[mwip] Another Gauss Rifle

enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
edited July 2003 in NS Customization
<div class="IPBDescription">meh.</div> Well i dunno. I wanted to have a go at it and this is what i got. I respect that Jamil has alot of things to do but it gets to the point where you're tired of waiting. Instead of pressuring Jamil (which is pointless) i made my own model as you can see below. I'm going to try and skin it too. I do have summer school though and if you who've been waiting this long still want it you'll have to help out. I can't skin mesh so i'll need help there. I can't animate so i'll need help there too. Enough talk more pix:

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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    Good stuff. I was wondering when someone was going to give it a shot themselves. I am taking too long, but only because I'm doing everything myself.

    I'm not sure where your reference comes from, I've never seen it before. It has a lot of similarities to the reference pictures I've seen, but some areas are just totally different.
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    its from some toy picture. Alot of the ones i've seen look like this so i based the model on majority. Do you suppose you will finish your model? I just want to know if im wasting my time or not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    Looks nice, btw, will custom sounds be added to either model(Fireing sounds)?
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    Nice. Any Gauss is better than no Gauss I say. Your's is different, but still sweet.
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    Looks like Jamils got some competition <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> thats always good.
    ...
    Please...PLEASE tell me that that thing's magazine is the Bizon styled mag underneath the barrel, so I don't drive myself insane thinking I'm the only one who sees it that way. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    i dont see any other clips so i guess thats how it must be.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited July 2003
    nah, delta. it's not bizon style. bizon mags go in vertically.

    yeah, it's forward, and it's round, but so are the shell tubes on shotguns.

    edit: hopefully i haven't induced insanity.
    edit2: crap grammar. *i hope i haven't induced insanity.
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    edited July 2003
    <a href='http://firearmsmod.com/weapons3/bizon.jpg' target='_blank'>Bizon</a>

    I beg to differ. Vertically?? Its more like horizontally...

    EDIT:
    Wait, are you talking about the direction it takes bullets in? or the direction of the clip itself? If its the former, yus, your right. The latter makes for not so right.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited July 2003
    vertically loading design.

    it's not a p90 or something.. rotating the bullets 90 degrees and loading downwards and or some crap..

    edit:
    i said this:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yeah, it's forward, and it's round, but so are the shell tubes on shotguns.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    <=== pwned. Forgive me, meh has made a terrible mistake.
    ...
    <i>SEPPUKU!!!111oneone</i>
    *splat*
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    Is this going to be an LMG? HMG? or both?
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    haw. commit seppuku with horizontally loading gauss magazine thingy!!!

    *thud*
    "ow!"
    *thud*
    "ow!"

    ***
  • s3xy_korean_bois3xy_korean_boi Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16551Members
    hmmmmmmmz
    make de gauss rifle a lmg considering that al marines carry it, the shot gun c10 canister, piston just a pistol, and hmg a chain gun. becuase u can't change the hmg into a flamethrowe (firebat) so yeah enjoy ^^.
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    I <b>really</b> hope this one <b>will be</b> finished <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ChubbieboiChubbieboi Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11408Members
    should make 1 for both LMG and HMG but may take up more time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    personally i would use it as HMG <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HypnoHypno Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13975Members
    nah i'd prefer it as lmg but i really hope u cud get actual marine firing sounds do you think you can probe starcraft for some sounds??
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    mhm... well... there is a least one SC Soundpack floating around somewhere at the official release topic <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    and it has sounds for HMG AND LMG included. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • therougeknighttherougeknight Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6379Members
    Enf0rcer, I can animate it if you want. This is another item I'd like really like to see in the SC pack. It looks good <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--s3xy_korean_boi+Jul 9 2003, 02:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (s3xy_korean_boi @ Jul 9 2003, 02:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hmmmmmmmz
    make de gauss rifle a lmg considering that al marines carry it, the shot gun c10 canister, piston just a pistol, and hmg a chain gun. becuase u can't change the hmg into a flamethrowe (firebat) so yeah enjoy ^^. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A chaingun? Well, that doesn't seem too starcrafty. I was thinking that the one with a <i>Cylindrical-Shaped Clip that loaded ammunition into the magazine through a P-90 manner</i> would be ideal for the HMG, since a <i>Cyclindrical-Shpaed Clip</i> can hold more. The LMG should be clip loaded, a tactically modified version of the Gauss rifle. Its in the Starcraft Ghost artwork, the one where the marines are in the breakroom. But you've got it straight so far korean <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->. The pistol will have to wait till Blizzard releases some concept art on the C-8 Impaler Pistol that the Light Marines carry in GHOST...sad...but true <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    I'm useing one of Jaeger's pistols, the one with a laser sight, for some reason it seems like it'd fit in Starcraft just by the looks of it :X
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--therougeknight+Jul 9 2003, 06:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (therougeknight @ Jul 9 2003, 06:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Enf0rcer, I can animate it if you want. This is another item I'd like really like to see in the SC pack. It looks good <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    excellent. I'd love it if you would. If i can get this thing skin meshed i can have it read for you pretty soon after.
  • ChupacabraChupacabra Join Date: 2003-03-18 Member: 14667Members
    That round barrel everyone thinks is the magazine, is a Rocket/Grenade launcher. In the Brood War intro, this this made clear. It is clearly the Guass Rifle, and not some other weapon.

