Possible Crash Fix!

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  • BrutusBrutus Join Date: 2002-10-20 Member: 1555Members
    For the sound loop crash I lowered my AGP setting in the bios from 4x to 2x and it never crashed again.
  • Kayos2k3Kayos2k3 Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11776Members
    hi i have pretty much the same problem as all whit NS just freezeing after like 30-50min i get a error 0xc0000005 i looked it up but i aint smarter about what to do does anyone know meybe something i can do to slow it down or fix the crash? i have a AMD 1800+ 256RAM Geforce 4 64MEG 420MX and i think i have Via sound card i have updated my drivers to my vid card and installed via4-in-1 pack i have been mixing whit my drivers to my in bios and vid card no luck yet funny thing was that when i started to play like over 30days ago it worked fine the crashing started like 1 week ago i reinstalled HL and NS a lot of times i formated my cpu 2 times well if i find something out to make it better i let u guys know <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Civic+Dec 1 2002, 08:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Civic @ Dec 1 2002, 08:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->then the ns team said they aren't going to work on the mod again for a while, so looks like ns will be one of those bad mods... unless they decide to make 1 more update<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please don't start rumors. Also, don't even try to blackmail the ns team into 'making one more update' by warning them that they will become a bad mod if they don't.

    Oh and FYI, the NS team are currently working on v1.04, which if you were wondering, will be out when it's done.
  • Kayos2k3Kayos2k3 Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11776Members
    re its me again i think i found a fix to the NS crash well i played for 2 hours at least whitout crash sound everything working ok so far i changed some things in the bios but i dont think that makes any diffrance what i did was i downloaded Directx 9.0 and i think its works fine for me played 2 maps like 1 hour a map and it dident crash at map change meybe it will work for someone ells 2 meybe its not a fix only time will tell and good luck <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    anyways here is a link if i want to try it out <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.asp</a>
  • AznKnucklesAznKnuckles Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11796Members
    Ah i have same problem man my XP wont stop crashing it freezes and suddenly restarts all by itself i nearly wanna throw my computer out the window. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AznKnucklesAznKnuckles Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11796Members
    Alright i tried running NS in SOFTWARE mode it just crashed to the desktop rofl
  • ZeriamZeriam Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11602Members
    Natural Selection doesn't support software mode.
  • Kayos2k3Kayos2k3 Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11776Members
    well i tryed Driectx9.0 and i only crashed yesterday 2 times in 12 hours <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> today i played for 4 hours still havent crashed meybe not a perfect fix but u can sure play a few games befor u have to restart your cpu and crash if i find a perm fix for NS i let u guys know to good game to stop playing <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AznKnucklesAznKnuckles Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11796Members
    Well it stop crashing it just crashed to the desktop rofl imma try CS in SOFTWARE mode to see if it will crash <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TacT_RaDoXTacT_RaDoX Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12348Members
    I've noticed acpi causing lockup problems for people running 2k/xp, try a clean install with it disabled. Other things to look at, especially if other games are crashing "once in a blue moon" as someone put it is your bios, try reducing your ram timings, changing aperture size, disable unnecessary devices. Check your device manager for conflicts, do some research on your hardware and find out if other people are having similar problems. I remember all the whining that was going on at the infogrames forums with ut2k3 demo and the full release, most people's systems were just unstable. Bios flash perhaps? Compatablity problems, inadequate psu's, the list goes on

    silly things such as the win2k ms patch for amd cpu's could be causing lockups... <a href='http://www.amd.com/Agreement_Handler/1,,871_2367_116,00.html?redirectURL=%2Fgb%2Duk%2FProcessors%2FTechnicalResources%2F0%2C%2C30%5F182%5F871%5F2367%2C00%2Ehtml' target='_blank'>http://www.amd.com/Agreement_Handler/1,,87...367%2C00%2Ehtml</a>.

