Enough With The Saboteurs.enough I Say!

QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
<div class="IPBDescription">You COULD say this is a rant....</div> I canna believe i just wasted 2 hours playing NS....or rather TRYING to play NS.It certainly wasnt fun,as a game is supposed to be.What happened?

Round 1 : Asked marines to relocate,gave them a waypoint,50% just kept moving around in the location where they spawned,staring at the walls and occasionally popping off a shot or 2.25% ignored the waypoint and played rambo.12.5% decided to camp in base demanding a shotgun.The other 1 marine went to the hive,for all the good it did.Needless to say,aliens had fun eating marines who just couldnt stop staring at the walls.

Round 2 : Newbie rushes to the CC,sits in there,and after about 20 seconds or so askes "How to comm?".He just sits there,refusing to logout.We eject him,but then the skulk rush hits and we all die while we are hitting the eject button.

Round 3 : 2nd newbie rushes to the CC and plonks 2 IPs down instead of relocating to cargo bay hive.Then he insisted on making a turret farm.When i demanded to know why he was sabotaging the marine team,he said "relax lar game only wat.....".Tried to eject but everyone else was just too busy playing rambo to care.

Round 4 : Same newbie as round 3 comm went gorg about 3 minutes after i went gorg.Started spamming OCs in the middle of the sahara desert(aka NOWHERE),leaving the skulk defence at port engine short handed(another skulk went gorg for a RT).4 marines rush in and kill me just as i finish the RT and the 1 skulk there.PG goes up,game over.

Round 5 : Comm refused to relocate to cargo hive.Fine,its still a workable strategy.Then he hands out mines to a NSPlayer instead of people who know how to use them.Mines end up all stacked into a nice little spot on the floor.He told us to get to cargo hive and secure it.Okay.Hmm he didnt assign any defenders.Skulks waltz in and starts eating the base.He manages to get a CC and stuff in cargo.Skulks waltz into cargo hive and owned everybody.Marine playing rambo in power silo gets job to build CC.Skulks waltz into power silo and owned everyone,and this time,no res to relocate.

Round 6 : A newbie went gorg and planted a SC.Yes its possible to win,but its gonna be a LOT harder.He then proceeded to spam SCs EVERYWHERE for no good reason.The marine team made up of mostly vets didnt give us a chance.Aliens lost.

Round 7 : 6 people out of 7 marines decided to be complete jackasses and play rambo.When i mentioned this fact on open chat,they started hurling obscenties at me,blaming me for their inability to obey orders.They didnt realise how many people were laughing at their stupidity.

Round 8 : 4 marines at the end of a REALLY long corridor (its the one above viaduct hive)somehow managed to let 2 skulks kill them,when the skulks came from the other end of the corridor.The skulks didnt even strafe or jump.I saw everything from spec mode.That very long range and they STILL couldnt kill the skulks.The 4 marines kept blaming the comm for their inability to aim.Not again.......We lost the seige base and fades were bombarding our base in moments.

Round 9 : Marines were so busy knifing each other they let the skulk rush kill them./me rolls eyes.Naturally they blamed the comm.

Round 10 : A lamer clan took up half of the marine spots and did nothing but sit in base and boast about how "lewt" they were and how they had "coolz cheatz".They also kept trying to knife the skulks that were attacking the base and kept crying "omg so-and-so h4x!!!!".You get the picture.

Round 11 : 2 NSPlayers on opposite teams(one on marines one on aliens) refused to use teamchat.They kept blurting out whatever their team was doing at the particular time,asking for orders,etc,etc.Their teammates tried to get them to use teamchat,even going so far as to do step-by-step describations,but they just kept repeating "I no understand".Aliens couldnt ambush marines because their locations were repeatedly broadcasted,and marines couldnt build RTs because their locations and descriptions were repeatedly broadcasted.Aliens eventually won because its much harder for marines to take down RTs than for aliens.

I am fething tired of people sabotaging games like this.Some have the most ABSURD reasons :

-Its only a game!
-Because i want to
-And god came down from above and commanded me to blah blah blah
-Because everyone else other than me sucks!i am elite!OMG ph33r me!!!!
-Because i want to **** you off

NS is getting popular.And you know what this does to lamers.Draws them like bees to honey.Im starting to not like NS because of the very simple fact...if i cant play the game properly due to lamers,why should i try and wastet ime on it?

Oh yes and if you read through the 11 examples i listed above you will notice one very very very interesting fact :

Most of the lamers were either n00bs(newbies dont do this,they just want to learn how to play the game,NOT **** people off)or pretending to be newbies so that people would "excuse their behavior".Admins and server owners....please take note of this.Players,also,please take note of this.

P.S.In case you were wondering on the point of this post,its mainly found in the last paragraph.
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Comments

  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    So what did u do in all that time... Its like u didnt do anything aswell, and besides I thought the map changes after 2 rounds or atleast after 3...

