<!--QuoteBegin--voogru+Feb 9 2003, 01:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Feb 9 2003, 01:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wont release the mods for 2 reasons:
1. I dont want players to be turned away from NS if they dont like my mods since probally a majority of the servers would at least try the mods. I would happily release my mods but I am unsure how Flayra would feel about it, And I dont want to step on anyones toes.
2. In the first flame thread about my server, a few posts asked me to never release the mods. I will probally stick to that and never release them.
Now people flame me by what they hear and not what is auctually on the server (I had people saying that I ran the laser sights mod... I dont like the mod nor is it installed (No offense to the creator tho) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea I know....all Im saying is...its a damn shame that more ppl cant play on more Voogru modded servers. Have you gave any thought to renting servers? I mean if you arent going to release the mod fine, but plz give ppl the chance to have thier very own Voogru server in another manner. If you were to start renting servers today I might just rent one tomarrow. I would L O V E to have a Voogru modded server of my own. But like I stated before....this will most likely never happen.
On a final note...Reason #2 is lame. Let me explain. You are letting those that hold negative attitudes towards your mods control your behavior. I say screw them. Why do you care what those ppl think? Reason #1 is sufficient enough to not release if you wish not to. You dont need reason #2 as its logic is faulty anyway.
voogru's server is the best, since the armory also gives out health...man, that rocks so much. i wanna jump for joy everytime we win. i think voogru server is marine-happy server.
<!--QuoteBegin--Teufel Eldritch+Feb 9 2003, 12:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teufel Eldritch @ Feb 9 2003, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--voogru+Feb 9 2003, 01:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Feb 9 2003, 01:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wont release the mods for 2 reasons:
1. I dont want players to be turned away from NS if they dont like my mods since probally a majority of the servers would at least try the mods. I would happily release my mods but I am unsure how Flayra would feel about it, And I dont want to step on anyones toes.
2. In the first flame thread about my server, a few posts asked me to never release the mods. I will probally stick to that and never release them.
Now people flame me by what they hear and not what is auctually on the server (I had people saying that I ran the laser sights mod... I dont like the mod nor is it installed (No offense to the creator tho) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea I know....all Im saying is...its a damn shame that more ppl cant play on more Voogru modded servers. Have you gave any thought to renting servers? I mean if you arent going to release the mod fine, but plz give ppl the chance to have thier very own Voogru server in another manner. If you were to start renting servers today I might just rent one tomarrow. I would L O V E to have a Voogru modded server of my own. But like I stated before....this will most likely never happen.
On a final note...Reason #2 is lame. Let me explain. You are letting those that hold negative attitudes towards your mods control your behavior. I say screw them. Why do you care what those ppl think? Reason #1 is sufficient enough to not release if you wish not to. You dont need reason #2 as its logic is faulty anyway. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I do rent servers.... why you ask?
Personally, and these are just mine feelings, having spent a lot of time on Voogru and other 22 player servers. Voogru's server does a lot to balance things out. People mention that aliens giving resources is too much of an alien advantage, I disagree...since at 11v11 the marines get such a huge advantage in resources, I think the giving of alien resources makes for nice balance. I still see marines win about 75% of the time there when its not noob flooded.
My question for Voogru, did you also edit the marine resource to be a bit faster too? I swear to god, I just got off your #2 server, and the marines had 1-2 resource towers the ENTIRE game, and were spending res like crazy (tf's all over, phases all over) and STILL were able to get HMGs and Heavy Armor on us. It simply didn't make sense that with 1-2 res towers they could be pumping all that out (unless they never got upgrades, not sure here, but still). I'm just curious <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I must say that Voogru’s server seams to be the most famous (or infamous depending on your opinion <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ) server in the NS forum I haven't played on the server my self to be honest but judging from all these post you ether love it or hate it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
i in no way was trying to flame your server jus posting my own opinion.. and i left it open ended..allowing others to post their ideas....
i liked your ideas with the sharing res... its interesting.. allows a higher chance for surivival early game.... but does donating give ALL of it? i never got to play alien on ur server.....
ummm whoever asked me where ilive... i live in Hong Kong.. yup all the way in asia? why choose to play on american servers??
