Voogru Server

Archzai · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">My feelings</div> Hi,

I played on Voogru server and i must say, friendly buncha ppl and some pretty interesting ideas...

id jus like to see wut other players think about the changes...

i personally think some of the addons arent that great... the healing armory is a good idea.... but it causes players to spam around the armory EVEN more.. beuacse whne they lose 4 measly HP they wanna heal.... one skulk came down today and took out the entire team

there are a lot of pluggins that seem to lag the server.... normally in coronas or fist of ra or HT condomless brothel server.... i get 200 ping in the beginning of the match.... but for some reason i had a constant of 400-500 ping in voogrus..

hmm more interesting gameplay... but isnt it bad to have all these plugins if they arent in the CAL and that wil call for different tactics?

well jus my ideas wanna see wut others think

and sorry admins if this is against some type of forum rule or if u dont want us to mention voogru...

RyoOhki · February 2003

Well the health station idea has been discussed to death without much of a resolution, and it's been specifically requested on the suggestions and ideas forum that they not be spoken of. I don't really like them, it tends to seriously unbalance things towards the marines, as they can get free health when the gameplay is structured to marines haveing to pay for healing. That's about all I know about Voogru's servers, I don't really go in there.

Catpoker · February 2003

its their server, let them do as they please, i like to hop on their servers just for fun when i dont feel like playing a REAL game <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

0range · February 2003

i think their should be some disclaimer message when you join the server that says that they have modded ns... Think of the newbies!

Nemesis_Zero · February 2003

Orange just summed the official gripes with Voogrus mods up. It's painful to get hatemail for stuff you're not responsible for <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Aside from that, we all know how fast the other Voogru discussions went south. Show me you can do better.

ElectroKiwiMonkey · February 2003

um... there IS a disclaimer, last I checked. Something along the lines of "This server is running blahblahblah mod".

Nemesis_Zero · February 2003

Well, apparently, it's not obvious enough :|

Ollj · February 2003

it is
good how it is.

voogru · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Archzai @ Feb 8 2003, 04:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> there are a lot of pluggins that seem to lag the server.... normally in coronas or fist of ra or HT condomless brothel server.... i get 200 ping in the beginning of the match.... but for some reason i had a constant of 400-500 ping in voogrus..
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Server 2 has some bad code (which i have rewritten and fixed, and it will be on thier shortly)

Pings on server 1 are MUCH much better since i cleaned up the code.

CForrester · February 2003

Voogru, I can never get onto your servers, hehe. I'd like to see what you did with it one day.

Major_Chrome · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0range @ Feb 8 2003, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i think their should be some disclaimer message when you join the server that says that they have modded ns... Think of the newbies!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
The disclaimer takes up most of your screen on connect <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

heathenSlayer · February 2003

In 1.03 you could go to ready room and all your resources would be distributed back to the other aliens. I think voogru made a plugin to prevent this? But then he also made a plugin that lets you donate resources manually. I'm confused.

TychoCelchuuu · February 2003

The only time I've ever been in one is when I loaded up NS on a friend's system to show him. I realized that it would be a bad idea to introduce him to Voogroo first, so I just left. Never really had the need to go back.

Archzai · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Feb 8 2003, 08:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Archzai @ Feb 8 2003, 04:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> there are a lot of pluggins that seem to lag the server.... normally in coronas or fist of ra or HT condomless brothel server.... i get 200 ping in the beginning of the match.... but for some reason i had a constant of 400-500 ping in voogrus..
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Server 2 has some bad code (which i have rewritten and fixed, and it will be on thier shortly)

Pings on server 1 are MUCH much better since i cleaned up the code.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
voogru quite and interesting server u hvae there....

i think ur idea of aliens being able to recycle building etc. is an interesting idea...
yet i have one request..

the medic armory is a good idea for comms who arent willing to give meds or are slow... but as i stated earlier... when i played on ur server our WHOLE team was huddled around the armory beacuse they were 10 HP off or something stupid like that.. well one skulk jumped in and screwed us all over!! >.< haha

welll i was sitting there but because i had double everyone's ping i was getting screwed over <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> haha

i think for ping in NS... the max u can get up to before being a dysfunctional marine is low 400s if ur lucky... but thats pushing it.... mid 300s is acceptable <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Rabid_Llama · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Archzai @ Feb 8 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Server 2 has some bad code (which i have rewritten and fixed, and it will be on thier shortly)

Pings on server 1 are MUCH much better since i cleaned up the code. [/QUOTE]
voogru quite and interesting server u hvae there....

i think ur idea of aliens being able to recycle building etc. is an interesting idea...
yet i have one request..