    I never had any problems with any of my games because I know my system is stable. Obviously quirky things like dark monitor's with certain drivers are to be expected, this is STILL BETA after all!

    98se - conflicting irq's?

    Don't just tell developer's to fix it, YOU fix it, do some research on your system, have a look at your motherboard manual, read reviews about your hardware.

    go to <a href='http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com' target='_blank'>http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com</a> and download anything that could potentially help resolve issues you might be experiencing and possibly don't even know about

    If all else fails it's time for some trial and error with drivers/bios revisions. Do you have a faulty stick of ram perhaps!

    The only problem I had was the dark monitor, I corrected that with powerstrip temporarily, although not an ideal solution, finally I swapped over to the 40.72's and haven't even needed to fire it up since.
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->

    =-for the record-=
    ECS K7S5A MB
    512MB samsung pc2100 ddr ram
    XP1800+ @ stock 1.53Ghz
    !SBLive 5.1 dd sound
    Gainward 650XP gf4 ti 4200 G.S 128mb dvi in/out & tv out - 40.72 detonator oc'd to 300/550
    2x hd
    dvd and cd drive
    300w generic psu
    3x case fans (2 exhaust, 1 intake)
    win2kpro & SP3
    DX 8.1
    Bios is still in it's original state. (AMI)
    ram timings set aggressively - ultra -2 -2 -2
    aperture size - 64MB
    video bios shadowing/caching disabled
    onboard agp/sound - disabled
    ecc checking - disabled
    All ide devices set to use the same dma mode (I've seen a few people suffer because of this)


    hopefully that might help someone, anyone out there still having problems, gl.
  • SkitZoFrenicSkitZoFrenic Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13252Banned
    I dont know if its my computer or what...but it happens all the time. For no reason at all...I lose sound. Sure...it would be OK if u JUST lost sound...but when i lose sound...it makes computer like...LAGGY..or something. it acts like i have 1000 ping! is it just my computer, or is it Half Life?
  • theBIGonetheBIGone Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13099Members
    i had all of the before named problems <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> and reinstalled every thing . and now it seems to be working correct ..<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> cool
  • Dr_SmaShDr_SmaSh Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14072Members
    My comp also freezes after some time (5min or 2h) and i dont know why...

    I never had any problems with CS or DOD but TS si freaking me big time. I love this mod very much but i cant play it like this anymore. I tryed evry thing...

    c433@541MHz
    Voodoo 3 3000
    420 MB ram
    SB

    + i use Wicked GL (for more FPS)

    Please help...NS team do something about this...quickly
  • str0ngb4dstr0ngb4d Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14216Members
    edited March 2003
    I've been reading this - and I seem to have everyones symptons put together. This bug has only happened after NS was installed, and I've re-intalled HL multiple times and it still only happens when NS is installed. It will happen in *any* mod - I will quite simly just freeze. My computer will completely stop responding, and I will be left frozen at the last frame, everything still in place. An odd sound always comes out of my speakers - kind of like a record scratching.

    What's very odd however, is the timing. It's not my imagination, I actually kept a log. I went an entire *month* with no problems. And then I had a period of 36 hours with 14 crashes....some preceded by >1 hour of gameplay and others <1 minute.

    I seem to have everyones crashing symptons + some more - the working fixes. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    [I]Update: Whoops, what I forgot is that I do NOT have cards that everyone is discussing. I have an onboard AC or whatever they're called on a K7 mobo.
  • Ic3ManIc3Man Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dan Forever+Dec 31 2002, 10:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dan Forever @ Dec 31 2002, 10:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do all the people with this wierd sound repeating crash bug have creative sound cards?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I dont think that this problem is Creative related. I first had an Advance onboard soundchip and it crashed every 15 minutes. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> . I now have an Audigy card and it still crashes <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> (And yes i disabled the onboard card).

