Was It Really Programmed By A Single Person?

White_Kite_Fauna · May 2003

Hi,

I read on the C.Cleveland web site that the complete game was programmed by him. (I do not count the art work, etc. which are probably like 70% of the game - only programming.) Still the programming seems to be too big piece of job to be done by 1 person. If it is so, that's amazing!

I wonder if there is more information about the process?

Venmoch · May 2003

Yes Flayra coded version 1 all by himself

Quite an achievement

Gerby · May 2003

Flayra is my hero

Khaim · May 2003

All the 1.00 code was done by flay.

The models were done by Bathroom monkey, Beaner, and Squeal Like a Pig.

The team writer is Paris.

Max is another programmer that was hired to help out after 1.00's release(dont bother lookin around for him he rarely posts, and usualy in the dev forums).

The comm chair/hive voices are done by the voice actress who did starcraft's dropship pilot.

The music was done by Jeremy Soule.

Superfly did the Sound effects.

Various people did Textures(Squeal Like A Pig mainly).

Maps were done by: Manah(Caged),KFS(Eclipse), Relic25(Bast), Merkaba(Hera), Ken20Banks(Nothing), TommyD(Tanith), and Devildog(Nancy).

<a href='http://www.readyroom.org' target='_blank'>RR.org</a> was done by MonsE, hes also the guy who got the word out to all you thankful fools, and got all the mirrors for the patches and day 1, in other words he did the PR work.

Mojo and Def_One did the animations, speaking of Def_One check out his site, <a href='http://www.def-one.com' target='_blank'>here</a>.

That evil guy Joev did this site and admins it.

That is about it, there are a LOT of minor contributors not listed here that you can find on <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/team.html' target='_blank'>this</a> page.

P.S. I beat ya to it Coil <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

I'll edit this more as I get more accurate information.

coil · May 2003

NS has since picked up a second coder, by the name of Max. But Flay coded 1.0 entirely by himself.

RyoOhki · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The comm chair/hive voices are done by the voice actress who did starcraft's dropship pilot.
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I KNEW I'd heard that voice somewhere before! But the same ACTRESS did the hive voice?! Wow, I always thought it was some 60 year old who'd smoked 10 packs a day his whole life <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

But seriously she has some real talent. Can't believe a female did the hive voice...

Speaking of Flayra's achievements, I must play Empire Earth one of these days...

porp · May 2003

Haha...you dont have to smoke to sound like that. It's, like, pitch-shift DSPs and other audio ware.

Gliss · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Khaim @ May 8 2003, 08:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The music was done by Jeremy Soule.
 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
That sad music that plays when Aliens win? And the music on the Natural Selection main page?

Also, what's Empire Earth like? I never knew Flayra participated in the making. It's a pretty good game, I think, but I only got to watch people play it. What's it like?

FireStorm · May 2003

Actually, he hasn't CODED it but MODIFIED it from the HL SDK. (Yeah, he made BIG modifications)
So it's not 100% his code, even if he changed it a lot.

The SDK has many ready things you can use and it speeds up your work so one person can program a mod.

FlyFlown · May 2003

man its huge, flayra and the whole ns team really rock. Very very nice work guys

Frogg2 · May 2003

BTW Max is very secksi

lochness · May 2003

if you guys havent played Empire Earth yet, and you like games like Age of Empires, i recomend trying <span style='color:white'>(no, they won't <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>)</span>, it right away. That game is like AoE on steroids. You start in the stone age like any other, but there are like 15 ages between that one and the last one, which is some crazy super sci-fi futeristic setting with battle mechs and flying robots etc. And for once the AI of the game actually puts up a good fight, so it can take you hours on a game to actually win. Definetly 2 thumbs up.

St0nkingByte · May 2003

Yeah Empire Earth is a great game. It can be had for a mere pittance nowadays, definetly worth the money. I'm not a big RTS fan but I've spent many nights playing it and turning it off thinking it was 11pm and I've got work in the morning only to find it was 2am! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

taboofires · May 2003

All the code differences between Halflife and NS 1.00 (massive changes), and likely most of the changes between 1.00 and 1.1 are Flayra's work. That's quite a hobby. It still wouldn't be the same without the impressive map design and very engaging artwork, though.

Dadden · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frogg2 @ May 8 2003, 09:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> BTW Max is very secksi  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
pics please <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Cronos · May 2003

Actually, Flayra is a figurehead, the real code work was done by an army of trained monkeys pounding away at C++ on their respective keyboards. Flayra is a fraud and has fooled you all...

Of course he did all the code <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> **Bows to Flayra**

include · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Khaim @ May 8 2003, 08:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
The comm chair/hive voices are done by the voice actress who did starcraft's dropship pilot.

 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Do you mean the Terran Wraith? The dropship pilot is a female...

Khaim · May 2003

I know thats why i said actRESS, female, not male.

Cronos · May 2003

No, he clearly stated terran dropship. It's the same actor, good thing too cause I love the CC and hive voiceovers, as well as the SC dropship <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

include · May 2003

oops

I thought you meant the COMMANDER voice... not comm chair... heh sorry

Gelantious · May 2003

<a href='http://us.imdb.com/Name?Minella,%20Lani' target='_blank'>http://us.imdb.com/Name?Minella,%20Lani</a>

She's been in alot of games.

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

Magnificent stuff - I consider that guy a genius. I love this game and must count it as one of Half- Life's best mods so far. Counter-Strike included.

That_Annoying_Kid · May 2003

*respect for Charlie...rising...even more*

Charlie you did an excellent job with NS, and so did the rest of the team

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Sinister · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gelantious @ May 8 2003, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><a href='http://us.imdb.com/Name?Minella,%20Lani' target='_blank'>http://us.imdb.com/Name?Minella,%20Lani</a>

She's been in alot of games.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Argh! Why ever do I leave the forums at all? Now that you beat me to it, I dont get to look smart. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Then again, who am I trying to impress? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Frahg · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (St0nkingByte @ May 8 2003, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yeah Empire Earth is a great game. It can be had for a mere pittance nowadays, definetly worth the money. I'm not a big RTS fan but I've spent many nights playing it and turning it off thinking it was 11pm and I've got work in the morning only to find it was 2am! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I had this problem. That's why I put a clock just behind and above my monitor. Now I get to sleep like a normal person...

<a href='http://www.ikea-usa.com/product_presentation/subcat.asp?id=423' target='_blank'>http://www.ikea-usa.com/product_presentati...bcat.asp?id=423</a>

--Frahg

Iced_Eagle · May 2003

Flayra did all of the code in NS (using the SDK) and Max and Flayra are coding 1.1... BTW Max if you see this have u coded anything else besides the r0x0r5 model orientation??? and has Flayra or Max attempted first person orientation... two questions i wanna know <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> and yes Empire Earth is a great game

Jabba_The_Hunt · May 2003

So Coil didn't do any work on NS?

So is he (you, if your name is coil) just an evil forum admin?

coil · May 2003

I did the tech tree in the manual. ^^

voogru · May 2003

** I take offense for him. Walk a mile in his shoes then say such uninformed things. **

MonsieurEvil · May 2003

Hey, and I got no credit for the installer code, the forums, the SQL, or the bug database! RIP-OFF!!!!!!

Heh. I kid, I kid...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

voogru · May 2003

:O My post was edited! Evil.

And Im sorry. Next time Ill keep my mouth shut.

Was It Really Programmed By A Single Person?

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