You're one of the lucky ones frog... I was lucky enough to get a screen shot of mine downloading (yeah, it downloads at these speeds for a few seconds, then stops).
There is one point where I'd get close to the speeds I'd normally get if I was able to download this stuff the sane way.
And don't ask me why its downloading CS to play NS.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
See, what the problem is right now is that VALVe is having to update all the servers.
Despite you idiots thinking its some P2P thing, its not. If it was, it'd be illegal, because I've looked through the notes, and it doesn't say anywhere about being P2P. Ok?
It will show you ads a lot, but thats so that steam won't cost money to play. When your loading a game-ad. When your updating? Ad. Everywhere, there will be ads.
BUT!!!
There is the issue of "Will it be better?"
Well, I'm here to say, yes, it will, definately.
It may take a while, but they've gotta work out some of the bugs. Not many people got the beta, so they didn't have to worry about what would happen when the masses did. Now they do. It'll take a week, then everything will be like normal, but better.
So stop insulting VALVe, and realise this is for the best, in time.
<!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Sep 12 2003, 06:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Sep 12 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not many people got the beta, so they didn't have to worry about what would happen when the masses did. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not to say that anything in your post was wrong or "bad speculation", its just this part was screaming at me. The original release of the Beta 2 was downloaded so much in the first 30 minutes, they had to close the beta for a few weeks for whatever reason they had.
I do pray to god that either steam gets better or is just trashed.
Oh, and marine, thanks that helped it a bit. I'm getting about 20kb/s now.
Let me just restate that anyone who seriously thinks that a client that:
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play b) is buggy/slow c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead.
steam doesnt disable ASE. I opened ASE recently and it had an update on how to get it to work with steam. I do know that valve said the P2P would be the 3rd option, 1st being by HL2 SP and 2nd being buy HL2 SP, MP, and MOD support. They feel that option 3 will be the "best value" for everyone. Those that get options 1 and 2, to my understanding, wont have to pay for steam and hopefully wont have to use it.
<!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let me just restate that anyone who seriously thinks that a client that:
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play b) is buggy/slow c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Um please know what your talking about before you start making false statements.
<!--QuoteBegin--Frogg2+Sep 12 2003, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frogg2 @ Sep 12 2003, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let me just restate that anyone who seriously thinks that a client that:
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play b) is buggy/slow c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Um please know what your talking about before you start making false statements. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Please learn english. Also, didn't you just say a few pages back that steam is the first thing that allows developers to update some file in their mod? LAUGH. Please zip it.
<!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play b) is buggy/slow c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play It's the point of steam, keeps updating the game b) is buggy/slow Hell, everyone who plays HL are downloading steam, of course it'll be slow the first few days. c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE All your statments are false d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play Not true at all, have you been informed?
<!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 12 2003, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let me just restate that anyone who seriously thinks that a client that:
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play b) is buggy/slow c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
this guy is so badly getting on my nerves, is there a way to ignore people?
guys like this uttlery ignorant waste-of-flesh are convincing everyone else to hate steam based on all these fabricated and uninformed facts.
it was released hours ago. it's buggy.
if you dont want the challeng of being there since the beggining and finally getting it to work after storms of discussion and research (which brings the community closer imo), then wait your 13 year old **** on the sideline and keep using WON for the 2 or more weeks that it will be supported
OK idiot, mark my words when Steam will become pay 2 play. Just mark them. I know it sounds ridicilous but that's the way it's going to be. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the pattern Valve has created here.
<!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 12 2003, 07:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 12 2003, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OK idiot, mark my words when Steam will become pay 2 play. Just mark them. I know it sounds ridicilous but that's the way it's going to be. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the pattern Valve has created here. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You're wrong, steam will not go pay to play, they learn. (look what pay to play has done to planetside). Right now you're just assuming, with little knowledge.
Okay. You believe what you wish. Just more for me to laugh at when you eat a hat full of poop when it goes p2p. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Well I'm off to the bunk, its 3:30am. See you Mr. Brainwashed Mass <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Oh, and you are painfully wrong. The gaming industry does not learn, especially not the "one-hit-wonders" like Valve.
<!--QuoteBegin--semi-psychotic+Sep 12 2003, 03:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (semi-psychotic @ Sep 12 2003, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> These people are incredibly missing the point.
STEAM ALLOWS PATCHES TO GET TO PEOPLE QUICKLY!!! BUGS CAN BE FIXED IN DAYS INSTEAD OF MONTHS!
They're simply conspirating about anything they don't like. Sort of like politicians in congress. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> quicker? When +500k people hammers steam for the update?
<!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Sep 12 2003, 07:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Sep 12 2003, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bleh, not worth answering absentic <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I hear ya. This thread should be locked, actually all thread about steam should be locked. There's no point on posting here, it's not gonna do anything but start flame wars.
Kann nix it has not been released hours ago, it has been beta tested for month. I wonder what they've been doing, since it still appears to be buggy. Yes of course a lot of people are trying to download the updates now. But that's Valve's problem. What did they expect? They should have been prepared for that with enough mirrors. If they don't have enough mirrors they shouldn't release it. It's as simple as that. Remember the NS 2.0 release? Remember how many mirrors MonsE got for the rather small NS community? (Me being one of the mirror admins) What Valve is just doing here is far less professional than any major Mod release I have ever seen!