the medic armory is a good idea for comms who arent willing to give meds or are slow... but as i stated earlier... when i played on ur server our WHOLE team was huddled around the armory beacuse they were 10 HP off or something stupid like that.. well one skulk jumped in and screwed us all over!! >.< haha

welll i was sitting there but because i had double everyone's ping i was getting screwed over <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> haha

i think for ping in NS... the max u can get up to before being a dysfunctional marine is low 400s if ur lucky... but thats pushing it.... mid 300s is acceptable <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Well, you say that the health-giving ammo station gives the aliens an advantage, and some others say that it gives the marines an advantage, so I guess it evens out <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> (Okay, maybe not, but any marine advantage is negated by the alien resource donation, which I think gives ALIENS the advantage)
Also, where do you live? I ping just great to the server (it's in Dallas, just like me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> ) so maybe it's just distance/poor routing?

relsan · February 2003

The first thing I see when I join voogru's server are commands on how to use all the new abilities and resources. That's enough of a disclaimer for me. You read a little of those instructions and you get the idea that its not a normal server. They don't mention the lightning though. THE LIGHTNING! AH THE LIGHTNING IS BACK ARGH!!!

Silver_Fox · February 2003

<a href='http://www.linkline.com/personal/nuthouse/voogru.jpg' target='_blank'>/me taps four mountains</a>

Thansal · February 2003

www.voogru.com he has a thread on all of his changes, and you know what, he has nerfed stuff HA

1) armoury stores 1000 health, and must be relpenished (1 med pack = 50 rez)
2) in 1.03 there was a exploit, you left laiens and your rez went in the pool, you came back and you had 10 more rez (rinse repeat), basicaly all voogru could do was slow down the proces (which he did)

there are many other new toys ON BOTH side, honestly I wish ppl would check stuff out before flaming ;D, oh and any one who dosn't see the splash scrn needs to get their eyes checked ;D

Hey, voogru, is there any way you could distribute your server to other who want to run it?

Rabid_Llama · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 8 2003, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <a href='http://www.linkline.com/personal/nuthouse/voogru.jpg' target='_blank'>/me taps four mountains</a> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
rofl <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
Edit: That's probably one of the geekiest things I've ever seen, too. NS reference on a magic card <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Ladyskunk · February 2003

Voogru's has quite a bit I love about it. It forces the Marines to move as fast as they can, as the Aliens can give their resources to whomever decides to go gorge, so the 2nd hive goes up much quicker. Once the 2nd hive is up, almost every time, they start asking who has the closest resources to go fade and they start giving that player the resources needed.

If the Marines don't move fast and try and lock down one of the hives, the game tends to end quickly, or not so quickly, depending on if the aliens decide to play with their dinner first.

Though the opposite has happend as well. Usually when the marines actually work with the commander rather than ignoring him.

Take care all, give'm hell.

LS

Infinitum · February 2003

Whats a constructive arguement daddy?

murta · February 2003

I must say it is very nice to see A Voogru discussion that hasn't turned into an all-out flamefest and it also seems that a fair few people do actually like playing there. There are still occasionaly bugs (as there are with NS) but since the admins play, and check the forums, so often, they're usually fixed swiftly.
I love how the sensory chambers cloak offense and defense chambers. It makes them alot more useful and stops gorges just dropping 3 sensory at the hive, purely for the upgrades. This way you'll see sensory chambers across the map. It also means that, as sensory chambers are still visible, gorges must think of a good hiding spot for the sens chambers and I personally love finding somewhere really cool to hide them
The Med armory isn't really unbalanced, it's nowhered near as fast a few defense chambers and leaves you open to attacks while healing. Comms still have to drop med-packs for you if you're out the base
The res sharing works 2 ways. It promotes team-play (sharing your res with your team-mates to promote the team's progression), but then again Aliens are supposed to be less team-orientated to Marines. Oh, and of course you'll get n00bs/llamas camping at the hive, sucking res out (think this is being worked on) or simply not sharing their res anyway. Also, the fact that you lose res when you diehas GOT to go. I wouldn't mind it personally, but you wouldn't believe the amount of times I've been in a game where the following has happened:
Me - "Guys, they're RIGHT OUTSIDE FUSION. Please, get the f**k out there or we lose"
n00b - "No way, i'm saving my res, I don't wanna lose any"
Me - "sigh" *rapes marine team by himself* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>
Then these llamas run in like vultures sharing the glory. It really is pathetic how selfish a hell of alot of players are. The way I look at it, if they're stupid enough to sit there and not fight because, *boohoo*, they might lose res if they die, then when they DO eventually reach Fade or whatever, they're just gonna die because they suck
What else? Beeping and flashing grenades,I think these are Voogru-only, grenades beep more and more until they explode and go from bright green to red. Makes it so much easy to see them, especially when marines are spamming large amounts

Thansal · February 2003

the colours are only if you have sense chambers

masterswordman · February 2003

My idea is for the game devs to put in a an option like (mp_healingarmory, etc.)

Savant · February 2003

Frankly I find server's like Voogru's highlight what the people WANT in the game. It's no different then on other servers that have '/unstuck' plugins. When there is a need for something, if the developers fail to pick up on it, then it's not surprizing that the community will create their own workarounds.