    PS. im not sure if im the only1 with this problem but sometimes midgame instead of crashing my pc reboots without warning
  • LoRDxDeMoNLoRDxDeMoN Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14636Members
    if you have win xp and experience the sound loop crashes, try playing the game in compatibility mode (windows 98/me)

    it fixed my game, could fix yours too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • predatory_kangaroopredatory_kangaroo Join Date: 2003-01-12 Member: 12225Members
    Well, i have XP and an audigy... never had this problem (maybe my horrible lag sumhow fixes it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Ic3ManIc3Man Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--LoRDxDeMoN+Mar 26 2003, 03:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LoRDxDeMoN @ Mar 26 2003, 03:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you have win xp and experience the sound loop crashes, try playing the game in compatibility mode (windows 98/me)

    it fixed my game, could fix yours too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    how can u play an game in compatibility mode?
  • LoRDxDeMoNLoRDxDeMoN Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14636Members
    right-click on NS's shortcut, select properties, compatibility should be one of the tabs
  • Ic3ManIc3Man Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13875Members
    edited April 2003
    ok thx this really helped my problem. now i actually can play hours without crashing.
  • RapidfyreRapidfyre Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15367Members
    I just read all the posts, one things for sure... Almost everyone has a Creative! Sound Card.
    Another thing is Almost everyone seems to be using a Geforce.

    I used to run Natural Selection forever, it wasn't until I messed with some Display
    Settings in BSPlayer and Added a new 120 Gig Hard Drive till I started getting the freeze.
    I thought for the longest time I was the only one getting it. I have met several people
    getting the error just recently. I would imagine it's a bug conflicting with the sound card
    since everytime I freeze I get the last sound I hear being looped forever until I Alt-tab
    out and Windows automatically shuts down the game. I uninstalled Natural-Selection.
    That didn't work, I uninstalled Half-Life. That didn't work. Finally I just said I love this
    mod too much and Reformated my computer. Suffice to say I am royally screwed, I lost
    all my Software and Programs and I still only get to play the best Mod out there for
    5mins to 2 hours because of the freezing.

    Computer spec's:
    Dell
    1 GHz
    512 SD RAM
    SB Live! Wave Player
    Geforce 4 Ti 4400
  • Ic3ManIc3Man Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rapidfyre+Apr 9 2003, 10:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapidfyre @ Apr 9 2003, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just read all the posts, one things for sure... Almost everyone has a Creative! Sound Card.
    Another thing is Almost everyone seems to be using a Geforce.

    I used to run Natural Selection forever, it wasn't until I messed with some Display
    Settings in BSPlayer and Added a new 120 Gig Hard Drive till I started getting the freeze.
    I thought for the longest time I was the only one getting it. I have met several people
    getting the error just recently. I would imagine it's a bug conflicting with the sound card
    since everytime I freeze I get the last sound I hear being looped forever until I Alt-tab
    out and Windows automatically shuts down the game. I uninstalled Natural-Selection.
    That didn't work, I uninstalled Half-Life. That didn't work. Finally I just said I love this
    mod too much and Reformated my computer. Suffice to say I am royally screwed, I lost
    all my Software and Programs and I still only get to play the best Mod out there for
    5mins to 2 hours because of the freezing.

    Computer spec's:
    Dell
    1 GHz
    512 SD RAM
    SB Live! Wave Player
    Geforce 4 Ti 4400 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    try the compatibity mode if u r using xp. it really helped my problem. i want 2 thx lordxdemon for this solution for the second time
  • RapidfyreRapidfyre Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15367Members
    edited April 2003
    I tried the Compatibility fix last night, I updated all my drivers video, sound etc.. One guy said he had a bad stick of RAM and he removed and it worked. I recall removing a RAM stick from my computer and ever since I took it out I've had the crash. I decided to put the RAM back in. I thought it was fixed, Sure enough . Blam.. Frozen. I removed the RAM I had in before and just used the new RAM I had. I played problem free for 3 hours. I thought it was fixed. 30 Minutes into the next day , CRASH! I ran Compatibility mode, I turned my 3d sound Acceleration down. Yet - I still crash. I heard typing "nosound" in console helps, but it only seems to slow it down at random times. All I have to say is, this is one nasty **** bug. Hope someone figures out the fix soon ;(
  • Chr0n1cChr0n1c Join Date: 2003-03-24 Member: 14844Members
    Mine only crashes when I have mIRC running, when mirc isn't open I can play forever but when mirc is open screen freezes and need to reboot.
  • jgslickjgslick Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13401Members
    My ns works fine for all practical purposes, but it will freeze at these two times:

