[mreq] Tactical Ops Oicw.

3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
<div class="IPBDescription"><^click^</div> <img src='http://members.shaw.ca/brianton/commandconsole.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>I was wondering if somebody could get this gun converted:
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  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    edited March 2003
    I can send you the file if you want. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Edit: OMG! I just noticed this gun looks like the M32A2 5.56mm Combat Assault Rifle (CAR) - Unreal 2 Gun.
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    take a close look at the Grenade launcher, it was heavily influenced by the OICW
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mouse+Mar 18 2003, 07:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mouse @ Mar 18 2003, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> take a close look at the Grenade launcher, it was heavily influenced by the OICW <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've noticed, but I still like this slick look on this gun. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    *bump*

    Help please. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> It doesn't seem like anybody even seen my topic. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jim+Mar 18 2003, 11:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim @ Mar 18 2003, 11:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it's been done. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It has? Where? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Edit: Oh god... I didn't do a search... I found the topic but the link is dead. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    As does the MA5B....
  • VecdranVecdran Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2323Members
    Why do people like this piece of crap?...
  • RicoRico Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13888Members
    it's one hell of a big gun.
  • LinkLink Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1510Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do people like this piece of crap?... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    BIGGG!!!!
    Built in gren launcher
    Video scope with mods
    Big FAT rounds
    Heavy, so godsdamn accurate
    Anything on the business end of this is dead

    Sorry, what was your question again?


    I'm sorry, but this gun is the wasps nipples and you know it.
  • Commander_KittensCommander_Kittens Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14255Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 10:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 10:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do people like this piece of crap?... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree sooooooo much!

    You want a REAL big gun, do a websearch for the H&K GMG or the US military's Mk-19. these are both belt fed 40mm freaking AUTOMATIC GRENADE LAUNCHERS!!!!!!11!!1!11!one
  • VecdranVecdran Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2323Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Link+Mar 19 2003, 08:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Link @ Mar 19 2003, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do people like this piece of crap?... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    BIGGG!!!!
    Built in gren launcher
    Video scope with mods
    Big FAT rounds
    Heavy, so godsdamn accurate
    Anything on the business end of this is dead

    Sorry, what was your question again?


    I'm sorry, but this gun is the wasps nipples and you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Big. VERY big. - That is NOT a good thing.
    "Video scope with mods". - Wooo. Do you really need to be able to play Solitaire when you shoot people.
    Big "Fat" rounds. - 5.56 Nato is NOT a big round. It's relatively small, but has penetration.
    Heavy. - That's a good thing?
    "Godsdamn" accurate. - You would know HOW?

    Yup. You are a moron who doesn't know what you are talking about. From what you just posted, I doubt you've ever even fired a gun before.
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    ... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> stop it you guys!
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Agreed actually, I would not find this a worth replacement for any of the guns on NS..

    wHy n0+ w3 @dD t3h gR4n4D3 L@uN(h3r t0 t3h p!$+0l???/
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    ahh, but you miss-understand, you can make this one gun... ALL your guns in ns...

    welder is built in the optics, GL is bottom barrel, HMG is just a twist of a knob away, and LMG is defauly... pistol... another twist of a know... and your knife?.... just toss the gun at the skulks....



    i understand you infacactuation with the gun, but it won't get converted unless you do it yourself....
  • JaegerJaeger Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10202Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 07:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Link+Mar 19 2003, 08:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Link @ Mar 19 2003, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do people like this piece of crap?... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    BIGGG!!!!
    Built in gren launcher
    Video scope with mods
    Big FAT rounds
    Heavy, so godsdamn accurate
    Anything on the business end of this is dead

    Sorry, what was your question again?


    I'm sorry, but this gun is the wasps nipples and you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Big. VERY big. - That is NOT a good thing.
    "Video scope with mods". - Wooo. Do you really need to be able to play Solitaire when you shoot people.
    Big "Fat" rounds. - 5.56 Nato is NOT a big round. It's relatively small, but has penetration.
    Heavy. - That's a good thing?
    "Godsdamn" accurate. - You would know HOW?

