Cheating Already Ruined Ns.
Ollj
our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
<div class="IPBDescription">...ways to detect them.</div> My last 5 games on Voogru (forces model consistency) were ruined by cheaters.
This zip includes 2 demos about 2 of them.
<a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/cheater12.zip' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/cheater12.zip</a> ("playdemo cheater1" in console)
- The first one is at least funny to watch because of his "knife-aimbot", he knifes half of the alien team nonstop instead of just shooting all of em - wich not mean that he does not shoot the rest too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> .
He also might have a Wallhack, TONS of scripts..., bad attitude and NEVER build or protected something.
- The second one is just a stupid aimbot, he NEVER missed any single shot.
He bunnyhops when he is alone and camps the main hive to death from the begining of the game.
Possible wallhack here, too. (As alien he killed all marines in the game before)
<b>I found out a SIMPLE way to find out cheaters BECAUSE an aimbot is nothing without ammo....</b>
...there are 3 Kind of armory humpers:
- The ones that are new to the game and die all the time.
- The ones that defend Bases most of the time.
- The ones that rush all the time without diing or defending (thoose definitely use aimbots and such).
When you rush all the time without diing much BUT without armoury humping you have no aimbot - <b>aimbot users always want full ammo</b> and they beg for it really hard !!!
Aimbot users die the best way when they get outflanked from the side while they aim at something else.
Aimbots are soo stupid.
Whenever your team gets owned to death, averagely high with pistols by just 2 differend people go spectator and record this pople.
Whenever an aimbot user gets killed quickly 2 times in a row without killing at least 6 enemys the player leaves criing.
This zip includes 2 demos about 2 of them.
<a href='http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/cheater12.zip' target='_blank'>http://www.df5jz.de/Ollj/cheater12.zip</a> ("playdemo cheater1" in console)
- The first one is at least funny to watch because of his "knife-aimbot", he knifes half of the alien team nonstop instead of just shooting all of em - wich not mean that he does not shoot the rest too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> .
He also might have a Wallhack, TONS of scripts..., bad attitude and NEVER build or protected something.
- The second one is just a stupid aimbot, he NEVER missed any single shot.
He bunnyhops when he is alone and camps the main hive to death from the begining of the game.
Possible wallhack here, too. (As alien he killed all marines in the game before)
<b>I found out a SIMPLE way to find out cheaters BECAUSE an aimbot is nothing without ammo....</b>
...there are 3 Kind of armory humpers:
- The ones that are new to the game and die all the time.
- The ones that defend Bases most of the time.
- The ones that rush all the time without diing or defending (thoose definitely use aimbots and such).
When you rush all the time without diing much BUT without armoury humping you have no aimbot - <b>aimbot users always want full ammo</b> and they beg for it really hard !!!
Aimbot users die the best way when they get outflanked from the side while they aim at something else.
Aimbots are soo stupid.
Whenever your team gets owned to death, averagely high with pistols by just 2 differend people go spectator and record this pople.
Whenever an aimbot user gets killed quickly 2 times in a row without killing at least 6 enemys the player leaves criing.
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Took him less than six seconds to get from south loop to marine spawn. I wish i had a demo
Only if it's obvious because I don't enjoy kicking and won't kick someone who isn't cheating but only really good.
i'm not sticking up for your suspected cheaters, but pelase get a little more evidence before throwing blame around, maybe the player is just good.
i'm not sticking up for your suspected cheaters, but pelase get a little more evidence before throwing blame around, maybe the player is just good. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
"by our standards"?
You know I wouldn't kick someone for being 60 10.
I would kick someone for being 10 60 if he bunnyhopped like mad, has speedhacks, etc.
I don't look at the scores for kicking. I look at their attitude.
oh and I also kick people that are "muhahahaha I r t3h pwnr0r I R 60 10 and skulkz0ring! j00 all suck j00 have bad standards!!!"
Real men dont need high FPS.
oh and I also kick people that are "muhahahaha I r t3h pwnr0r I R 60 10 and skulkz0ring! j00 all suck j00 have bad standards!!!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
agreed. attitude is everything.
The continued miss-use of the word 'script' is really starting to bug me. There is a very simple definition of the word as used in FPS communities, 'script' has been clearly defined and understood by everyone for years. Why has it suddenly been changed to mean 'Something that i think is a cheat'?
The highlight of that demo is your comment that included the words "reload script". Hilarious. Ranks almost up there with the guy standing infront of the armoury trying to restock his knife.
The points in those demos you directly commented on are infact some of the least suspiscious. If i were you, i would focus on cheater2's tendancy to switch targets from a skulk to a resource tower before he has killed the skulk, rather than the fact that he fills his LMG up completely... (:rolleyes:)
Here is what it does:
Features:
* New Aiming System
* Nice NS Vecs
* Speed Hack
* Full E.S.P
* Tons of Wallhacks
* Stats Reporting
* Sound E.S.P
* Extra Blood ( ewwww alien blood <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
* No Recoil
* Zooming ( Finally that stupid scope on the Marines gun has a purpose <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
* Winamp Controls
* Class ESP
* Auto-Vec ( EXPERIMENTAL)
* Bone Aimbot with Sno's Bones
* "elite" Vecs by me ( Jessen )
* Great Vecs by Windows Dude.
* Great new Command menu by Windows Dude
* Webbed ESP ( A little buggy, detects Lag outs, people who stop for awile etc. etc. )
* Automatic Parasiting ( Automaticly Parasites people *NOTE* You can't attack with this on )
* Personalized Say Stats: Give your say stats personality by choosing from one of the following 3,
1: Basic, Everyday Person
2: Esentric 'cool' person, who likes to talk "elite"
3: Total all out ****, stuck right up and knows he's "elite".
