Aol Banned From Gamesnet

Tzarcon · January 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">yes, its true, damn true</div> All AOL users are banned from gamesnet, I witnessed this myself. at Jan 15, 10:00 PM, EST:

* FuelTFC has quit IRC (G-lined (AOL is banned from GamesNET - see <a href='http://www.gamesnet.net/aol_glined.php))' target='_blank'>http://www.gamesnet.net/aol_glined.php))</a>
* DarkPenguin has quit IRC (G-lined (AOL is banned from GamesNET - see <a href='http://www.gamesnet.net/aol_glined.php))' target='_blank'>http://www.gamesnet.net/aol_glined.php))</a>
<Redford> ...
<Redford> ****.
<coil> holy WHAT?
<KungFuSquirrel> did... that just happen?'

<a href='http://www.gamesnet.net/aol_glined.php' target='_blank'>http://www.gamesnet.net/aol_glined.php</a>

Go see for yourself

Silver_Fox · January 2003

eh ..

oh well ... its their network ..
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

Sirus · January 2003

Hah. Personally, I believe AOL is the incarnation of the devil. J/k but they are evil.

Terrible service, I'm sorry for anyone stuck with AOL.

Tzarcon · January 2003

problem for alot of us is that people have friends on AOL who commonly talk to them on gamesnet. DarkPengiun, for example, he has a large role in the SWG guild "The Kharaa", but he's banned now...

Comprox · January 2003

This matter is being deeply looked into...

Greedo · January 2003

This was not a decision that was made lightly, but was a result of numerous issues with AOL as an ISP that compounded significantly over many months (years, even, I've heard), and ultimately had to result in this g-line. Having only recently become a member of GamesNET staff myself, I haven't had a lot of experience with AOL users, but the few experiences I have had have all been for the worse.

If AOL does not want to hold it's users accountable for violations of the TOS that AOL 'requires' their users to abide by, then GamesNET has no choice but to completely ban the offending network.

Gazaar · January 2003

Yeah. I'm one of these that has fallen victim. Die Gamesnet, Die.

Injury · January 2003

That explains where you disappeared off to when I came back from work, Gazaar.

Well, I can't say I'm really surprised about this though, but the good folks who use <i>that</i> horrible ISP will get siderailed like Gazaar.

Comprox · January 2003

Hopefully AOL takes a hint and provides better relations with gamesnet and actually deal with users of their ISP who are not using for intended purporses <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'> We discussed, we decided we will wait a while before, and if, anything is done. More than likely, we'll just try and setup some proxies for you poor AOL users who love our channel so much <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Gazaar · January 2003

!unf
chanserv: I don't want to be a part of your sick fantasies!

Injury · January 2003

I shall miss your sick fantasies, Gazaar.

HtNickoli · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Jan 16 2003, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hopefully AOL takes a hint and provides better relations with gamesnet and actually deal with users of their ISP who are not using for intended purporses <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'> We discussed, we decided we will wait a while before, and if, anything is done. More than likely, we'll just try and setup some proxies for you poor AOL users who love our channel so much <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Would it not be better to just move the ns channel to irc.enterthegame.net or one of the many other irc servers. If you feel so strongly about this issue? Rather then trying to subvert the authority of the owners and thoose who run gamesnet? I'm sure you wouldent be to impressed if ppl started offering proxy connects to thoose banned from your forum. And knowing gamesnet such actions would just result in the channel account being deleted and yourselves g-lined. And to tell the truth, I would not blame them one bit.

DOOManiac · January 2003

I just shot off a mail to PHL. Hopefully they'll put the whole aol/gamesnet thing on the front page and get many aol using peeps to go complain about it. Hopefully AOL will listen, but I doubt it.

ChromeAngel · January 2003

AOL is Evil. They probably expect everyone to use AIM rather than IRC.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> AOL

NationWide · January 2003

But of course! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>

Shame that there's some legit folks out there getting punished by this, but (callous and simplistic as this may sound) I guess that's the risk for running with such a gawd-awful, substandard ISP. Generally I don't agree with gamesnet about most of the things they do, but in this case, if half of what they said about AOL is true, I don't blame them one bit for their response.

...Besides, I kinda like seeing monstrous, out of control companies like AOL get the finger every once in awhile...

Sancho · January 2003

I honestly don't see how anyone in their right mind would use AOL. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'> Please tell me.

NationWide · January 2003

Young 'uns stuck with the mistakes of their parents? People stuck where it's the only ISP option available(although I can't figure there's many if any of those left)? Suckers that will believe anything a commercial tells them?

Dezmodium · January 2003

I am the catata fish.

Insane · January 2003

I'm not quite sure AOL will do anything anyway. I can just seen them saying to anyone that complains: "AOL has an Instant Messaging Service. Use that." After which follows the complainer exiting to bang his face against a wall of spikes. AOL is <i>not</i> user friendly, whatever they say.