    Yup. You are a moron who doesn't know what you are talking about. From what you just posted, I doubt you've ever even fired a gun before. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not that big... to my knowledge the HK G11 is larger, the FN-2000 scope module is on par with the integrated target designator, and I you know as well as I the AN/PVS-4(or 10? Educate me.) is freaking huge...

    Said video scope is easy enough to manage that everyday Joe Grunt can simply "Lase, lift, fire."

    I'm pretty sure the "fat" rounds he was referring ot were the 20mm smart munitions.

    Heavy? It's roughly 8 pounds, and the recoil is a bit higher than a standard G36E (In fact, the attached AR is essentially a G36E without stock and sights)

    Anything on the business end? An intelligent high-tech gun is no substitute for proper training.
    It's not total crap either, just Aliant really needs to step back and take a good look at how "survivable" their platform really is.

    ----------

    Okay, I want this for LMG. I don't like having the same model for multiple weapons (I like being able to tell immediately 'Hey! I got an HMG!') but this gun just <b>looks </b>so futuristic, how can you turn it down? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    Gun! I need the gun where is it?! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • VecdranVecdran Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jaeger+Mar 20 2003, 02:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jaeger @ Mar 20 2003, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 07:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Link+Mar 19 2003, 08:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Link @ Mar 19 2003, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Mar 19 2003, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do people like this piece of crap?... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    BIGGG!!!!
    Built in gren launcher
    Video scope with mods
    Big FAT rounds
    Heavy, so godsdamn accurate
    Anything on the business end of this is dead

    Sorry, what was your question again?


    I'm sorry, but this gun is the wasps nipples and you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Big. VERY big. - That is NOT a good thing.
    "Video scope with mods". - Wooo. Do you really need to be able to play Solitaire when you shoot people.
    Big "Fat" rounds. - 5.56 Nato is NOT a big round. It's relatively small, but has penetration.
    Heavy. - That's a good thing?
    "Godsdamn" accurate. - You would know HOW?

    Yup. You are a moron who doesn't know what you are talking about. From what you just posted, I doubt you've ever even fired a gun before. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not that big... to my knowledge the HK G11 is larger, the FN-2000 scope module is on par with the integrated target designator, and I you know as well as I the AN/PVS-4(or 10? Educate me.) is freaking huge...

    Said video scope is easy enough to manage that everyday Joe Grunt can simply "Lase, lift, fire."

    I'm pretty sure the "fat" rounds he was referring ot were the 20mm smart munitions.

    Heavy? It's roughly 8 pounds, and the recoil is a bit higher than a standard G36E (In fact, the attached AR is essentially a G36E without stock and sights)

    Anything on the business end? An intelligent high-tech gun is no substitute for proper training.
    It's not total crap either, just Aliant really needs to step back and take a good look at how "survivable" their platform really is.

    ----------

    Okay, I want this for LMG. I don't like having the same model for multiple weapons (I like being able to tell immediately 'Hey! I got an HMG!') but this gun just <b>looks </b>so futuristic, how can you turn it down? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah. It seems to me that they are taking too MANY things out of the hands of a soldier.

    I bet you this will never become standard issue.

    #1: Semi-Auto 6 rn mag 20mm launcher? 20mm is SMALL as far as grenades go, and considering what happened in Vietnam, soldiers will LOVE to waste ammo on firing these as fast as possible.

    #2: Too expensive for mass production.

    As far as GAMING goes, it's too fricking huge. Takes up the entire lower right corner. I'll stick to normal sized guns thank you very much.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    your not going to be happy with me....

    can you send me the file again?
  • auto354auto354 Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12750Members
    edited March 2003
    Even though its so "huge" ever heard that it has a whole separate weapon on the bottom of it?

