Make beacon less forgiving?

pointypunpointypun asdasd Join Date: 2014-02-18 Member: 194123Members
in Ideas and Suggestions
Basically this.

Every well coordinated rush gets beaten down by a cheap beacon.
So go the other bases you say? Well marines are there 10 seconds later due to phase gates.

Make it 20 res, or disable PG's for some time. It's a cheap teleport at the moment, rather than a last resort kind of thing.
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  • joshhhjoshhh Milwaukee, WI Join Date: 2011-06-21 Member: 105717Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester
    Getting the marines to beacon becomes less and less effective the later you wait in the game. If you can force an early beacon, marines should lose most of their res on the map. If you wait till marines have 3 bases and a triangle gate network... well yeah, it becomes less detrimental to the marine team. You can still set up attacks assuming the marines will beacon though. Leave an onos and skulk back at your base and have the rest of the team go force a beacon. Then send your onos/skulk combo to the nearest phase gate. They should be able to kill it before the marines recover from said beacon.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited March 2014
    It was already nerfed when they removed the ability to respawn the entire team.
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  • TheriusTherius Join Date: 2009-03-06 Member: 66642Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    God forbid capitalising on a beacon would have you think and plan ahead.
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  • maD_maX_maD_maX_ Join Date: 2013-04-07 Member: 184678Members
    lol, remember when beacon took you to the obs instead of the nearest chair... Build a ninja obs in the enemy base, "their beaconing!! kill there res, wait what? our hive just died?"
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  • meatmachinemeatmachine South England Join Date: 2013-01-06 Member: 177858Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    pointypun wrote: »
    Basically this.

    Every well coordinated rush gets beaten down by a cheap beacon.
    So go the other bases you say? Well marines are there 10 seconds later due to phase gates.

    Make it 20 res, or disable PG's for some time. It's a cheap teleport at the moment, rather than a last resort kind of thing.
    It's most definitely a last resort thing :P
    If you need to beacon, it means you fucked up and your team overextended (i.e. nobody was near a phase gate, and nobody guarding base). It costs 10 res and every alien on the map (should) know it's time to haul ass to a phase gate and grind it down before the marines come pouring back through.

    A well-coordinated beacon would be one where you have aliens already beating the marines back into a particular phase gate, ready to take it down. It's less effective at completely nullifying a marine push on a single location.
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  • Omega_K2Omega_K2 Join Date: 2011-12-25 Member: 139013Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    maD_maX_ wrote: »
    lol, remember when beacon took you to the obs instead of the nearest chair... Build a ninja obs in the enemy base, "their beaconing!! kill there res, wait what? our hive just died?"

    Was so much more fun and tactical then the current beacon :D
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  • Cannon_FodderAUSCannon_FodderAUS Brisbane, AU Join Date: 2013-06-23 Member: 185664Members, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    @pointypun beacons cost res (alot of res). We can wear down a marine team by forcing multiple beacons (we did this last night on a game where we lost 3-4 hives). Marines have repair and shipping, and most of map and tech, we sent 3 skulks to base via hub all the time (took coordination), and purely killed res and make sure they couldn't rebuild it back. 2-3 beacons later we had most of the map because they had no res to drop meds! So cheap beacons aren't cheap, it just takes time to win.
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  • cooliticcoolitic Right behind you Join Date: 2013-04-02 Member: 184609Members
    No, just no.

    The idea of counter-attacking is to make them beacon so they get away from your base. Also, without beacons taking out the power would be incredibly op.
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