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84n44n · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">.loc files?</div> well, im still an ns noob but i like using scripts. Like, i have a bind that makes me say "[ medpack plz ]" and make the sound, i have that for ammo, enemy here, orders plz, things like that. What i miss is something like "i'm at [location]". This should be possible with a bind "say i'm at %L" combined with a .loc file (more info see <a href='http://ahlmd.telefragged.com/tutorials.php?tid=1' target='_blank'>http://ahlmd.telefragged.com/tutorials.php?tid=1</a>

has anyone ever made these for NS? i'd really love that. I'm a noob, still getting used to my binds and if i have to type "medpack at base plz" all the time or "enemy in the vents" or so im really gonna get annoyed. so... anyone?

if nobody's done this yet i might do it... but the problem is that i don't know how NS players call most places. I've heard stuff like "gen" and "vsys" and such, no idea what they stand for.

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

Maps - go here:<a href='http://www.fohguild.org/war3/maps/' target='_blank'>Maps</a> should give you names of locations.

Here too: <a href='http://www.tribes2maps.com/ns/' target='_blank'>Less "cluttered" looking maps.</a>

84n44n · May 2003

thanks <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

the second link provides ideal maps for this... im goin to start right after i'm done with studying my history test <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

And good luck on your history test! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

84n44n · May 2003

lol i'll need it.. the test is like a preparation for our exam.. only the test is bigger than our exam <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

anyway, time to study. I'll something online if i have it. Only problem i think is..
it says sv_cheats has to be on to create the files, i hope it doesnt have to be on to use the %L thing. Else there migth be problems since a LOT of NS servers use Cheating Death.

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

If you use sv_cheats 1 along with developer 1 (after going to "console" in your menu) you can then type in <b>map ns_tanith.bsp</b> or any other map name you please. You will then start in its ready room. Go through its Marines portal and a game will start with you and no-one else. But you can still buildstuff and lay down structures. You face one enemy res tower and hive. If you start as an alien you magically spawn but have no hives whatsoever.

Gives you a good idea of what a map looks like, plus its place names.

84n44n · May 2003

i know that, but i want to know if %L is also usable when sv_cheats is on 0... because if it is on 1 i bet Cheating Death will kick my **** of the server. ah well ill test that first.

obuh · May 2003

<b>sv</b> _cheats is a server-side variable. So if you join a server with sv_cheats set to 1, it won't affect the game at all.

84n44n · May 2003

i see... well then i hope it wont effect the correct working of %L.

84n44n · May 2003

hmmz... i tried this all by adding the location "loading bay" to ns_hera. But whenever i try say %L it just displays %L and not the location. this reminds me of %H for health and %A for armor not working either. maybe NS just doenst support this all?

FlyFlown · May 2003

%l dont work in NS... :/ sorry m8

Ollj · May 2003

On voogru.com servers this works.

and if you like scripts try my "yellocation" script for quick alerts, and not just to say your location.

84n44n · May 2003

%L really should work in NS 1.1 then... letting your teammates know where you are in a quick way is very important, especially in a game like NS...

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (84n44n @ May 11 2003, 01:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> %L really should work in NS 1.1 then... letting your teammates know where you are in a quick way is very important, especially in a game like NS...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Sorry if I sound flippant but I think Voice Comm serves that purpose.

84n44n · May 2003

the yellocation thingies seem cool but i'd really prefer something that displays ur location.

speaking about voogru.com.. i tried getting on there but i get a message about "shell.mdl" (doesnt appear long enough to be able to read it) and then "could not complete connection attempt". which isnt fun. also get it on a few otehr servers. anyways, thats anotehr story.

if location dont work, is there any way to get the location on the map you are at? like, the loc files ive seen contain locations described with 3 numbers. anyway to get those three numbers?

for example (from an AHL loc file):
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-533 483 -1531 "lower level, water"</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

MrPink · May 2003

Many people have suggested it...probably won't be in 1.1 but I wouldn't be at all suprised to see it in a future versoin.

84n44n · May 2003

hmm my problem is i simply don't understand what people say thru voice comm, because of the bad quality of either my soundcard or their mics, and also that i don't have a mic myself. And also that my headphone is broke at the moment and my mom doesn't like it if i set my sound to loud.

84n44n · May 2003

right... %L or %H dont work in op4, svencoop and HLDM for me, not even with developer 1 and sv_cheats 1... which makes me thing theres another problem., with my PC specifically. anyway, i really want a way to tell people my location without having to lose focus on the game, by that i mean navigating through menus or typing long sentences, stuff like that.

Zel · May 2003

no, those things are part of the mod. they work in tfc and ahl, but none others.

it would be great if NS had it in some future version, preferably 1.1

to those who say voicecomm, i guess youre a single child, some of us cant be shouting at our PCs all day. what i mean is, i wouldnt be caught dead talking at my monitor when anyone is around!

ZupiCo · May 2003

Actually, I think %L, %A, %H and so on are completly mod-related, I don't think it's something wrong with your computer.
But there are plugins to metamod for this, wich for example voogru use on his servers.

84n44n · May 2003

well just been to Voogru.com NS server, %H and %L don't work <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

84n44n · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>say_team "text"

echo text to the screen of team members only. A percent sign followed by A, H, or I in the text will be replaced by your player's current Armor, Health, and ID'd player, respectively. For example: say "I have %A armor, %H health, and am staring at player %I" will look like "I have 45 armor, 97 health, and am staring at player CoolGuy".
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

This is from a list of commands for HL ( <a href='http://half-life.gamehelp.com/console/all.html' target='_blank'>http://half-life.gamehelp.com/console/all.html</a> ) and it does insinuate that this works for all of HL...

DarkWulf · May 2003

FLF has this feature too!

and SI does, but you need a client hook. but people don't seem to mind it that much.

anyway, it doesn't seem to work in NS currently. lol, and your testing confirmed it. I guess it was supposed to become a feature in all of HL but never did?

localhost2600 · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>well just been to Voogru.com NS server, %H and %L don't work </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

he did write a server-side plugin for this to work, dont know if its still running. This is something i've been lookin for, for a while, as voice comm tends to get too cluddered sometimes, and ya never know what kinds of problems peopel are hfaving with their sound.

84n44n · May 2003

well it should really be on the feature list for NS 1.1 then <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

for now i'd like to know how to retrieve those coords. maybe in some way with some ingenious CFG's and lots of scripting i might still be able to make somethin like this... i have some PHP , JS and basic experience.

by the way, does anyone know if there is some sort of a conditional clause in Half life scripting? like IF or so, or CASE maybe? haven't found one as of yet.

Church · May 2003

screw that. I'll shout at my monitor anyday. It works wonders.

BeRzErKeR · May 2003

Day of Defeat also has those working, although it isnt quite as useful as it was in 3.1 since the mappers ingeniously changed the location names to something stupid like POINT_AXIS_SOMETHINGORANOTHER. Bugs me off, expecially since I only found out about these commands a few weeks before 1.0 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

voogru · May 2003

I have a server-side plugin that the admins could install, it adds:

%l (location),
%a (armor),
%h (health),
%r (resources).

Fully automatic on the server-side, no .loc files needed since it ties itself to the NS location system.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>well just been to Voogru.com NS server, %H and %L don't work <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

its case sensitive. %l not %L

84n44n · May 2003

man i LUV U :o

every server should install this right away :o unless 1.1 will have it built in of course, then its bit of a lost effort.

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