It's A Shame.
explodingheadboy
Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Less pub CD servers = More hacking.</div> One of NS 1.04's biggest problems lately is that more and more people seem to be hacking. And many of the servers are only admined for an hour or two during the entire day that they're up. I used to see lots of CD-Required servers out there, and on those servers the game was fun, and serious. No screwing around, and the game was fair.
Now I'm seeing less and less CD servers. And it bothers me. I know NS 2.0 will have VAC support. But what about now. It's not fun to join a pub server and constantly get mowed down by the same two people who seem just a little bit too "Clairyoyant". Or those people that you can obviously see are using an aimbot.
And usually you get stuck playing with them because the server doesn't allow kick votes.
This is why we had CD servers. And the gameplay was so much different on those. And I'm dissapointed because these days, I haven't been able to find a single CD-Req server.
Does anyone know of any decent CD servers on the East Coast?
Now I'm seeing less and less CD servers. And it bothers me. I know NS 2.0 will have VAC support. But what about now. It's not fun to join a pub server and constantly get mowed down by the same two people who seem just a little bit too "Clairyoyant". Or those people that you can obviously see are using an aimbot.
And usually you get stuck playing with them because the server doesn't allow kick votes.
This is why we had CD servers. And the gameplay was so much different on those. And I'm dissapointed because these days, I haven't been able to find a single CD-Req server.
Does anyone know of any decent CD servers on the East Coast?
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207.200.24.214:27015 Freaks Unleashed! NS Hive 1.05 CD Req
24.207.0.211:27015 redphive.org -1- NS [C-D REQUIRED]
I have seen people good enough to know when someone was comming around the corner but even wall/ceiling climbing it was always a direct hit so I dont know.
I have seen people good enough to know when someone was comming around the corner but even wall/ceiling climbing it was always a direct hit so I dont know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
good players always check for an alien hidding. then usually kills it.
but when 3 skulks with full HP ambush 1 marine, and the marine kills them in 1 second. h4x detected. ;p
If you're not satisfied with the server you're on there's only two things to do:
- Don't play there
or
- Make it better
Usually one of those options takes care of the problem. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
That said, that server is CD required, and has some quite fun (and very damn good) people, both marine and alien. You have not known fear until you have had rp^steventhegreat chase you down with a shotgun and jetpack lol.
Though KK has been empty for the past few days, most likely becuase everyone is waiting for 2.0, but we can always use some new people besides us regulars and the occasional newbie.
Also i should mention that 2 admins are usually on hand for most of the games, just look for players with the SKA (for "supreme kettle admin") tag on their name.
...then again not everyone love custom maps like I do, but we do play quite a few normal maps too like nancy, eclipse, hera and such.
VAC > * > CD
It's clairvoyant. :P
Now I'm seeing less and less CD servers. And it bothers me. I know NS 2.0 will have VAC support. But what about now. It's not fun to join a pub server and constantly get mowed down by the same two people who seem just a little bit too "Clairyoyant". Or those people that you can obviously see are using an aimbot.
And usually you get stuck playing with them because the server doesn't allow kick votes.
This is why we had CD servers. And the gameplay was so much different on those. And I'm dissapointed because these days, I haven't been able to find a single CD-Req server.
Does anyone know of any decent CD servers on the East Coast? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
WTH are you smoikin man?
Almost every server out there has C-D in reqired mode. I think theres about 3 servers that dont run c-d at all-and i never play on those.
frankly cheating isn't that much of a problem that I see, it's just one of the evils that is blown way out of porportion, kinda like MonsE <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
wait till you get kicked from servers because you "obviously use an aimbot"
I won't be running VAC either because it is buggy and too I've heard too many horror stories about it.
For 2.0 we'll be keeping our current anti-cheat, admins! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
and yes, CD servers are nice ... not because it stops the cheats , but because it cuts down on accusations.
As NS grows this is going to become a VARY big issui. I really dont want NS to go the way of CS. When CS got popular ie. release of retail all them young teen males started downloading there skills in record numbers. and ruined the game for alot of us old timers.
and yes, CD servers are nice ... not because it stops the cheats , but because it cuts down on accusations. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yep, cd is good at stopping some cheatings, but it doesn't stop everything, it just stops people from accusing each other.
Edit: I dont think the cheating problem is as big as everyone thinks and even if it is, well it just gives me more practice, i mean if i can beat a cheater...
We all doubt that cheating is widespread in the NS community. But there is always someone, isn't it? Did he take out all those skulks on his own? What's up with that awfully acurate lerk hovering (and flapping) over there? Why didn't I see that marine -- was he using the invisible marine exploit? Why did that skulk know I was here -- is he using the parasite exploit? Or did the walls hack?! (I mean -- why else do they call it Wallhack?)
The point is that it is easy for us to to "see" cheaters even when there aren't any. And that, by itself, makes a lousy gaming experience. We do not have to be killed for the n'th time by the "cheater", we only have to know that someone might be playing unfair, and then we feel that it's an unfair and boring game.
I only play on CD-servers now, and I feel somewhat "safer" there. I might be fooling myself, but at least I'm having a good gaming experience.