    Also, ever hear of /quit and searching a new server?
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    edited April 2003
    1. You can't win a game by yourself if everyone else is a moron
    and 2. He never said the maps diden't change
    Anyway...
    Enough flaming

    I have acctually come across all ( maybe -1 or 2 ) of those examples and I agree it's scaringly annoying
    hehe
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    edited April 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jower+Apr 3 2003, 10:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jower @ Apr 3 2003, 10:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Stupid reply...
    1. You can't win a game by yourself if everyone else is a moron
    and 2. He never said the maps diden't change
    Anyway...
    Enough flaming

    I have acctually come across all ( maybe -1 or 2 ) of those examples and I agree it's scaringly annoying
    hehe <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok so I see u didnt read it all (so why did I?) But hes talkin about ns_nothing till round 8...
    8 rounds without a mapchange? WTH?

    [edit]

    also u say, my reply sux becuz how can he do anything with his team being a moron, but hes only talkin about his team and he joined everytime the wrong team, this is so fucxking ****, he talks about hes observing guys that cant aim, but then he could aim himself, also he says skulks pwned EVERYBODY, so thats himself aswell, he shoudnt rant this bs.

    [/edit]
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Hmm...
    Ya...
    Diden't think of that...
    Face remains I 1. Still think you're stupid cause I think everyone is and 2. you can't win a game by yourself
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jower+Apr 3 2003, 11:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jower @ Apr 3 2003, 11:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm...
    Ya...
    Diden't think of that...
    Face remains I 1. Still think you're stupid cause I think everyone is and 2. you can't win a game by yourself <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    my reply was actually about him leaving the server, but I dont believe him at all...
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Well so what ?
    He's a n00b
    hehe
    N00B !
    There
    I still find it amusing
    hehe
  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Depending on how long the admins have the maps set to, and how quickly the skulk rush owns the marines, 8 rounds on a single map can certainly happen.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Hmm, he didn't mention a map in round 1 or 2. Round 3 mentions nothing. Round 4 does not imply a map. Round 5 mentions nothing again. Round 6 and 7 do not refer to a map. Round 8 is nothing. Round 9, 10 and 11 also do not refer to any particular map. Sounds like he did his best. I have also seen this happen alot lately. I'm just hoping that 1.1 will help to fix some of the issues that cause this.
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sandrocky+Apr 3 2003, 11:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandrocky @ Apr 3 2003, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Depending on how long the admins have the maps set to, and how quickly the skulk rush owns the marines, 8 rounds on a single map can certainly happen. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sure if all the rushes succed, ut this happens more on custom maps, I never saw this happen on a normal map since they are big and if marines could walk till viaduct and stuff like that it means some of the rounds are not ultra short...
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    I actually went to another server,2 in fact,thats why the incosistencys.Also i didnt list them in ORDER.

    @Dizzy : You dont read very well do you?A few of them were due to being in the wrong team....yes.....majority were a small group of individuals **** people off.Also yes,i can aim.In fact the 12th round of NS i had was FINALLY a proper game,in that 12th round i got numerous kills.This is impossible if i cannot aim.And is there something wrong with me being unable to fight off 6 skulks by myself?
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    edited April 2003
    Sandrocky: He said he played for 2 hrs
    MMZ>Torak:Round 4 says "port engine"
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    oops my bad <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Still I see nothing wrong with his post.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    you buy yourself a hmg and go walkies <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    I see nothing wrong with it either
    I think it rox <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    His second one is annoying though
    hehe
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    I hate it when after the marines win a few games in a row, one of the "i play aliens all the tim people" quiclkly joins marines, gets ni comm chair, recycles rt, then spams ccs everywhere to make aliens win.

    Or just sabotaging commanders to begin with. Yea sure we can all eject him but hey, by that time the damage has been done.

    In terms of the first post, did your team ever try to help the newbies and tell them how to do somethnig right, or did you just waste time yelling and screaming at them for their mistake? I think there is a differernce then being a newbie and messing up then being one of the saboteurs I just described.
  • Green_MeatGreen_Meat Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7331Members
    Pick a new server. All you need to do is find a good server where the majority of players are there to play and have fun. Look for servers with Cheating Death running on them. Not because your worried about cheaters, but because it tends to scrape off the lowest common denomition of players. Look for servers where you can usually find an admin on duty. Don't write off NS because some players want to ruin it for the rest of us, instead take pro-active steps to limit your contact with such players.

    I've had excellent luck in finding some good servers:

    The -={DG}=- Clan runs a pretty tight ship. So does the FoTR (? - can't remember if that name is right) clan. And to lesser degree the Mayberry games server (custom maps - weeds out the lamers pretty quick).

    Just look for a good bunch who regularly play on the same server, get in there and play your game (sounds like you'd make a good addition to any team), and make some freinds there. Keep showing your face there again and again, and pretty soon, when a sabteur shows up, the admins and other players there will be much more willing to listen to you and help out. The trick is admin-on-duty.

    Sorry about your bad experience, swing -={DG}=- sometime, we'll give ya a good game.