    "EDIT"
    I didnt make this picture.
  • HavannaHavanna Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11510Members
    About the heaviness and accuracy, just something to keep in mind. Heavier guns lead to a soldier carrying less supplies of other kinds, but heavy guns negate recoil very well. Typically, the heavier a gun is, the easier it is to control the recoil, and thus aim. I'm betting that's what the previous poster meant by mentioning its size, and then directly mentioning it's accuracy. A lighter gun is more maneuverable and a grunt can carry more in terms of equipment, but the recoil is a problem.

    A very good example would be a cut down m4a1 compared to a regular one.
  • MCN00bMCN00b Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10693Members
    better example is the FG42
    light manueverable gun with massive recoil due to the huge caliber of the mauser round fired
    that seperate weapon is the assault rifle part of the OICW
    and btw, the gun is not too much heavier than the current M16 with m203 GL
    you dont need a big explosion with nades
    they are indirect fire weapons, so just lob it in the direction of the enemy - and with the comp targeting system, it will be highly accurate
  • darrenjmdarrenjm Join Date: 2003-03-19 Member: 14714Members
    I don't like guns with stuff I can't use. Yes, yu could make seperate GL and HMG/LMG Models, but you only get one at a time, so you would be like "YES! Now I got a Grenade Gun! And all my 5.56mm OICW ammo has evaporated!... Wait- THAT SUCKS..."

    BTW, this goes for scopes and grenade launchers and such, just my opinion.
  • MCN00bMCN00b Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10693Members
    you must want to slit your wrists everytime you play with that default LMG then eh?
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    hahahahaha lol ... its so funny to read that.... the oicw is heavy? who said that? this gun looks heavier then it is.. a fact is that a soldier with an m16/m203 system and ammo have to carry much more weight than a soldier with an OICW plus ammo

    1) M29 (OICW)s weight of 14 pounds is 10 to 30% less weight than the current M16/M4/M203 systems. When comparable features such as Thermal Weapon Sight, Optic Sight, Rails, Aiming Light, Leaf Sight and Laser are added, the standard infantry soldier carries 15 to 19 pounds.

    2) M29 (OICW)’s 20mm HE round weighs only 1/4 pound compared to the M203’s 40mm round weight of 1/2 pound – a 50% comparison weight savings with substantially more effectiveness.

    3) 18 rounds of 40mm ammunition in a soldier’s vest weigh 9 pounds. If a soldier was carrying 18 rounds of 20mm the weight is 4 1/2 pounds.


    i got here a nice pc with very early OICW configuration alternatives (late 1990s).

    1 - combined 5.56mm rifle and 20mm launcher (present configuration);
    2 - 20 mm launcher with detachable 4.6mm HK PDW submachine gun;
    3 - 20mm launcher configuration with an unknown HK rifle
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    Whoa <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> what is your job sheena? cause you seem to be a weapon specialist. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • UnCoNtRoLaBLe_ChAiNsAwUnCoNtRoLaBLe_ChAiNsAw Join Date: 2002-07-28 Member: 1019Members
    Actually, i read an article about this gun and it will become standard issue in 2007.

    btw, i think this would be fin cool for the hmg.
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    edited March 2003
    I have the gun now, its for the GL. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    This gun works for almost everything like the GL cause this gun kinda specializes in high explosives and works for the LMG 2 cause the gun also shoots bullets. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    lol..

    and i have one question...why nobody did post a pic of the phase 3 prototype of the aliant techsystems oicw? there are just pics of phase2.. and 1..
    phase 3 was the planing target, in this state the gun uses much more advanced electronics than the older models.the targeting computer uses the much smaller,lighter,and power saving ccd cam technology.. not this bulky raped hyphen industrial corp. prototypes...
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    and heres the present stage of the current tested one..
    this oicw is already implemented into the landwarrior system..
    the oicw´s t.a.s. is linked to the h.m.d. on the soldiers helmet.. this way he sees trough the weapons "eyes"..
    that means he can hold the weapon around corners or over walls and see whats there,without showing to much of himself
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