Copied from the post from the creator of the cheat.
Plain sucks tbh <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
BUT - this is also said - Nope... it's detected by VAC & C-D
Which is nice for 1.1, due to VAC being there, so I assume it is a client side hook.
Valve = erik at valvesoftware.com
<b>Note:</b> <a href='http://erics@valvesoftware.com' target='_blank'>erics@valvesoftware.com</a> is better for this
UA = info at unitedadmins.com
Do the rest of us a favor and put the cheat out of our misery.
I got accused of cheating yesterday because *shock* I actually know how to use a pistol effectively :rolleyes:
oh and I also kick people that are "muhahahaha I r t3h pwnr0r I R 60 10 and skulkz0ring! j00 all suck j00 have bad standards!!!" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
agreed. attitude is everything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
attitude is everything, and if you think someone is cheating, tell an admin, send them a demo and let them decide
be sure to put the demo in your NS directory, and then open NS, go to console (must have console enabled) and then type playdemo nameofdemo.dem
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hope this solves your problems
I really don't understand the motivation to enter a game with an aimbot and remove any depdendence on skill and the resulting satisfaction that comes from improving on that skill. I'd just feel so cheap.
Oh well... I've seen a few people shoot me I'd swear were using aimbots... just from the way they spun around in a completely fluid, mathematical trajectory towards me and 'pow pow' I'm dead from 70 / 30 as a skulk. There was also one time we had a fade in our base and we were filling him full of lead while he's taking down one of our structures and he didn't seem to care at all... just went about his merry way until it was down then focused on us.... pretty suss to me. Anyways, I never directly accuse anyone, but if I really do think what I saw was uber suss I mention it as being suss to see what their response is and write their WONID down for later inspection. I have a friend who admin's for a server so whenever they are on that server I ask him to look out for them.
All in all, I don't much mind cheats... I just think their really sad, pathetic people who are wasting everyones time, including their own.
Knife aimbot?? I'd be glad to have a marine use a knife aimbot against a skulk, even if it is always pointing in the right direction.
Wall hacking? Wall hackers do not stand there looking at the wall; they can walk around like every other marine, only to know when aliens are coming. And seeing as the marine team had virtually every resource nozzle on the map, there'd be no reason for either "cheaters" to not have motion tracking. And that last kill near fusion hive was hardly the result of a wallhack. Seeing as the other vents were cleared out by fellow jetpackers, the vent the gorge was hiding in had to be where the last alien was hiding. Sometimes logic might look like a cheat.
The only thing that I can somewhat agree with is that cheater2 has godly aim. But I urge all admins to type host_framerate 0.006 in the console before he starts shooting, and you can notice some very non-aimbot actions... firing the first shot not even close to the target, firing on an empty clip, not firing at the closest target, looking around empty corners, et cetera.
While I won't be as condemning as the original poster in saying that the 2 players were or weren't cheating, I will say that you have no credibility in labelling others as "cheaters" when you have little understanding of scripting/client proxies. The facts need to be straight before a conclusion is made. And that's my rant.
From what i see of cheating sites,they have vac-proof cheats out usually within 24 hours of the vac being updated......vac ISNT updated every 24 hours...so.....how useful IS it?
anytimeadmin.com, call on an admin at any hour of the day
I think that servers should have enough admins to cover different hours of the day
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What about the many many good players out there that CAN go out with a full ammo stock and actually empty it into skulks on a consistant basis before dying. So they cheat too just because they can shoot? I don't know why so many people have this attitude but just because someone can kill very very well before dying DOES NOT MEAN THEY CHEAT.
That being said, those demos don't seem to be definate proof that either of them are cheaters, however they are suss. The first cheater could have just been a kid (hence why he didnt help the team but just wanted to kill) with really good aim, and fast reactions as kids can have. The 2nd one is basically the same, very good aim but not "100%" definate aimbottage.. And the part at the end where he tried to shoot the gorge... and you said a good player would aim for the lerk... hahah...
>>> Just because you can't aim as good or have as fast reactions as some other ppl might have, doesn't make them a cheater <<<
I know a guy from when i used to play cs, and i coulda SWORN he used an aimbot... his aim was insane, first shot headshots the majority of the time from sniper range etc. But i know him IRL, watched him play, and it was all natural skill. He doesn't use any scripts or mods or anything... he just has excellent reactions/aiming. I've been accused of aimbotting a few times now, usually from one of the victims of my mojo-rampages. I just get into the 'groove' and aiming seems easier, and can take out many many aliens without dieing. Other times I'm absolutely shite <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh yeah Ollj you have scripts/hacks mixed up. Knife script? Reload script? The armoury weapon-switching-to-get-ammo-faster thing is as simple as pressing your lastinv key every second. Scripts are only as harsh as firing multiple pistol rounds with one key, or binding jump to jump and duck at the same time etc. That's about the extent of scripts.
/rant off
ps. btw i'm not defending cheaters, i just get **** off when every skilled player suddenly becomes a target for llamas to accuse of hacking because they got owned.
True.
I know few clan members that have really good aim. And if i see them on server, i dont even think about attacking against them in to a distance with skulk, because i know they will kill me.
I have my momemts too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Once i was camping outside the fusion reactor hive in that big room (not sure for the name....cargo, i think) and i killed 8 skulks, two lerks with pistol and lmg and a gorge with a knife in the hive room, when i ran out of ammo. All of them started to whine about that iam cheating and stuff...