some of the rooms from a vantage point that displays most of the room? Might help give us all a better idea of the atmosphere of the map.
btw. NICE map <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
me cant wait to <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> in it
Anyway, I could take other shots, but the fact of the matter is that I'm just too lazy. No matter, Widow's release date is gonna be within a few weeks, given the fact that I can reduce rspeeds in an ample amount of time.