a) better teamwork. b) more organized... ie more team chat etc.... c) more experience... and its a higher level of teamplay and more challening cuz of the lag -.- .. haha
and no.. its only voogrus server.. but now that hes put a new netcode... i wanna try this weekend again... cant this week cuz of school <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ... but most of the other servers.. ie GWB, first of ra, and Coronas... i had moderate 200-350 ping until end game..... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> yup
voogru good job on ur mods... and i persoanlly dont approve of releasing it publicy... not because it isnt good... i htink the ideas are great.. but i think and i know that voogrus knows he should ask flayra first because it IS his project <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
good job flayra.. *clap*clap* ... whole level of higher gameplay in ur server <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and no.. its only voogrus server.. but now that hes put a new netcode... i wanna try this weekend again... cant this week cuz of school ... but most of the other servers.. ie GWB, first of ra, and Coronas... i had moderate 200-350 ping until end game..... yup<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its impossible to cleanup the netcode. All I did was fixed a function that was eating up all the CPU.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i in no way was trying to flame your server jus posting my own opinion.. and i left it open ended..allowing others to post their ideas.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Archzai, I did not take your thread as a flame at all, Its nice to see a non-flaming thread about the servers.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i liked your ideas with the sharing res... its interesting.. allows a higher chance for surivival early game.... but does donating give ALL of it? i never got to play alien on ur server..... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Resource sharing can be as much or as little as you want, its a command ("giveres x") where x is how much you want to give and look at a player to give em.
<!--QuoteBegin--nØthing+Feb 9 2003, 07:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nØthing @ Feb 9 2003, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is the address for your server Voogru? I'd like to stop by and give it a shot <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> 63.99.234.23:27015 But watch out, It's ALWAYS full (even right now x.x)
<!--QuoteBegin--Rabid Llama+Feb 9 2003, 07:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rabid Llama @ Feb 9 2003, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--nØthing+Feb 9 2003, 07:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nØthing @ Feb 9 2003, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is the address for your server Voogru? I'd like to stop by and give it a shot <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 63.99.234.23:27015 But watch out, It's ALWAYS full (even right now x.x) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Cheers! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--voogru+Feb 9 2003, 09:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Feb 9 2003, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and no.. its only voogrus server.. but now that hes put a new netcode... i wanna try this weekend again... cant this week cuz of school ... but most of the other servers.. ie GWB, first of ra, and Coronas... i had moderate 200-350 ping until end game..... yup<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its impossible to cleanup the netcode. All I did was fixed a function that was eating up all the CPU.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i in no way was trying to flame your server jus posting my own opinion.. and i left it open ended..allowing others to post their ideas.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Archzai, I did not take your thread as a flame at all, Its nice to see a non-flaming thread about the servers.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i liked your ideas with the sharing res... its interesting.. allows a higher chance for surivival early game.... but does donating give ALL of it? i never got to play alien on ur server..... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Resource sharing can be as much or as little as you want, its a command ("giveres x") where x is how much you want to give and look at a player to give em. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol voogru... it takes something REALLY stupid before id openly flame without proper reasoning...
jus a bit sad cuz i really wanted some good competition which ur server HAS... but my ping made the good challenge useles.. beacuse ny1 could kill me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> haha
well hopefully this weekend it'll work...
jus wondering... is there a full list of changes ur personally made on ur server so i can see wuts available at my disposal? thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I just don't want voogru's mods flying all over the place as it did for CS. I could never find a clean CS server. CS server mods weren't that bad, but voogru's totally alters the gameplay. I don't want to isolate myself to only 2-3 servers to play at. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
You couldnt find a non-Voogru server out of 10000+ CS servers? Even if Voogru were to release his mod for NS I highly doubt that even 1/3 of the NS servers would ever use it. You worry to much about to little. Quit exaggerating the supposed problem.
<!--QuoteBegin--ZERG!!+Feb 10 2003, 01:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZERG!! @ Feb 10 2003, 01:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just don't want voogru's mods flying all over the place as it did for CS. I could never find a clean CS server. CS server mods weren't that bad, but voogru's totally alters the gameplay. I don't want to isolate myself to only 2-3 servers to play at <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> it's not going to be released 'cos he doesn't want to step on anyone's toes. He does release little things like 'Idle Kick', 'Team Balance', 'Anti-Stuck' or 'Fireworks' but they don't alter gameplay. BTW T
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guess I should make one that actually insults voogru/his server/king ...
least that way, their complaints would be warented
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1. I dont want players to be turned away from NS if they dont like my mods since probally a majority of the servers would at least try the mods. I would happily release my mods but I am unsure how Flayra would feel about it, And I dont want to step on anyones toes.
2. In the first flame thread about my server, a few posts asked me to never release the mods. I will probally stick to that and never release them.
Now people flame me by what they hear and not what is auctually on the server (I had people saying that I ran the laser sights mod... I dont like the mod nor is it installed (No offense to the creator tho) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea I know....all Im saying is...its a damn shame that more ppl cant play on more Voogru modded servers. Have you gave any thought to renting servers? I mean if you arent going to release the mod fine, but plz give ppl the chance to have thier very own Voogru server in another manner. If you were to start renting servers today I might just rent one tomarrow. I would L O V E to have a Voogru modded server of my own. But like I stated before....this will most likely never happen.