    1) I try hitting escape to go back to the main menu while in a game or connecting

    2) If I try connecting to a game through the usual internet games list, and the connection fails, instead of getting kicked back to the selection menu it freezes

    Its not a huge problem, i got windows 2k pro and i can ctrl-alt-del and kill the program and start it up with no problem, its just an annoyance.
  • da_sAUCEda_sAUCE Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15415Members
    this is the what happens to me...ill start up ns...deedeedoo...going along...until i try to join a server...my screen will go black....then a few seconds later...the ns "starting network" screen will show up...only one problem...it takes up half the screen and is in wird colors like purple and green...then my comp freezes up for eternity...and i have to shutdown...any one else?
  • UKCZeNnUKCZeNn Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15848Members
    i also get a crash when pressing Escape. i sometimes get crap sound at some point during a game (not too often) and want to exit to menu then rejoin as i used to but since i updated my system it now blacks out the screen forcing me to restart my system. the only way of sorting the sound then is by exiting through console.
    any ideas?
    2.4 athlon
    512M corsair ram
    A7N8X delux mb (using onboard sound)
    win xp pro sp1
    radeon 9700
    120G HDD

    (newbie member but definately not newbie player on ns)
  • bobertoboberto Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6306Members
    after months and months ive finally solved my crash problem. i tried lowering agp to 2x, messing with video, reinstalling halflife, multiple drivers... and then i realized it must be a sound problem because the sound stutters and repeats then it crashes to desktop.

    i have a sb live!, i simply disabled it in device manager and used my onboard sound and have not had a crash since. so chances are, if it crashes with your sound repeating like that, it is your sound card, hopefully youre lucky enough to have some kind of alternative.

    i think this could be a problem with creative cards. i was crashing a lot in dod 1.0 as well, but this has fixed that problem also.
  • Ic3ManIc3Man Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--boberto+May 4 2003, 06:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (boberto @ May 4 2003, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    i have a sb live!, i simply disabled it in device manager and used my onboard sound and have not had a crash since. so chances are, if it crashes with your sound repeating like that, it is your sound card, hopefully youre lucky enough to have some kind of alternative.

    i think this could be a problem with creative cards. i was crashing a lot in dod 1.0 as well, but this has fixed that problem also.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I like to comment on that. i first had an onboard sound system, i believe it was the a97 something card that comes with an MSI MB. it crashed all the time. then i was so <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> of that i bought an Audigy card to see if it would "solve" the crashing problem. but it didnt solve anything <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> . i really dont know if it is an software or hardware problem.
  • EnemyWithinEnemyWithin Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5572Members
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--[UKC]ZeNn+Apr 26 2003, 12:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([UKC]ZeNn @ Apr 26 2003, 12:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i also get a crash when pressing Escape. i sometimes get crap sound at some point during a game (not too often) and want to exit to menu then rejoin as i used to but since i updated my system it now blacks out the screen forcing me to restart my system. the only way of sorting the sound then is by exiting through console.
    any ideas?
    2.4 athlon
    512M corsair ram
    A7N8X delux mb (using onboard sound)
    win xp pro sp1
    radeon 9700
    120G HDD

    (newbie member but definately not newbie player on ns) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is a known problem with the ATI Catalyst v3.2 drivers. Get the new v3.4 drivers.
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