Epoch · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Someone Who Cares @ Jan 16 2003, 04:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I honestly don't see how anyone in their right mind would use AOL. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'> Please tell me.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I had a client who used AOL dial-up, and then wanted to switch to cable. When he found out that Roadrunner didn't offer parental controls, he switched to AOL "broadband".

Venmoch · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epoch @ Jan 17 2003, 04:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
I had a client who used AOL dial-up, and then wanted to switch to cable. When he found out that Roadrunner didn't offer parental controls, he switched to AOL "broadband".</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Doe's he know you can get software for Parental control?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>?

Obviously not........

Epoch · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Jan 16 2003, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Doe's he know you can get software for Parental control?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>?

Obviously not........</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Does it offer features such as limiting the time that each user can be online? I'm not talking about things such as blocking certain IPs and sites. That can done easily. Yeah, he uses software that restricts access to certain sites, but AOL allows the master user to set limits for each subordinate user, such as how long they can be online, etc.

Anyway, I was just giving an example. Parents who don't trust their kids or need a way to control their online activity use AOL.

Injury · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jan 16 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I just shot off a mail to PHL. Hopefully they'll put the whole aol/gamesnet thing on the front page and get many aol using peeps to go complain about it. Hopefully AOL will listen, but I doubt it.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Trillian. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Legionnaired · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Injury @ Jan 17 2003, 03:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jan 16 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I just shot off a mail to PHL. Hopefully they'll put the whole aol/gamesnet thing on the front page and get many aol using peeps to go complain about it. Hopefully AOL will listen, but I doubt it.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Trillian. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Best IM program ever, BTW.

Windelkron · January 2003

I like trillian, but I can't get its IRC client to really be useful. So I'm using trillian for AIM and mIRC for IRC.

About AOL: if you got banned, get another ISP. Don't wait for AOL to change their ways. If they acted one way before (which got them banned) there is nothing stopping them from doing it again. In fact, AOL is such a huge company they might just leave everyone banned. If you get a new ISP, it'll be better for you anyway. NOT ONLY THAT, but you will have the honor of saying "I do not support a hegemonic corporation."

Spyder_Monkey · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Windelkron @ Jan 17 2003, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>About AOL: if you got banned, get another ISP. Don't wait for AOL to change their ways. If they acted one way before (which got them banned) there is nothing stopping them from doing it again. In fact, AOL is such a huge company they might just leave everyone banned. If you get a new ISP, it'll be better for you anyway. NOT ONLY THAT, but you will have the honor of saying "I do not support a hegemonic corporation."</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I understand and agree with this, but some people have little to no control over their ISP. Not everyone who frequents this forum is an adult, and gets to make decisions like that. AOL, while the worst of ISPs, is cheap, and available at places where no other ISP is. Some parents, as previously discussed, like the control that they get about time spent online, and what options are available to their children.

I can see the reasons why GamesNET decided as they did, and respect that I, myself, might have made the same decision. While a readily available chat medium for thousands upon thousands of users, GamesNET is still privately owned, and gets to make the decisions on what happens to THEIR servers.

Sancho · January 2003

Cheap? They have the most expensive dial-up I have ever seen! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

Tzarcon · January 2003

Yeah, AOL definitly isnt cheap. It's actually pretty expensive compared to others I've seen. For parents who want to "restrict" stuff with AOL, most of them are idiots who didn't pass grade 7. Seriously, everyone that uses it doesnt know better, can't figure it out, believe what they see on TV commercials, are consumer **** basically. Its also quite slow. #naturalselection switching to another IRC server is out of the question. Gamesnet is the largest IRC server there is for gaming. The channel has like a couple hundred people on average. If it were to switch to another network, that number would drop to near 50.

AOL wouldnt care if to them a few people are banned from some network that none of their employees have heard of. I suggest that if you want to use IRC ever again, switch to something else.

Spyder_Monkey · January 2003

Another idea is the proxying. It's been stated that AOL members using a proxy to connect won't be treated as g-line evaders.

Injury · January 2003

That's good to hear, there is something special missing without the usual slew of folks, certain ones at least.

Greedo · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([Ht]Nickoli @ Jan 16 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Would it not be better to just move the ns channel to irc.enterthegame.net or one of the many other irc servers. If you feel so strongly about this issue? Rather then trying to subvert the authority of the owners and thoose who run gamesnet? I'm sure you wouldent be to impressed if ppl started offering proxy connects to thoose banned from your forum. And knowing gamesnet such actions would just result in the channel account being deleted and yourselves g-lined. And to tell the truth, I would not blame them one bit.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Enterthegame.net is much more poorly run than gamesnet, and a hell of a lot less popular.
Quakenet.net has also g-lined all of AOL for reasons similar to Gamesnet's.
That pretty much covers the 2 other large gaming IRC networks.
Moving to a new network is pretty much out of the question.

And people who connect via a BNC will not be considered g-line evading.

Aol Banned From Gamesnet

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