Found How Many Constellation Player There Is

TorNTorN Join Date: 2003-08-31 Member: 20412Members, Constellation
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">yeah i was bored :D</div> Since I had nothing to do and didnt slept for the night, I read that other post trying to find out how many constellation player there is.

Then ive been thinking how the hell servers know the constellation members ? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> this couldnt been hardcoded since the list must grow and new constellation members can be added. So this list must be received when the server is going up. And also, there isnt only constellation members, there is also developpers, veterans, betaop and a group called "pt" (maybe for playtester? )

I've had a lot of question on how HLDS is operating with WON to get updated on the master list ... so this was the perfect time to try this:

I found a little opensource utility to sniff my network:

www.packetyzer.com

really good little app. Its instinctive and powerful.

With this app I could see what is transfered over the network.

I then began capturing on packetyzer, started an HLDS server and, among other things, I could see all the dev,playtester,betaop,vet,const with all their wonids <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> . I was surprised it wasnt encrypted at all. Maybe for the next version they should make this encrypted. Or maybe the dont care at all...

Anyway, after that all i had to do is copy the clipboard from packetyzer and make a txt file. Then I wrote a little C program in about 5 mins to find the number of occurence of a word from a txt file . I did this for dev,pt,vet,betaop,const.

Here are the results:

dev: 10
pt: 80
vet: 140
betaop: 13
const: 292

so there is 292 constellation members <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> not far from the 300 some of you predicted <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

That post is just to share you my discoveries, nothing more <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    hax0r <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • TorNTorN Join Date: 2003-08-31 Member: 20412Members, Constellation
    well, seriously I could make hax/exploit and such, I just dont see the point to it. I know I could do it, and if I could do lots of ppl will hate me <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> (me)

    I dont have the time either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> universty sure is keeping me busy
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  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TorN^+Aug 31 2003, 04:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TorN^ @ Aug 31 2003, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well, seriously I could make hax/exploit and such, I just dont see the point to it. I know I could do it, and if I could do lots of ppl will hate me <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> (me)

    I dont have the time either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> universty sure is keeping me busy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sure u can READ it but can u really edit it, put it back in and expect it to work fine?
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  • TorNTorN Join Date: 2003-08-31 Member: 20412Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    QUOTE (TorN^ @ Aug 31 2003, 04:15 PM)
    well, seriously I could make hax/exploit and such, I just dont see the point to it. I know I could do it, and if I could do lots of ppl will hate me 

      (me)

    I dont have the time either  universty sure is keeping me busy 

    sure u can READ it but can u really edit it, put it back in and expect it to work fine?

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    well that depend... some things are easier to do than other .. but given time and patience yes I could make anything(well anything that is client side since most server side exploits are found quite fast), tho it would be lame.. I mean the game is fun as it is .. remember what I did up there was at 6 in the morning I didnt slept it took me about 1 hour to do that ... I got lucky it wasnt encrypted. if it was I wouldnt be able to do anything at this point. I would need to look over the net for the most popular encryption methods and see if one could fit there. Or looking at the part of code that decrypts the message with a asm debugger or such.

    I dont want to brag or anything ... but some people thinks that "hacks" is a "mysterious" thing only for "elite" can do. Yeah right ... That's not true, anyone can learn how to "hack" (hell i hate that word) given time and patience <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> and a lot of google sometimes <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    and at this point I dont even know why im talking about this <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • TorNTorN Join Date: 2003-08-31 Member: 20412Members, Constellation
    Also the goal of my first post was to give the actual realy numbers of constellation (at the same time dev,vet,pt,etc) because some of you seems interested in that. Thats all <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • statusqstatusq Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12142Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Aug 31 2003, 07:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Aug 31 2003, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <MrMojo> wow...1 337 is auto transformed into "elite" ?


    Testing : "elite" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    MrMojo stop dodging filters <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    And on subject: I thought there were much much more constellation members than that <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Onkel_DittmeyerOnkel_Dittmeyer Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17951Members
    I don't get how you want to h4x the list when you just can read it? You can't just choose your WonID, you obtain it from WON after you submitted your CD-Key...
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  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited August 2003
    And with a $20 min, that means Flay raised at least $5840. Thank you Constellation members! That does remind me to go buy some junk off cafepress....

    Edit- Why I do the sudden image of a Fade going, "With your donation, NS can continue it's fine tradition of good gaming?"
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  • EplekongenEplekongen Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8915Members
    Good to know the stats. But yeah, there should be more constellation members I suppose, bu then again, a large part of the community are under-aged.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    /Wonders how many there are now <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • FreddehFreddeh Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18520Members, Constellation
    Hehe add at least one more to that list <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hida Tsuzua+Aug 31 2003, 12:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hida Tsuzua @ Aug 31 2003, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Edit- Why I do the sudden image of a Fade going, "With your donation, NS can continue it's fine tradition of good gaming?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why does this remind me of the picture of you in your Santa hat?
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    While this information isn't really secret, I would very much appreciate you not posting any more info on this. It can only lead to bad things.
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