    I plan on using this as a LMG, because I can't go without using a Guass Rifle until the near end of the game.
    I don't know, base the HMG off this, but maybe add a round drum mag on the bottom to act as a larger magazine or something?
  • commandfoxcommandfox Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12037Members
    edited July 2003
    yah, i remember proving that in another thread.. but pity they never show a move in which he reloaded in the game
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    I don't think they -had- to reload, if you remember in the BW intro there was this back-pack on the marines back that had the ammo count, I think the bullets were fed from there :/
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Guass means it shoots metal spikes and the guass rifle from SC shoots... what was it 5mm or 9mm spikes so what seems reasonable is it loads like a shotgun you just dump the bullets into a receptical thingy and **** the gun and
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    edited July 2003
    No...no drum magazine! Christ! That hippie dude in the Brood War intro had some other weapon *hint* anti-tank *hint*. NOT A GRENADE LAUNCHER! Really, why is it that the marines when you produce them at the Barrack don't start firing these grenade launchers that seem to be reverened. I mean, psycopathic reformed people with grenade launchers for everyone?? I don't think that would be very cheap, and as marines are cannon fodder, equip them "economically." Even the US army doesn't give every one of its soldiers M-203s. And their *burst fire*, kinda hints at the "economic" thoughts they had in mind when equiping marines.
    ...
    Must be cylindrical magazine clip that feeds ammuntion into the clip through a P-90 like 90 degree spin, and then up to the barrel, then fired. NO DRUM MAGAZINE! NO C-MAG! NONE!!!!!11oneone

    *pops cornary*

    <i>Italisized text doesn't respond to Chupacabra's Reload

    And they were 6mm spikes, and it can't be breech loaded. If you watched the Brood War Intro, and you saw the damn thing's firing rate at full auto, you'd think that breechloading would leave you rather *depleted* and wishing you hadn't been so trigger happy.

    Also, about that backpack feed magazine. Too expensive to standard issue. That backpack was most likely life support (See: Oxygen, batteries for the suit to run *power assist* and the shoulder mounted search light).</i>
  • ChupacabraChupacabra Join Date: 2003-03-18 Member: 14667Members
    Hey bud, watch it again. You must be blind or something. It is CLEARLY a Guass Rifle. Remember the other movie, where the Marines get ambushed on the Sci Vessel? That Marine had a pistol. Why don't Marines start shooting pistols once they come out of the Barracks? <b>Because there is no secondary weapon for SC units!</b>

    As for the realism of US Army not handing out M203's. This is the "future"...there is no such thing as Zerg, people can't turn invisible, guns don't shoot spikes, and buildings don't fly.

    The Guass Rifle's were never reloaded because they didn't need to come up with a firing system for a RTS, where there is no reloading. They shoot in burst for BALANCE issues.

    The ammo count was on the side of the Rifle, not on a backpack.

    You act like that concept picture is the Bible or something. It is CONCEPT, that drawing was released way before SC: Ghost. That is the artist's imagination/opinion on what the Guass Rifle could be, notice how there are no "real" Guass Rifles in that drawing?
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    edited July 2003
    <i>/me hopes that this doesn't get too personal. Me hopes its a good natured discussion about how it's reloaded, not a flame war. If it is, I'll drop it before this thread gets locked. Senseless if it is. I have edited text in my last post to show which doesn't pertain to you. It pertains to other posts, not yours Chupacabra</i>

    I'm not using the concept, I'm using the Terran Defeat background picture (the one where the marine is standing with his Rifle held out on a side view against a brownish/orangish sky and ground). That's what makes me think its so. If you disagree, at least offer some otherway of reloading with adding something like a jumbo slushie machine (even though I'd like that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->). I used the concept picture back when I ranted about making a banana clip loaded Gauss Rifle with adjustable stock and RIS, but not now.

    Yes, I am aware that the ammo counter is on the rifle, not the backpack. I hope that wasn't directed towards me.

    However, I believe were talking about making it accurate with the Starcraft storyline/presets, not the way it is ingame. Reload has to be somehow at least feasible with the current model without adding something, as I stated before.

    People can't turn invisible, buildings don't fly, guns don't shoot spikes (because right now aren't so economical that we rely on bullet size, not the shape of the bullet)...true. Howeer, I'll have to say you are correct on this, as I am puzzled and can't seem to afford a proper point on this. Stim packs make the ROF on a weapon go up magically then fall back down after a few seconds...weird O_o. So, I won't use any more modern day anologies.

    <i>/me really prays this is a good, clean discussion, not a flame war.</i>
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    Why not have the spot behind that hump be used to reload since we can't agree on any other spot?
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