Steam

wlibaers · September 2003

Looks like Valve has reached Microsoft's quality standards...

I'm waiting for the first remote Steam exploit <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

PseudoKnight · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My point is, if I do something like, oh I dunno, re-install my system I DO NOT want to have to download all the games again. In the "old" days I would just keep the install executables somewhere and then re-run them to install. Now it seems I have to download 1GB everytime. Thank God I'm not on 56k.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>You can save the cache files so you don't have to download them again. Once you reinstall Steam, just plunk the old cache file over the empty one. Should work. Steam will update anything that needs to be updated.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Ok, Steam's installed and all seems to be fine. However, when I go to play a game all I get is "Preparing to play Half-Life". I've waited over half an hour, whereas everyone else (including my brother on the same LAN) is getting in almost instantly. Any ideas why mine's b0rked?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>Alot of people seem to have the misconception that by having Steam installed all of a sudden games are on your computer. This isn't true. You have to download the content first. Just leave Steam open for a while. Typically you'd be able to see a progress bar when starting a game, but it seems to be broken again.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>if that was a typo, it was a dam accurate one. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>HA! I had intended to switch NS and Steam around in the sentence and forgot to put "NS" in. Funny though. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I had gotten a couple games of NS 2.01e on Steam an hour ago. Sure there were only a couple people, but at least I got to try it. There are various bugs associated with NS on Steam. For one, as someone pointed out, the command menus are distorted. More interestingly, all TFs and RTs are instantly electrified upon being built. Even HMGs and welders were "electrified" but I never thought to see if they actually shock aliens. (TFs and RTs do) Another bug I noticed was the console log is spammed with an error message.

(Is it normal to see the ally building names and hitpoints when aiming at them? Is this a server mod, 2.01e, or Steam?)

One thing is for sure, though. Steam seems to be getting more stable the more I use it. I think Steam dealing with the clogged content servers caused some of the issues were seeing.

RyoOhki · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>More interestingly, all TFs and RTs are instantly electrified upon being built.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Well if this works in 2.0 then Steam-using coms should stand a good chance of victory <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Catpoker · September 2003

the problem is that everyone is facing these bugs, everyone is facing issuse, and nobody really knows what to do

there is no information for us, and i consider steampowered.com dead

there needs to at LEAST be a fourm for tracking the issuses people are facing

and that froum needs a heavy duty server from the looks of things

all i am saying is that valve needs to say "do this...." but they arent...

LagAdder · September 2003

Does anybody know how to install NS into steam manually?
I really would like to play again. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Geminosity · September 2003

I think I'll just take my usual approach... leave it for a while then install it later after all the bugs are worked out (like in a week or a fortnight =P )
Sure being a pioneer in the unknown is kinda fun but I'd rather not nuke my HL in the name of adventure just yet <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

SillyGoose · September 2003

What I really want to know is will Flayra manage to get a patch out before saturday and the first cal match?

SpecIce · September 2003

You guys must have really crappy computers or something? I have had very few problems with steam? Oh and yes if you still have a 56k it will take a freaking year to download crap!! As with anything get a new connection dont' blame steam. I downloaded HL Opposing force and CS in prolly have an out total time getting 114k or something download which is not bad. Steam crashes? Are you guys running legit ****? I have no idea what your setups are so i can't say but my steam never crashes so I look at most of your posts thinking what the heck. BUt what ever I guess you all have to blam the program when it is most likely your cpu <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

Cragz · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Alot of people seem to have the misconception that by having Steam installed all of a sudden games are on your computer. This isn't true. You have to download the content first. Just leave Steam open for a while. Typically you'd be able to see a progress bar when starting a game, but it seems to be broken again.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I'm quite sure that having patched Half-Life to the full, installing Steam ONLY for Half-Life, trying to join an identical server to the one my brother with exactly the same setup just joined instantly and, well, not being a moron all add up to prove that misconception wasn't there. I guess you didn't know all that though, so I'll let you off this once <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Re"join"ing the server again and again eventually proved fruitful, and to prove it didn't download the content in chunks every few seconds when I was doing this, it still does every time I want to play.

Bugged? I think so.

[edit]

Also, ICE, you'd think REQUIRED software would be robust, and 90% of users would be able to use it without it crashing or not working particularly well. Think again before posting fanboy-esque uneducated rubbish.

LagAdder · September 2003

My specs:

AMD Barton XP 3000+
512MB PC400 CL2 RAM
GeForce4 Ti 4200 64MB
ADSL connection 768kb/s ds | 128kb/s us

Nothing works - dumping this crap and getting
back to regular Half-Life. Hope there's some
folks left to play on the won.net servers. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Geminosity · September 2003

um... just wondering but how many of the people having trouble here got the beta and updated rather than grabbing the proper file from steampowered? There's already been enough trouble with people downloading the beta version before this one was released and getting confused <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Palmaneen · September 2003

Ok, so I installed steam, created an account and then run the converting thing. The only problem is that it frose on opposing force so i had to ctrl - alt - del. It didn't convert my mods and luckily it didn't uninstall my old halflife directory. So is there a way to run the convert thing again, without creating a new account?

