Just wondering if I would be able to play this game.

Alex_ · December 2016

Hi, I will be getting a new computer for Christmas and I am paying for it with my own money. I do not want to buy something that I can not play fun games on though.

These are my specs for the computer that I will be getting if I can play this game:
Intel Core i3-6100
EVGA GTX 1060
Gigabyte H110M-A
8GB Crucial Ballistix
1TB WD Blue
500W EVGA PSU

I am really hoping that this PC build will be able to play this game on high settings with almost or hopefully over 60FPS. I believe that if there is a problem it will be with the CPU, but then again I don't know much about PC's since I have had macs my whole life. Thanks so much!

~Alex

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Are you putting it together yourself, or pre-built?

pie1055 · December 2016

This is kind of a tricky question to answer as this game is rather poorly optimized at the moment.

My best guess is you should be able to get around 40-60 fps most of the time but expect that to drop severely whenever the game tries to load things.

On the bright side there's rumors going around that the next update is addressing some optimization issues so things will hopefully get better soon.

Kouji_San · December 2016

That i3-6100 core is comparable to the legendary i5-2500k on stock speeds. On stock speeds Subnautica runs smooth with the usual jitters for me as expected from a pre-release. the game will not always run smooth, not even on the newest and baddest rigs. Heck even with my overclock it can sutter due to loading issues. But that is engine (development) related not rig related

That is a nice CPU, absolutely not a true 2500K successor, due to unable to overclock (mine runs at 4.7Ghz) and just two hardware cores. But a nice one just the same! Read something about this particular CPU being the best value budget iCore out there right now

I'd go for 16Gb (2x8) though +€30/€50 usually... But that's just me, I don't like running out of memory when running all sorts of video editing/photo editing and other stuff, while gaming even!

The rest I cannot comment on, haven't done the proper research. I'll let someone else handle the GTX1060 talk

I assume it goes a little something like this: GTX9xx gaming series, older generation, cheaper, faster, more bang for buck?

Also I'm sketchy on that 500watt powersupply, seems a bit on the light side...

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Alright, guys, this is his build, I didn't know what case he picked so I gave him a Rosewill FBM-05 as that's extremely cheap but still capable (anyone can edit it and share their own version, it will generate a different link):

Contribute, go!

EDIT: Swapped the Rosewill FBM-05 with Rosewill Galaxy-03 as the 03 is known compatible with the 1060 card and the FBM is unknown whether it fits or not.

old list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB FTW+ GAMING Video Card ($224.99 @ Jet)
Case: Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $558.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 18:48 EST-0500

new list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB FTW+ GAMING Video Card ($224.99 @ Jet)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-03 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $558.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 18:57 EST-0500

EDIT 2: new list with his chosen Versa H15 case:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $594.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 20:29 EST-0500

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Oh and 500W is absolutely fine, as current draw is 286 W and EVGA is a reputable PSU OEM so their 500W is actually a 500W.

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Oh, to share your variations, click [bb] under the "Markup:" heading beside "Permalink" at the top of the list. Copy-pasta.

Kouji_San · December 2016

If he does insist on 8Gb, isn't 2x4 better and faster what with tripple channel? Heck I've been out of the rigbuilding scene for far too long due to this 2500K still kicking major booty... So feel free to correct me

EnglishInfidel · December 2016

Kouji_San wrote: »

The rest I cannot comment on, haven't done the proper research. I'll let someone else handle the GTX1060 talk

It's a beast. It's not the best, (all hardware gets old quick) but it's a beast. You're quite right about it being "bang for bucks"... there are far better options but the price is very fair.

Subnautica runs perfectly well on my R9 255 from 3 years ago (I need an upgrade) so the 1060 should be absolutely wonderful.

Kouji_San · December 2016

Ah the good old HD5000 series > HD6000/7000 series all over again? My HD5870 is only starting to get into some issues with just 1Gb in some unoptimized games, but I mostly play on 1600x900 anyways (oddball stupid decision I made for those 1680x1050 16:10 screens, recording simply requires 16:9 xD )

0x6A7232 · December 2016

@Alex_ What's your budget? Then we have more of an idea to go on. For example, you could really really use a cheap SSD in addition to your normal drive(s) (the difference is night and day, and you'll never go back once you've started using SSDs).

Alex_ · December 2016

Thank you guys so much, it means a lot to me that you would go out of your way just to help me. And yes, I am building this PC.

Alex_ · December 2016

I have about $600 saved up.

EnglishInfidel · December 2016

Kouji_San wrote: »

Ah the good old HD5000 series > HD6000/7000 series all over again? My HD5870 is only starting to get into some issues with just 1Gb in some unoptimized games, but I mostly play on 1600x900 anyways (oddball stupid decision I made for those 1680x1050 16:10 screens, recording simply requires 16:9 xD )

Haha, I play a lot of strategy or turn based games, slow paced thoughtful games, and I always play in good old windowed 1280x1024 so I can watch Youtube or films on the other side of the screen.

I keep meaning to replace my busted second monitor but to be honest I'm happy this way.

This is now a battle-stations thread!

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Alright. I threw a Mushkin ECO3 SSD in there. It's not a Samsung, but it's good (I have both a Samsung 850 EVO for my desktop, and Mushkin ECO3s in both mine and my wife's laptops, they're good drives).

Total price is $625, so you should be able to snap this up shortly.

list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB FTW+ GAMING Video Card ($224.99 @ Jet)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-03 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $625.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 19:17 EST-0500

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Can anyone else here get him better bang for the buck? It seems pretty decent to me, but I'm still a little rusty.