    GSH aka -DG-GM
  • JBoyJBoy Join Date: 2002-09-27 Member: 1357Members
    edited April 2003
    Thank you for that great post, Hartman. I haven't been playing NS for a while (No reason. Just because. Still a great game), so I'll take that advice as well. I whole-heartedly agree with you question (dizzy uses words like "sux" and "becuz" so he is obviously flailing his arms around and hitting the keyboard in a manner that produces an incoherent babble of letters on the screen). I mean come-on! Sometimes that kind of stuff can be funny, but the stuff you listed was just stupid. I mean there are ways to screw with a game that everyone can laugh at. If you (or I for that matter) ever run into a game like that again- where the whole team is being dumb- then join in and see if you can't lead the team in something that is actually entertaining.

    Get the whole team to hide in a vent somewhere and hold off anything that comes. Or get everyone to spawn outside the map if possible. If someone is going to get screwed, it might as well be the other team right?
  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    I would have left the server after the 1st round.

    Relocation isnt a good strategy in itself, and then do it when you only have 1 marine there...
  • outerfroggy1outerfroggy1 Join Date: 2002-10-01 Member: 1401Members
    A given game of NS is only as good as the people playing it... if they are morons then find a diff server
  • SootySooty Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11416Members
    edited April 2003
    Be nice to our lady =)
    She's really unforgiving to newer players... but currently whenever I comm (we're both from singapore, though I play solely on pagn), my marines listen to me. So... it's not our server ^^

    P.S tell us the yucky server... 'omg so & so h4x!!!!!'. lmao
  • killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:WErqVuxZeQYC:questmodels.com/americas_ppp/images/2000cry.jpg3' target='_blank'>http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:WErq...es/2000cry.jpg3</a>

    heh heh, just kidding. I did think the post as funny though. ALl that was needed to be has been said though.
  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    yes, NS is REALLY about finding good servers with admin present most of the time. these are the Old Fogies [OldF] server rules for OM (Over Medicated)

    1. COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR TEAMMATES.

    2. IF YOU ARE A NEW PLAYER, PLEASE DO NOT ENTER THE
    COMMAND CHAIR, OR EVOLVE TO GORGE. Only do so
    if you are familiar with the game. If you're not new
    to the game, but new to Commander or Gorge,
    ask for help.

    3. GORGES: ASK the team which structure to place first.
    First gorge MUST be asked if you want to evolve to gorge.

    4. Good sportsmanship and a gentleman's spirit
    ought to be preserved throughout.

    try and join servers that have similar guidelines ;D
    i'd recommend getting out of any server that gives you such a bad experience and start hunting for good ones <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    cheers, hope you have better luck
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    Do what I did; become a ranking admin on a server so you can stop the flow of bull-**** lamers that try to ruin everyones fun. Pretty easy.
  • XaniethXanieth Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7280Members
    If I have a server, I'm banning any n00bs for 1 week. Anybody who is not a n00b but is a total jackass is perma-banned. Server will be monitored with Stalinist perfection.
  • Vash7h3StampedeVash7h3Stampede Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14140Members
    Whatever happened to marines actually following your orders. I think that the marines are losing a lot of their teamplay aspect. They have fallen apart to where the only teamplay they do is the bare necesity to play. It is such a shame when you are playing and someone goes ramboing and loses their equiptment or when they don't follow orders and lose us a critical location.

    --sigh--
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Xanieth+Apr 3 2003, 03:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xanieth @ Apr 3 2003, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Server will be monitored with Stalinist perfection. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    w00t! good idea, or just become admin and kick the adminslap the BS out of the lamer lamas who clame to be leet...
    or you can just let the go rambo becuase they make good skulk food for me
    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    Once I get my job settled. Maybe i'll put up a server..with STRICT server rules. Anybody like in those examples are banned 5 ways from Sunday heh.
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Apr 3 2003, 11:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Apr 3 2003, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate it when after the marines win a few games in a row, one of the "i play aliens all the tim people" quiclkly joins marines, gets ni comm chair, recycles rt, then spams ccs everywhere to make aliens win.

    Or just sabotaging commanders to begin with. Yea sure we can all eject him but hey, by that time the damage has been done.

    In terms of the first post, did your team ever try to help the newbies and tell them how to do somethnig right, or did you just waste time yelling and screaming at them for their mistake? I think there is a differernce then being a newbie and messing up then being one of the saboteurs I just described. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some tried.They were promptly stymied by the newbies suddenly pretending not to understand english.

    /me pokes sooty I had no idea you were registered at this forum lol.
  • ElrondElrond Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8923Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Question+Apr 3 2003, 10:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Question @ Apr 3 2003, 10:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS is getting popular.And you know what this does to lamers.Draws them like bees to honey. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bees aren't drawn to honey, they are drawn to nectar. they make honey <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    i do hear you; there is an influx of people who don't love the game like we do. we are just gonna have to learn to weather the storm. pick a server with some regular faces and some good admins on it, and stick to it.
  • 10RoUNdTOmMYgUN10RoUNdTOmMYgUN Join Date: 2002-05-03 Member: 572Members
    edited April 2003
    All u have to do is find a good server and guess what...........................you're a reg on the server and lame games like that don't happen. 1% evil servers dont cut it. Pure evil is where it's at.
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