Catpoker · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Sep 12 2003, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> um... just wondering but how many of the people having trouble here got the beta and updated rather than grabbing the proper file from steampowered?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
GGGGAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

steams website is a joke.....

have you tried to connect to it for the past, oh 9 hours? its down buddy

there were no mirrors, just one ftp site

LagAdder · September 2003

@Palmaneen: Yes, uninstall your steam client and
then reinstall it using the account you generated
when installing it in the 1st place.

Soz, but I haven't figured out another way to this. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

@Geminosity: I've downloaded it from the official steampowered page.
I was about to host the file on my private webspace, but after all the
trouble I went through, I felt like I wouldn't be doing anybody a favor
by doing so. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Catpoker · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Palmaneen @ Sep 12 2003, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ok, so I installed steam, created an account and then run the converting thing. The only problem is that it frose on opposing force so i had to ctrl - alt - del. It didn't convert my mods and luckily it didn't uninstall my old halflife directory. So is there a way to run the convert thing again, without creating a new account?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
i did preatty much the same thing, trying to find a way now

if only there was an "inport games" button

it looks like the only way is to compleaty uninstall (be sure to deleate everything steam related), go back and install, and use a driffrent email, and try it that way

dont bother using the same email, then it thinks everything is fine and danay and you have already install the stuff you need

god this is bs

Geminosity · September 2003

lol, okies
thanks anyways lag <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Thing is, with steampowered pretty much under a blanket of DoS attacks this is the perfect time for anyone who enjoys **** other people off (quite a lot of those on the net) to start throwing out old beta versions claiming it's the new one and watching people flop about =s
With all the anti-steam attitudes floating about before the release it's not like there aren't enough people out there motivated enough to try and make this transistion more painful than it already is <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Pykmi · September 2003

I got the exactly same problem... With the screen frozing while updating alt-ctrl-delling and trying to run update again. So I'm gonna try with another email... Which is DUMB.

JimBowen · September 2003

I downloaded steam , installed it, but when I double click on the steam.exe nothing happenes <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>
*EDIT* well it finnally came up 5 minutes later <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

LagAdder · September 2003

Wait a while after double clicking it (like at least half an hour or so).
It <b>will</b> come up (sooner but most probably later). <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Edit: Well, welcome to the club then, mr. JimBowen. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Catpoker · September 2003

ok screw it,

I have installed and uninstalled and created so many fake email names its laughable

until valve gets a FAQ, bug report, and support fourm going (or at least get SP.com back up) I am though fiddeling with it

I have gone though 17 "updates" that appear to do nothing, I cant transfer ANYTHING without downloading it agian, and i am left with nothing but lock ups and errors

and HL2 is how many days away?

AGHH i need more sleep now, have to go to work in 5 hours

(oh btw geminosity, that post above was not directed at you, sorry if it sounded flamey <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> )

Palmaneen · September 2003

I tried to reinstall it but now I just have to download all the games if I want to play them. I used the automatic uninstaller. I will try the custom to make sure everything is deleted now, cause I don't think it deleted everything last time. If it doesn't work I'll try to make a new account. But can I just type whatever as e-mail? And can I move it over to my real account?

Tyrain · September 2003

I was even able to play 5 seconds of NS. Though its not ready yet. Without a patch from Flayra I thing it won't work very well.

Catpoker · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>But can I just type whatever as e-mail?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

yes

other then that, i have no clue

LagAdder · September 2003

As far as I know, you need a legit e-mail addy.
When reinstalling steam, just enter the e-mail
addy and password you've used during the 1st
install to log in.

Edit: In fact you have to use the same e-mail, you
used during 1st install, because steam registered
your half-life cd-key with it.

Setup should rerecognize your installed Half-Life
folder and start converting your games.

Palmaneen · September 2003

I guess the thing is to get it to locate my hl directory. It didn't do that last time, but maybe it works now when I deleted everything before reinstalling.

Pykmi · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LagAdder @ Sep 12 2003, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> As far as I know, you need a legit e-mail addy.
When reinstalling steam, just enter the e-mail
addy and password you've used during the 1st
install to log in.

Edit: In fact you have to use the same e-mail, you
used during 1st install, because steam registered
your half-life cd-key with it.

Setup should rerecognize your installed Half-Life
folder and start converting your games.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
.. But it doesn't . It assumes that everything is already in your steam folder for some reason, and adding mods etc. is impossible with the same account.

I think they r gunna realize the mistake of steam at some point..

Palmaneen · September 2003

Well, my hl directory is close to 4 gig so I was thinking about uninstalling it and reinstalling from scratch. Maybe this is the time.

JimBowen · September 2003

I just opened up the steam monitor and it says "scanning..."

Any one have any idea exactly what it is "scanning"?

jabs · September 2003

I've been stuck on 29% for the past 3 hours :/

LagAdder · September 2003

@JimBowen:"scanning"? hmm... that's a new one. didn't
have that yet. perhaps you're already further in the
installation process than I was.

@jabs: I know what you're going through. It was going
really fast until it reached 93% when it got stuck for
4 1/2 hours before it finished.

Steam

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