SinSpawnHarbinger of SufferingJoin Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8359Members
<!--QuoteBegin--[ZAPR]The Thing+Sep 13 2003, 01:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([ZAPR]The Thing @ Sep 13 2003, 01:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 12 2003, 07:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 12 2003, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OK idiot, mark my words when Steam will become pay 2 play. Just mark them. I know it sounds ridicilous but that's the way it's going to be. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the pattern Valve has created here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You're wrong, steam will not go pay to play, they learn. (look what pay to play has done to planetside). Right now you're just assuming, with little knowledge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Also for the P2P thing it depends, you can subscribe to a game/mod for like 9.99 a month. Or you can buy the game in store, depending on your choice.
I think that when TF2 comes out it will be a P2P option, also it will be a seperate game which does not come as an add-on for HL2, you will have to buy TF2 seperate or via P2P...but thats just my speculation/knowledge
My upload bandwidth is tiny and precious, like a flower that only blooms at BRI speed. I'm not going to let valve synergize me out of my connection idle time. I even have a *gasp* <i>legitimate copy</i> of half life, and this repulses me from using it.
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There is one point where I'd get close to the speeds I'd normally get if I was able to download this stuff the sane way.
And don't ask me why its downloading CS to play NS.
I think the damn thing stalls, and if it does - ie no updating for over 10 min, then just restart your comp.
Despite you idiots thinking its some P2P thing, its not. If it was, it'd be illegal, because I've looked through the notes, and it doesn't say anywhere about being P2P. Ok?
It will show you ads a lot, but thats so that steam won't cost money to play. When your loading a game-ad. When your updating? Ad. Everywhere, there will be ads.
BUT!!!
There is the issue of "Will it be better?"
Well, I'm here to say, yes, it will, definately.
It may take a while, but they've gotta work out some of the bugs. Not many people got the beta, so they didn't have to worry about what would happen when the masses did. Now they do. It'll take a week, then everything will be like normal, but better.
So stop insulting VALVe, and realise this is for the best, in time.
Not to say that anything in your post was wrong or "bad speculation", its just this part was screaming at me. The original release of the Beta 2 was downloaded so much in the first 30 minutes, they had to close the beta for a few weeks for whatever reason they had.
I do pray to god that either steam gets better or is just trashed.
Oh, and marine, thanks that helped it a bit. I'm getting about 20kb/s now.
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play
b) is buggy/slow
c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead.
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play
b) is buggy/slow
c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um please know what your talking about before you start making false statements.
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play
b) is buggy/slow
c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um please know what your talking about before you start making false statements. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Please learn english. Also, didn't you just say a few pages back that steam is the first thing that allows developers to update some file in their mod? LAUGH. Please zip it.
b) is buggy/slow
c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play
It's the point of steam, keeps updating the game
b) is buggy/slow
Hell, everyone who plays HL are downloading steam, of course it'll be slow the first few days.
c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE
All your statments are false
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
Not true at all, have you been informed?
a) requires you to download counter-strike and HALF-LIFE ITSELF to play
b) is buggy/slow
c) somewhat disables far superior browsers like ASE
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
... is good, seriously needs to think this over again. I just mentioned some of the bad sides; the most important thing ofcourse is the fact that Half-Life just got it's death sentence and I surely will not support a company that pulls this obnoxious bullsh1t on gamers who have supported their 5 year old game like this. I'll just "aquire" HL2 instead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
d) _WILL_ have a monthly pay 2 play
this guy is so badly getting on my nerves, is there a way to ignore people?
guys like this uttlery ignorant waste-of-flesh are convincing everyone else
to hate steam based on all these fabricated and uninformed facts.
it was released hours ago. it's buggy.
if you dont want the challeng of being there since the beggining and finally
getting it to work after storms of discussion and research (which brings the
community closer imo), then wait your 13 year old **** on the sideline and
keep using WON for the 2 or more weeks that it will be supported
You're wrong, steam will not go pay to play, they learn. (look what pay to play has done to planetside). Right now you're just assuming, with little knowledge.
Well I'm off to the bunk, its 3:30am. See you Mr. Brainwashed Mass <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Oh, and you are painfully wrong. The gaming industry does not learn, especially not the "one-hit-wonders" like Valve.
STEAM ALLOWS PATCHES TO GET TO PEOPLE QUICKLY!!! BUGS CAN BE FIXED IN DAYS INSTEAD OF MONTHS!
They're simply conspirating about anything they don't like. Sort of like politicians in congress. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
quicker? When +500k people hammers steam for the update?
Can someone tell me when abouts during the install and setup process that it asks you for you cdkey?
I hear ya. This thread should be locked, actually all thread about steam should be locked. There's no point on posting here, it's not gonna do anything but start flame wars.
Yes of course a lot of people are trying to download the updates now. But that's Valve's problem. What did they expect? They should have been prepared for that with enough mirrors. If they don't have enough mirrors they shouldn't release it. It's as simple as that.
Remember the NS 2.0 release? Remember how many mirrors MonsE got for the rather small NS community? (Me being one of the mirror admins)
What Valve is just doing here is far less professional than any major Mod release I have ever seen!
You're wrong, steam will not go pay to play, they learn. (look what pay to play has done to planetside). Right now you're just assuming, with little knowledge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Also for the P2P thing it depends, you can subscribe to a game/mod for like 9.99 a month. Or you can buy the game in store, depending on your choice.
I think that when TF2 comes out it will be a P2P option, also it will be a seperate game which does not come as an add-on for HL2, you will have to buy TF2 seperate or via P2P...but thats just my speculation/knowledge
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is getting a good amount of signs fast....