Regards,

Savant

ubermensch · February 2003

i commed once in vootgru's. the adming came in, wearing his flashy tag and all.

he also gave himself heavy armor and a grenade launcher and decided to take out one of the hives [satcom] on his own.

Teufel_Eldritch · February 2003

What I would like to see is...the Voogru mods on more servers. Unfortunately that will most likely never happen. =(

voogru · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 8 2003, 12:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <a href='http://www.linkline.com/personal/nuthouse/voogru.jpg' target='_blank'>/me taps four mountains</a>

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Please dont thread crap, I dont like the card but I havent made any comments agiast it.

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What I would like to see is...the Voogru mods on more servers. Unfortunately that will most likely never happen. =(

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I wont release the mods for 2 reasons:

1. I dont want players to be turned away from NS if they dont like my mods since probally a majority of the servers would at least try the mods. I would happily release my mods but I am unsure how Flayra would feel about it, And I dont want to step on anyones toes.

2. In the first flame thread about my server, a few posts asked me to never release the mods. I will probally stick to that and never release them.

Now, If I see ideas that are reasonable (and that are possible for me to do) I will try them out on my servers and see how people like them.

Currently the only idea I took from the suggestions forums is the sensory cloaking nearby offense/defense chambers.

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the colours are only if you have sense chambers
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The grenades glow right now all the time, tho they will be linked to the sensory chamber, I had them first linked to 2 hives but doing stuff like that can cause a lot of CPU since the way I was clocking the building coding wise. (Aliens would still see the buildings when they were "cloaked" but marines cant.

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Voogru, I can never get onto your servers, hehe. I'd like to see what you did with it one day.
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PM me in the IRC channel or contact me thru AIM/MSN/ICQ And ill make sure your able to get in.

<b> About the disclamer </b>

The connection message clearly states that the server runs "NSAdmin" and explains the features.

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1) armoury stores 1000 health, and must be relpenished (1 med pack = 50 rez)
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This was a special "Mode" for the armory when I was planning to release it as a small mod. I have changed my mind since then but its still there, just not enabled.

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there are many other new toys ON BOTH side, honestly I wish ppl would check stuff out before flaming ;D, oh and any one who dosn't see the splash scrn needs to get their eyes checked ;D
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^^Agrees, If you want to make comments about my server, at least play 2-3 rounds on the server. During different times of the day. That way you can get an idea of how things work. At least DOOManiac (the poster of the very first voogru flame thread) joined my server and saw how he didnt like it before making a thead about it.

Now people flame me by what they hear and not what is auctually on the server (I had people saying that I ran the laser sights mod... I dont like the mod nor is it installed (No offense to the creator tho)

KingKahuna[KKG]™ · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kilmster @ Feb 8 2003, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 8 2003, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <a href='http://www.linkline.com/personal/nuthouse/voogru.jpg' target='_blank'>/me taps four mountains</a> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
omg stop spamming -_-

oh yeah and uhh I agree.

>_<  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Why is kilmsler still flaming us? and voogru and I both object to that stupid card that was made...
I realize you can't stop these people from flaming all the time, but some seem to never get the message..

SniperSkunk · February 2003

I love playing on Voogru's servers for several reasons.

His 'retry' script (When you try to connect and it's full, it retries until you connect) was saving my finger from going limp from up-entering. Unfortunately I can't seem to get that to work lately <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

His changes for marines (Health from armory) help when you're early in the game and don't want to waste time with /kill, and don't want to waste res asking for a medpack.

His alien changes force your team to think more strategically; if you give all your res to the gorge, he gets stuff faster, but you have to wait longer before you get the res needed for fades; if you keep your res for yourself you'll go fade faster but dying means losing a little so you can't stay at 33 forever.

Myself I tend to let the other players give their res first, if the gorge still needs more I give him mine, if not I save for fade so that I can be sure to scare off a few light armor/LMG marines when hive 2 goes up <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Personally I would like certain parts of his script to be released to the general public (Namely, the 'view teammates HP/armor' code, and his unstuck code) but I do agree that the code that alters the game (Sharing res, armory dispenses health) should be released by Flayra and the official team if it's released at all.

Nemesis_Zero · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kInG kAhUnA @ Feb 9 2003, 12:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kilmster @ Feb 8 2003, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 8 2003, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <a href='http://www.linkline.com/personal/nuthouse/voogru.jpg' target='_blank'>/me taps four mountains</a> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
omg stop spamming -_-

oh yeah and uhh I agree.

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Why is kilmsler still flaming us? and voogru and I both object to that stupid card that was made...
I realize you can't stop these people from flaming all the time, but some seem to never get the message..  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
This is the second time you declare an innocent joke, which is by the way not even directed against you, but the way the community handles the mod, to be a flame.
Try smiling sometimes. I hear it works wonders.

Voogru Server

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