Naming Gathers - What should this system be called?

HughHugh CameramanSan Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
G'day everyone,

If, hypothetically, Unknown Worlds was getting close to releasing an organised play system for NS2, what should we call it?

In the NS community, 'gather' is an often used term. However, we can't find evidence of it being used in any other game. It does pop up among some Quake, TF and other harder-core shooter communities, but never as an in game term.

Instead, these systems go by names such as 'Play With Friends' (CS:GO,L4D2). 'Matchmaking' is not an appropriate term, as this hypothetical system does not yet support finding matches based on skill or other variables. Other terms similar to 'gather,' such as PUG ('pick up game'), suffer from some degree of obscurity when used outside harder-core shooter communities.

Names that have been proposed for this hypothetical system include:

Team Play
Gather
Organised Play
PUG
Hangouts
Lobby
Group Play
Queue
Party Mode
Matchmaking
Quick Match

Right now, 'Organised Play' stands out as an appropriate term. It would, hypothetically, sit below 'Play' in the main menu. Play would be renamed 'Browse Servers.'

Hypothetically, of course.
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  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited February 2014
  • turtsmcgurtturtsmcgurt Join Date: 2012-11-01 Member: 165456Members, Reinforced - Supporter
  • current1ycurrent1y Join Date: 2003-12-08 Member: 24150Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester
  • VengaboyVengaboy The Swamp Join Date: 2013-08-24 Member: 187053Members, Reinforced - Shadow
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    Lobby seems familiar. "Pregame lobby" would be a nice name since it brings along all the connotation of "pregaming" so invites general silliness.
  • 2cough2cough Rocky Mountain High Join Date: 2013-03-14 Member: 183952Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    One word answers are not helpful, chaps ;)

    If you like a word, try to explain why. Give examples of other games where it is used, and consider its appeal across the largest possible audience.
  • BensonBenson Join Date: 2012-03-07 Member: 148303Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    something simple like "Lobby Queue" would be ideal imo.

    It lets players know that they will be entering a queue with other players to start a game.
  • Infinity_XInfinity_X USA Join Date: 2013-12-17 Member: 190195Members
    I'll throw a vote in for Gather. I have no recollection of the word being used elsewhere in such a way, so it would hold a unique place in my mind.

    I can't think of a better word. I think it would be simple for anyone to understand the verbiage of something along the lines of "The Gather system allows players to form a team before joining a game." Then you would need to get into the details on whether everyone still gets dumped in a ready room, or if it puts two Gather groups in a still pre-game UI where they get to choose sides (and rules for swapping each round or whatever).
  • SUPER_SARSSUPER_SARS Join Date: 2013-02-13 Member: 183039Members
    Is it skill based? If so I bet @Golden would have a great answer.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    Gather
    It is simply grinded deep deep deep into this community.


    Looking for Group
    Its a rather known term also, but can have a stigma of suck.
  • nezznezz Join Date: 2012-12-11 Member: 174712Members
    Competitive Match-Making
  • Infinity_XInfinity_X USA Join Date: 2013-12-17 Member: 190195Members
    nezz wrote: »
    Competitive Match-Making

    That's specifically not what this system would be.
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited February 2014
    I think 'Competitive Gather' would work. 'Gather' alone is sort of ambiguous, but adding competitive in front makes it obvious. Maybe "Competitive Lobby" would work too. Organized Play is fine too.
  • SupaDupaNoodleSupaDupaNoodle Join Date: 2003-01-12 Member: 12232Members
    edited February 2014
    This is a very interesting hypothetical situation.

    Badger.

    More seriously: Keep the word competitive out of it. Would scare most people away. Also "gather" is a bit ambiguous. The issue is not about losing sales, the point is that casuals who would be interested in organized matches rather than random public play would not know what gather meant.

    Perhaps something like Organized Games would be best.
  • Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I would throw my hat in for Gather too. It is a term that explains exactly what it is, a gathering of people to play a game. If you feel that worried, I recommend maybe Gather Lobby, but really, I think you are worrying about nothing, and in fact missing the opportunity to in-grain the word Gather among gamers.

    Be more confident in UWE to lead the way. People will understand soon enough :)
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Gather; for the reasons mentioned above.
  • tallhotblondetallhotblonde Join Date: 2012-12-11 Member: 174770Members, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2014
    - Gather -Title
    - Gather with Friends and Foes in a team based 6v6 match - Sub Title.

    To come together; convene
    To accumulate
    To harvest or pick
    To gain by a process of gradual increase
    To collect into one place; assemble.
    To pick up and enfold

    Lets Gather :D

    Its cool because it can have different variable meanings, meaning as the system evolves to suit the community, it will always be relevant.
    And stop with the hypothetical stuff, being kept in the dark is pissing me off :D
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts
    SamusDroid wrote: »
    Gather because all the hypothetical code uses it, hypothetical URLs use it, hypothetical UI elements use it, everyone knows it as Gather. Gather is a universal term for "Getting together". There are TFC, and NS1 gathers. Who says that NS2 can't be the first to start using "Gather" if it's believed to be the only place where it's used anyways.

    Also gather fits best to what this hypothetical system is imho. Speaking about any other of the listed terms i think about other kind of system which the hypothetical system is not.

    So Gather fits better than any other term i could imagine.
  • joshhhjoshhh Milwaukee, WI Join Date: 2011-06-21 Member: 105717Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester
    Gather works well...
    My other vote would be Organized Play.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    "Pickup game" is what we used to call it playing football in the park. I don't know if the kids do that these days ...
  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    "Gather"

    or

    "Premade matches designed to give a balanced experience to all players through the wonders of organised play"
  • 0ni0ni Join Date: 2012-08-30 Member: 156991Members
    Hugh wrote: »
    One word answers are not helpful, chaps ;)

    If you like a word, try to explain why. Give examples of other games where it is used, and consider its appeal across the largest possible audience.

    Teasing threads are not helpful either. Just give us our god damn gather button already!
  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited February 2014
    SUPER_SARS wrote: »
    Is it skill based? If so I bet @Golden would have a great answer.
    'Matchmaking' is not an appropriate term, as this hypothetical system does not yet support finding matches based on skill or other variables.
  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES! FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS! Australia Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff
    edited February 2014
    Enough with this silliness.
    Her name is Susan, and that's final.


    Well gather works for reasons that have been highlighted. i like pug personally simply because i know what it means but gather has a sort of.. general english feel to it. no jargon.

  • d0ped0gd0ped0g Join Date: 2003-05-25 Member: 16679Members
    edited February 2014
    It can always be changed to Matchmaking once the matchmaking part is introduced.

    Gather seems like the most fitting and elegant term, however I guess it may a little ambiguous for newbies, but with a description text that might not matter.

    Organized Play could easily work. PUG might be a little too technical (but I don't know how well known the word is for an average player)

    I am against 'Lobby' (and most variants proposed) as we already have a lobby - The readyroom.

    Throwing in a vote for either "Gather" or "Organized Play".
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