Almost every server out there has C-D in reqired mode. I think theres about 3 servers that dont run c-d at all-and i never play on those. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So true, so true, I always get kicked cus' I forget to activate C-D :S
and yes, CD servers are nice ... not because it stops the cheats , but because it cuts down on accusations. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yep, cd is good at stopping some cheatings, but it doesn't stop everything, it just stops people from accusing each other.
Edit: I dont think the cheating problem is as big as everyone thinks and even if it is, well it just gives me more practice, i mean if i can beat a cheater...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well said )
pffffft! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> KissthatassThing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
LOL, Roobubbas is a great server, sadly its always full for us non members,
Roob I think you should remove some of the reserved slots, they are hardly ever always filled, its unfair to have one of my fav servers always imposible to get on to! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
A regular community of memebers and players and admins is all you need.
I play on the EC server alot -Nano Gridlock- and I never have seen anyone hack on there for more than a second before they are kicked or baned by members like Lightning Blue. People like Supernorn scare people into playing fair, he uses a tactic that is very rare:
Supernorn blows him self up non stop! One second your playing with him and the next hes dematerialized all over the room! I don't know about you, but I wouldn't cheat if that was the price..... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
My Point is, as long as you have admins like LB and norn are on the EC (my fav server) server you won't need to have CD running.
I think CD is required on the EC server, I always have it on so I never think twice.
Actually if you read his post you would notice he runs a server (at least one). So he "runs" VAC...
And why don't you ppl use The All-Seeing Eye. It's fabulous piece of software that also allows you to choose to start C-D whenever you connect to C-D server. And it's pop-up free and everything...
Edit: grammar is a nice thing
Edit2: yes it is
Actually if you read his post you would notice he runs a server (at least one). So he "runs" VAC...
And why don't you ppl use The All-Seeing Eye. It's fabulous piece of software that also allows you to choose to start C-D whenever you connect to C-D server. And it's pop-up free and everything...
Edit: grammar is a nice thing
Edit2: yes it is <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The in game browser gets the job done. Just load CD before you load NS. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
And someone mentioned something about some sort of C-D problems. But use whatever game browser you are comfortable with.
There was this on a server, he was acting kinda myg0t-ish. The funny thing was , his voicecomm sounded like a teenager. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyways, he was arguing with other server goers. He was using an aimbot and speedhack, or so someone else said. He OBVIOUSLY didn't try to hide the fact in his conversation. So the little script kiddy talks all tough and does the whole "Ban me and I'll just come back with another id". Then he starts saying how he could crash the server, and saying that if he's banned he and his friends will Ddos it. And then he mentions something about how he's in a hacker group or somethin(more like a script kiddy group). So eventually he proceeds to crash the server. I think he was doing this for awhile.
The scary thing is, a guy on the server told me he was using OGC(very easy for morons to get), and it has a buffer overflow option. So now they put true script kiddy power into the hands of the script kiddies. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
There was no admin there. I sure hope that a game server can defend against packet overflows, or DDoSing. Web servers can in some cases, but would a Half-life server be able to, if the admin knew what he was doing?
Although I don't think NS cheating is overly common, I'm just reminding everyone that NS is not 100% safe. That being said, I saw a Myg0t dude on an NS server recently. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
There was this on a server, he was acting kinda myg0t-ish. The funny thing was , his voicecomm sounded like a teenager. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyways, he was arguing with other server goers. He was using an aimbot and speedhack, or so someone else said. He OBVIOUSLY didn't try to hide the fact in his conversation. So the little script kiddy talks all tough and does the whole "Ban me and I'll just come back with another id". Then he starts saying how he could crash the server, and saying that if he's banned he and his friends will Ddos it. And then he mentions something about how he's in a hacker group or somethin(more like a script kiddy group). So eventually he proceeds to crash the server. I think he was doing this for awhile.
The scary thing is, a guy on the server told me he was using OGC(very easy for morons to get), and it has a buffer overflow option. So now they put true script kiddy power into the hands of the script kiddies. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
There was no admin there. I sure hope that a game server can defend against packet overflows, or DDoSing. Web servers can in some cases, but would a Half-life server be able to, if the admin knew what he was doing?
Although I don't think NS cheating is overly common, I'm just reminding everyone that NS is not 100% safe. That being said, I saw a Myg0t dude on an NS server recently. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, he techincally didn't crash the server. The buffer overflow (presumably via the adminmod timeleft/nextmap) just sends a packet overflow to the clients, thus flushing the connection and causing the data to be so heavy that the client cannot keep up and thus is released from the active connections. So, he actually failed to do what he said in the first place. (As the server remains up.) And DDoSing it would still not crash it, it would just cause too many connections and allow further requests to be refused due to congestion, thus once again he fails at crashing the server.
And, ROFLOTMAOLOLAOLTOhaHAHAAH @ n00bs thinking they can hack because they can load an injector exe. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its a shame for UnitedAdmins, that they ignore NS and still dont support NS by adding the Features needed to detect those "plugins".
Especially because these hacks are based on 0GC, which always got blocked after a time by CD.
The actual NS hacks work since cd 2.X. They never updated an detection mechanism for NS.