Heavy Armor's Mentality
GoldenShadow
Join Date: 2002-04-21 Member: 483Members
Join Date: 2002-04-21 Member: 483Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I'm invincible!</div> I was just in a game where I had to leave early, but we were winning. I was commander and it started as a small 2v3 game then escalated to a 8v8 i think as the server gained players. Map was nothing, I built early TF and 3 turrets my one marine starting with me helped me build thm and i dropped 2 shotguns for us to defend the base. all was going well, another player joined i sent them to get foreboding chamber by PS hive, then a small lockdown of PS with 4 turrets. moved on to via, locked it down 6 turrets, then went around and claimed all the nodes. save for the ones close to to cargo, we had 6 or 7 at this point. I electrified them and upgraded everything I could. I was slow to get PGs up but it didn't matter yet, aliens weren't even going near the Turret farms in the hives.
The point is the game was going so well for me, Then I dropped heavy armor. I was 100's of res to spare so I dropped it abundantly like it was sand 5 HA, 5 HMG 2 GL tons of welders, my guys suted up and then we started losing. Sure they made tons of kills with their fancy new weapons, but they Refused to follow my orders. I tried and tried, they won't stay in a group, at least some of them were smart to go in pairs, but i wanted ALL of them together, We could have run into cargo and finished it off in minutes.I get them wandering off doing whatever, one rambo kept picking up the HA I was deploying anda HMG or GL and running to cargo to shoot off some nades into the WoL then get eaten by the onos and repeat. after 2 or 3 times of that I told him I wasn't dropping armor anymore till he listened, so there comes the vote to eject me, it fails at first but another one starts, while I am trying to tell people whats under attack, where and by whom, PGs are going down, TF are dieing, we lose PS once and twice after siegeing it back. via goes down, still no one listens, I still have a huge res reserve so I just leave the server hope they can fix it themselves.
Why do the 'new' people(NOOBS) do well at first, following orders, then go rambo once they get a new gun? I catered to them in everyway, except for the one rambo at the very end I stopped giving him armor, he just ran into the onos stomach as soon as he got one.
Just so this isn't a total whine post, It was a 2.01d server so I can comment on it. The new res price is awesome, makes expension really easy, electric time is good, the node electrifies fast enough so you can start it after a skulk is biting it and have it shock him before it goes down.(still having 1/4 health) I love the way marines are released when onos are redempted, even easier than killing one since you don't even have to scratch them to make em disapear. 2 HMG concentrated fire, its hard for the onos to even get close enough to devour in the first place.
The point is the game was going so well for me, Then I dropped heavy armor. I was 100's of res to spare so I dropped it abundantly like it was sand 5 HA, 5 HMG 2 GL tons of welders, my guys suted up and then we started losing. Sure they made tons of kills with their fancy new weapons, but they Refused to follow my orders. I tried and tried, they won't stay in a group, at least some of them were smart to go in pairs, but i wanted ALL of them together, We could have run into cargo and finished it off in minutes.I get them wandering off doing whatever, one rambo kept picking up the HA I was deploying anda HMG or GL and running to cargo to shoot off some nades into the WoL then get eaten by the onos and repeat. after 2 or 3 times of that I told him I wasn't dropping armor anymore till he listened, so there comes the vote to eject me, it fails at first but another one starts, while I am trying to tell people whats under attack, where and by whom, PGs are going down, TF are dieing, we lose PS once and twice after siegeing it back. via goes down, still no one listens, I still have a huge res reserve so I just leave the server hope they can fix it themselves.
Why do the 'new' people(NOOBS) do well at first, following orders, then go rambo once they get a new gun? I catered to them in everyway, except for the one rambo at the very end I stopped giving him armor, he just ran into the onos stomach as soon as he got one.
Just so this isn't a total whine post, It was a 2.01d server so I can comment on it. The new res price is awesome, makes expension really easy, electric time is good, the node electrifies fast enough so you can start it after a skulk is biting it and have it shock him before it goes down.(still having 1/4 health) I love the way marines are released when onos are redempted, even easier than killing one since you don't even have to scratch them to make em disapear. 2 HMG concentrated fire, its hard for the onos to even get close enough to devour in the first place.
Comments
Nah...
JPs are less reliable and are more likely to fail.
Its much easier to kill a bunch of JP/shotgun outfits as opposed to a HA squad.
2.1 will herald the end of redeeming oni out for a free happy meal and the bane of all HA squads.
SO THEY CAN GET THE BIG GUNS LATTER ON AND GO KILL STUFF!--- <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> "YAY, HA, HMG!! Im Leet time to kill woo!" <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> *DEVOUR* "Crap..."
But they, being the noobs they are, don't relize that they are not SUPER UNITS and can be killed fairly easy if caught issolated. <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> *BuRp*
However even in groups HA is still vulnarable to the "EAT and Run" ONOS strat, I have done it very well many times, just don't rely on redeem and be sneaky. (Being sneaky with an onos can be tough tho <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
This is one of the main reasons for the long stailmates at the end where one team has the whole map and the other is demanding that they "just finish it".
Marines were all over us, someone had built sensory and no gorge seemed willing to go and put sensories in adequete positions. The marines did a superb job of taking out our res, the aliens did a terrible job at defending them and taking out marine res nodes. This was on Origin.
Marines just totally trounced us, we got two hives up, that wasn't hard, however they sieged our second hive (biodome) before we could get enough defence chambers down in the initial hive, left with only one! We then managed to get furnace up and so built a few MC's, but again, furnace was sieged and we were left with just three mc's in ventilation.
From here the aliens did nothing to advance in resources, and did nothing to neglect the marine team, so naturally they were pooling res and getting ready for HA. Just before they sent their first HA lot out, we managed to secure cargo for ourselves, we thought we could turn it around...but the HA's just stormed through, as most of us were gorges deffing up, we died quickly.
This is when it all got a bit weird, as we managed to get hives back up, taking down siege points, but 5 HA guys would just walk in and blast our hive apart. They took us down to ventalation only again and then tried to walk in on us. They had Med support and ammo support, but obviously they were the dumbest HA team in history because not one of the five of them welded anything but an alien...and on more thanhalf a dozen occasions in the whole game lone HA marines were parading around the map!
I've never seen as many skulk kills on HA marines as I've seen in this game...over three attacks we wiped out HA teams of almost half a dozen each time with little more than skulks and gorges at hive one level...bonkers really.
Just an interesting story on this topic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
-Lee