Ns_darkstar

Icecream · September 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">first Readyroom pics!!!</div> Its my first NS mapping projekt!!
How looks it???

Readyroom pics:
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/ns_x_03.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/ns_x_04.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/ns_x_05.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/ns_x_06.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/ns_x_07.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/ns_x_08.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
and one Marine start pic:
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/NS_X_01.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

RPG_Jssmfulhud · September 2003

As I understand, you are new to mapping. Now onto the map. Toooooo many crates, make some other details. The lighting could be much more interesting than only plain white. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Asraniel · September 2003

you know USS Darkstar? if no, try to find another name

Icecream · September 2003

k!!! i change the name

Mr_Headcrab · September 2003

Darkstar-C works <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

esuna · September 2003

The fonts and colours of the "join team" images are absolutely awful. No coordination between them and they just look like you sneezed some filters all over them. Sorry, but they're crap. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Indica · September 2003

Try to break up the floor, roof and wall texture.
At the moment it looks like a huge game block off Reboot ( remember that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> )

Try to get a theme going. e.g.

Industrial

Decaying old research base.

labs

etc.

These are only rough ideas obviously and are a bit general <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> but try and co-ordinate the mapping and texture use, by relating it to the scenario

goosetickler · September 2003

i got a fever, and the only prescription..... is MORE CRATES!

esuna · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (S|lencer @ Sep 4 2003, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i got a fever, and the only prescription..... is MORE CRATES!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
While crates may be the master race, this isn't Doom.

DrunkenMonkey · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Sep 4 2003, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The fonts and colours of the "join team" images are absolutely awful. No coordination between them and they just look like you sneezed some filters all over them. Sorry, but they're crap. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Actually, those textures are from the ns_tanith-wad...but they still look awful. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

NerdIII · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drunken.Monkey @ Sep 4 2003, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Actually, those textures are from the ns_tanith-wad...but they still look awful. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, that's what I wanted to say <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> But I'm glad that you know what 'additive' stands for already. You just still need to find out about 'solid' <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
For the walls: Try to create a feeling as if there is something behind. Usually the walls in NS are full of pipes, computers, panels and such.
Oh yes and the proportions are evil. A wall that is ten times bigger than the entrance doesn't work except for the front entrance of hangars!

Something general:
Adjacent textures should never have a size ratio of over 2. Or they will look cheap. A break to this rule are textures that are so small that one texture pixel (texel) is smaller than a screen pixel because then nobody will realize that a texture is scaled so much smaller. (No garanties on that rule, I just made it up.)

NerdIII · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drunken.Monkey @ Sep 4 2003, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Actually, those textures are from the ns_tanith-wad...but they still look awful. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, that's what I wanted to say <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> But I'm glad that you know what 'additive' stands for already. You just still need to find out about 'solid' <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
For the walls: Try to create a feeling as if there is something behind. Usually the walls in NS are full of pipes, computers, panels and such.
Oh yes and the proportions are evil. A wall that is ten times bigger than the entrance doesn't work except for the front entrance of hangars!

Something general:
Adjacent textures should never have a size ratio of over 2. Or they will look cheap. A break to this rule are textures that are so small that one texture pixel (texel) is smaller than a screen pixel because then nobody will realize that a texture is scaled so much smaller. (No garanties on that rule, I just made it up.)

BlackPanther · September 2003

I dub thy map: NS_KILLBOX92410.45 !

Kage · September 2003

Which version of compile tools are you using? It looks like you're using p11, which has bugged lighting (mostly fullbright with large color splotches in the general area where they should be).

Fieari · September 2003

Too much empty space. Lower the ceiling, or bring the walls in tighter. Also, add more details, esspecially at corners, such as where the wall meets the ceiling and floor, and also where hallways turn. Don't use so many crates, be more creative with archetecture. Box rooms are very dull.

venomus · September 2003

I quite like that font actually (apart from the clashing colours on Random Team), so there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

But the map itself needs some work, to say the least.

Icecream · September 2003

1. OK the name of the map is now: <b>NS_Cargo7</b>
2. i add a new area here a pic:
<img src='http://icebase.de.tk/ns_darkstar/NS_X_09.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
3. thx for the tips. i change it!! if i have time <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Icecream · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fieari @ Sep 4 2003, 06:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Too much empty space.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
i cant make it smaller, i think a onos need some place. and i have to set 32 info_playerstart, they need some place. in 2-3 days i add new pics!!

Zazi · September 2003

Darkstar... Neil Manke is going to have your **** for this... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Redford · September 2003

annoying, annoying texturework.

Also, I'd change the name of the map. I don't paticularly enjoy the fact that niel manke's masterful HLSP episode could be related to this trainwreck of a map.

Mart · September 2003

Red, that's a little harsh, and the author has already said he's changing the name of the map to ns_cargo7.

Give the guy a break, i'm sure he's still learning.

And a comment on the last screenshot posted, lacks vertical diversity, add some variety to the ceiling, not just a plain flat thing.

uffo · September 2003

is it just me or does anyone else think that conveyor effect is a bit overused in custom maps ? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
maybe i should remove mine while i still can

Kage · September 2003

Fix the lighting, and it should look much better.

Haze · September 2003

Also, someone might have pointed this out, but using the same texture for the ceiling is not that attractive IMHO. Makes you feel...closed in. Anywho, just change the ceiling texture a bit.

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