Elect Node Problems

Big_Chief_Brown_BottomBig_Chief_Brown_Bottom Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12584Members
edited June 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">double node + tf</div> in some maps there are double res node points (like hera's holoroom). if you stick a tf between them and electrify them all that's 3x30 = 90 damage zap that will insta-kill a skulk. anyone else see a probelm with this? from what i've read in beta forums, the zap already has too much damage, range and rate of fire. maybe maps need to be redesigned to get rid of double node points? they will be too easy to hold in my opinon

oh yeah. another potential problem i see is elect tf vent blocking. cc blocking is bad enuf now but when tfs go electrified they'll be the most horrendous vent blockers ever. is there any plans to stop buildings in vents in 1.1?
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  • GeronimoGeronimo Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11056Members
    suggestion?
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  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    i never thought of that... Elec TF blocking would be lethal.

    i take it the elec damage is stackable? if you build a res and a couple of tf's next to each other, and elec them all, then a skulk that walks past gets fried instantly?...

    another thing - does this elec damage go through walls? cause with careful positioning, i'm sure you could crucify some places, like Shipping tunnel. block it with 2 elec tf.s... and skulk that tries to go through the door gets fried. a gorge that comes near gets fried... u have to use the vent, but even then u can't open the door or you get fried
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  • TiaxTiax Join Date: 2003-05-28 Member: 16802Members
    edited June 2003
    Nice job spotting that.

    Hmmmm


    Could they not do one of or both of these things?

    1. Make electric stuff ONLY work within a certain distance of a res nozzle. Thus you won't have electrified things stuck in odd places such as vents.

    2. Make electrified items cost res per second or minute. I.E. you wont' want to many running because it'll cost you constant 'upkeep'.

    Course both these have flaws in them. Some res nozzles ARE near vents. And if you got 15 res nodes, all electrified....then the upkeep really wouldn't be bad.


    By the way, I think they should give ya a beta account for that one <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • The_0range_MarinE_2The_0range_MarinE_2 Join Date: 2003-06-05 Member: 17034Members
    Wouldnt it just cost too much to get these electified TF's, and you would be wasting yoru res on them, as the aleins get better units. Sure, I would put a TF in between, it keeps the skulks off of it.

    But, have you thought that the game isnt going to be just lerks/skulks in 1.1? Its going to be fades too! They'll teach those TF's a thing or two. Plus, when they get fades, you will have used all your res on the TF's to block the skulks, and then your army is just LMG marines vs Skulks. Guess what, GAME OVER.

    The game is balanced right now with the electrify nodes. There really isnt anything wrong with it yet. And the vent blocking is not a problem on the servers I play on, people dont lame up their rep with it, if you find good servers, and I'm sure it won't be used. Hell, I never thought of it, maybe you should have kept it hush hush until it came up. But, then it could have been like SARS...ah what am I saying, ALL IS FINE IN 1.1..
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  • NegaBenjiNegaBenji Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12058Members
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    That one's pretty weak though, easy to take down with long-range fire. Kharaa are almost FORCED to bring a gorge if they want to take something electrified out.
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  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
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    rofl yes

    good ol command and conquer days, that was the most gayest piece of equipment ever to fight, but great to use.

    i usually took those down eith ease (thank you battle cruisers and air strikes, buha)
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  • CEldinCEldin Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1323Members
    By the time a rine team got two nodes w/ electricity, and a TF w/ electicity, it is presumable that a decent alien team would have two hives OR enough RP to go Lerk/Fade/Onos. Two hives would let gorge bile bomb, and any of the high lifeforms would destroy the outpost, so I really do not see this as a problem.
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    blocking vents with tf? omg.
    You can block vents with mines already, much cheaper, same efectivity. great strat. seen anytime? no?
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  • Big_Chief_Brown_BottomBig_Chief_Brown_Bottom Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12584Members
    edited June 2003
    yeah ollj but the elect hits you thru walls. if you been reading the beta forum you would know that. a tf in a conveineint vent would zap all passers nearby. not to mention the elects can target 3 at a time
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