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Ah, fudgemonkeys. Do you have a Windows license? If you only have one that came with a computer, it won't transfer. If you bought Windows separately, then it will.

Alex_ · December 2016

I don't have the computer yet, but I am probably going to buy windows 10. It sucks that it doesn't come with the computer though.

EnglishInfidel · December 2016

0x6A7232 wrote: »

Ah, fudgemonkeys. Do you have a Windows license? If you only have one that came with a computer, it won't transfer. If you bought Windows separately, then it will.

Is Winborg still going? Winborg 10?

Ah memories.

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Cheapest one I could find on there was 88$,

updated list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB FTW+ GAMING Video Card ($224.99 @ Jet)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-03 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $714.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 19:26 EST-0500

Alex_ · December 2016

Thanks dude, and I forgot to put the case I have in there, it is about $2 cheaper than the Rosewill lol.

Thermaltake VERSA H15 Micro ATX Mini Tower Gaming Computer Case

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Alex_ wrote: »

Thanks dude, and I forgot to put the case I have in there, it is about $2 cheaper than the Rosewill lol.

Thermaltake VERSA H15 Micro ATX Mini Tower Gaming Computer Case

If you open the parts list I put out, you can click "Edit this part list" in the upper right of the list, and change it, and when you get it the way you want, you can create an account and save your build ('Save As', above 'edit this list'. Then you can also have multiple builds for like "as cheap as possible", "my current rig", "my dream build", "Tony's build" etc etc. You can also set up price alerts etc.

Accessing your lists is up at the top of the page nav bar, between "log out" and country selection. You can also edit your profile (like to tell it to use smile.amazon instead of regular amazon links) by clicking your user name.

You can also view other users' builds, which is cool.

EDIT: Oh, hey, if you're fussy about having a 2.5" SSD in a 3.5" slot, there's an adapter here for like $7

Alex_ · December 2016

You are the best man, thank you so much!

0x6A7232 · December 2016

@Alex_ See my edit to my previous post, but one last thing:

I forgot. You can totally get that build right now, and start using it. How? Don't buy the graphics card yet. The CPU comes with an Intel HD 530 graphics card build in to it, and that motherboard has HDMI out, so you're golden. When you get the money saved up, snag the graphics card (might be cheaper then) and install it.

I'm playing Subnautica right now on the HD 530, and it works fine.

because the used R9 280X I bought was destroyed by the previous owner (they claimed it was bad BIOS update, I know I can fix that, but in reality they gobbed 10x the thermal paste needed on it WHEN IT WAS still under warranty, voiding it)

Side note: you need thermal paste. I recommend Arctic Silver, you can get some one eBay here for like $7. Put on a tiny drop, and spread it evenly. You should be able to almost read the letters on the CPU through the layer when you're done.

Also: One thing the Galaxy-03 case had that the Versa does not: a 2.5" bay (see prev post's edit about adapter). BUT, the Versa looks to have better airflow, so I'd go with the Versa.

So. Since you've got extra money if you don't buy the graphics card right away, you COULD upgrade the CPU to an i5-6600, putting you at $594.18 ( list ). Adding 2x8=16GB Ripjaws V DDR-3200 memory puts you at $629.18 (basically matching my current rig in specs) ( list ).

0x6A7232 · December 2016

I should add: Subnautica on my rig won't run awesome, but it does run decently , ~24 FPS is normal, with less in bases if there's a lot going on (but still able to walk around and use things).

I can still play around with this guy's save here, for example, and if you download that and go to his main base, you'll see he has terraforming all over and many, many base parts. So it's usually fine.

HiSaZuL · December 2016

Wait for christmas buy everything from newegg.com

Also a personal thing. Don't be cheap with your PSU, yes EVGA is rock solid choice but why such a low one? Add things here and there add another card later... blah blah blah... and poof not enough juice. As matter of fact buy an evga mobo as well one that will last.

My rig is 6 years old... I can still play most things that aren't horridly made. Like Witcher 3 which is nice and smooth...even a turd like new DXMD runs on high preset and sits at 30-40 fps despite my gpu being a few generation behinds the minimum requirement(sadly all old gpus ave the exact same issue with conversations randomly crashing gpu itself).

0x6A7232 · December 2016

HiSaZuL wrote: »

Wait for christmas buy everything from newegg.com

Also a personal thing. Don't be cheap with your PSU, yes EVGA is rock solid choice but why such a low one? Add things here and there add another card later... blah blah blah... and poof not enough juice. As matter of fact buy an evga mobo as well one that will last.

My rig is 6 years old... I can still play most things that aren't horridly made. Like Witcher 3 which is nice and smooth...even a turd like new DXMD runs on high preset and sits at 30-40 fps despite my gpu being a few generation behinds the minimum requirement(sadly all old gpus ave the exact same issue with conversations randomly crashing gpu itself).

Eh. That used to be the case. Both GPUs and CPUs have gotten way more efficient, you basically only need more wattage if you are doing multiple GPUs. I updated the build specs for an example, look at this - i7-6700K 4.0GHz, 3x 7200 RPM HDDs + one 4 TB SSD, 32GB DDR4-3200 RAM, and a GTX 1080 Sea Hawk @ 1.71GHz, and it only uses 445W:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($336.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum Blackout 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($299.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 4TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($1374.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($456.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($456.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($456.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($749.99 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $4413.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-13 21:51 EST-0500

Just wondering if I would be able to play this game.

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