On a final note...Reason #2 is lame. Let me explain. You are letting those that hold negative attitudes towards your mods control your behavior. I say screw them. Why do you care what those ppl think? Reason #1 is sufficient enough to not release if you wish not to. You dont need reason #2 as its logic is faulty anyway.
1. I dont want players to be turned away from NS if they dont like my mods since probally a majority of the servers would at least try the mods. I would happily release my mods but I am unsure how Flayra would feel about it, And I dont want to step on anyones toes.
2. In the first flame thread about my server, a few posts asked me to never release the mods. I will probally stick to that and never release them.
Now people flame me by what they hear and not what is auctually on the server (I had people saying that I ran the laser sights mod... I dont like the mod nor is it installed (No offense to the creator tho) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea I know....all Im saying is...its a damn shame that more ppl cant play on more Voogru modded servers. Have you gave any thought to renting servers? I mean if you arent going to release the mod fine, but plz give ppl the chance to have thier very own Voogru server in another manner. If you were to start renting servers today I might just rent one tomarrow. I would L O V E to have a Voogru modded server of my own. But like I stated before....this will most likely never happen.
On a final note...Reason #2 is lame. Let me explain. You are letting those that hold negative attitudes towards your mods control your behavior. I say screw them. Why do you care what those ppl think? Reason #1 is sufficient enough to not release if you wish not to. You dont need reason #2 as its logic is faulty anyway. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I do rent servers.... why you ask?
My question for Voogru, did you also edit the marine resource to be a bit faster too? I swear to god, I just got off your #2 server, and the marines had 1-2 resource towers the ENTIRE game, and were spending res like crazy (tf's all over, phases all over) and STILL were able to get HMGs and Heavy Armor on us. It simply didn't make sense that with 1-2 res towers they could be pumping all that out (unless they never got upgrades, not sure here, but still). I'm just curious <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'll continue to go to Voogru for my fun games
I haven't played on the server my self to be honest but judging from all these post you ether love it or hate it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
i in no way was trying to flame your server jus posting my own opinion.. and i left it open ended..allowing others to post their ideas....
i liked your ideas with the sharing res... its interesting.. allows a higher chance for surivival early game.... but does donating give ALL of it? i never got to play alien on ur server.....
ummm whoever asked me where ilive... i live in Hong Kong.. yup all the way in asia? why choose to play on american servers??
a) better teamwork.
b) more organized... ie more team chat etc....
c) more experience... and its a higher level of teamplay and more challening cuz of the lag -.- .. haha
and no.. its only voogrus server.. but now that hes put a new netcode... i wanna try this weekend again... cant this week cuz of school <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ... but most of the other servers.. ie GWB, first of ra, and Coronas... i had moderate 200-350 ping until end game..... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> yup
voogru good job on ur mods... and i persoanlly dont approve of releasing it publicy... not because it isnt good... i htink the ideas are great.. but i think and i know that voogrus knows he should ask flayra first because it IS his project <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
good job flayra.. *clap*clap* ... whole level of higher gameplay in ur server <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its impossible to cleanup the netcode. All I did was fixed a function that was eating up all the CPU.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i in no way was trying to flame your server jus posting my own opinion.. and i left it open ended..allowing others to post their ideas.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Archzai, I did not take your thread as a flame at all, Its nice to see a non-flaming thread about the servers.
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i liked your ideas with the sharing res... its interesting.. allows a higher chance for surivival early game.... but does donating give ALL of it? i never got to play alien on ur server.....
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Resource sharing can be as much or as little as you want, its a command ("giveres x") where x is how much you want to give and look at a player to give em.
63.99.234.23:27015
But watch out, It's ALWAYS full (even right now x.x)
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But watch out, It's ALWAYS full (even right now x.x) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cheers! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its impossible to cleanup the netcode. All I did was fixed a function that was eating up all the CPU.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i in no way was trying to flame your server jus posting my own opinion.. and i left it open ended..allowing others to post their ideas.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Archzai, I did not take your thread as a flame at all, Its nice to see a non-flaming thread about the servers.
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i liked your ideas with the sharing res... its interesting.. allows a higher chance for surivival early game.... but does donating give ALL of it? i never got to play alien on ur server.....
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Resource sharing can be as much or as little as you want, its a command ("giveres x") where x is how much you want to give and look at a player to give em. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol voogru... it takes something REALLY stupid before id openly flame without proper reasoning...
jus a bit sad cuz i really wanted some good competition which ur server HAS... but my ping made the good challenge useles.. beacuse ny1 could kill me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> haha
well hopefully this weekend it'll work...
jus wondering... is there a full list of changes ur personally made on ur server so i can see wuts available at my disposal? thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
it's not going to be released 'cos he doesn't want to step on anyone's toes. He does release little things like 'Idle Kick', 'Team Balance', 'Anti-Stuck' or 'Fireworks' but they don't alter gameplay. BTW T