Combat Mode Relaunch

SamusDroid · September 2013

Snipo wrote: »

web is awesome(thanks) , flame thrower destroys hydras instantly again.
6 round shotgun is fail against an onos. i need level 4 damage if its going to stay like this.
exo is very hard to play now maybe that was the intent you need epic bot aim + lots of welders to do anything.... maybe that was the point?
i tried 5 times i don't get bilebomb unless i get tier 3.

NO SHADOWSTEP? has anyone noticed this one? just saying the lack of posts tells me no one is playing besides the 16 people i play with on the normal... =\

Rail gun bullet size was decreased IIRC.

Lather · September 2013

Still don't have leap after getting teir2 as a skulk.

Snipo · September 2013

Lather wrote: »

Still don't have leap after getting teir2 as a skulk.

i have to get tier 3 to get tier 2 leap,bile bomb etc

try that!

GameOver · September 2013

leap wasn't working for me at all.

Are you guys working on an updated version?

Electr0 · September 2013

I know you guys keep on top of bugs and do the odd tweak now and then but is there any hope we'll ever see a build menu for combat?

I've been looking forward to one for ages and there was talk of it a long time ago but nothing seems to happen, i thought perhaps now xenoswarm is released with one we might finally see it in combat as well, hopefully once reinforced issues are taken care of you can give this a go, i know it would make a lot of players happy and keep combat interesting!

MCMLXXXIV · September 2013

By the by, a new version of Xenoswarm has been published to the workshop. This fixes all the issues with b254! Happy alien stomping!

@Electr0 90% of the work for the build menu is done now. It's just a case of porting the code from Xenoswarm to Combat. One key problem though is that it's really hard for us to add new tech data in the current Combat codebase.

This is one of the reasons why the Xenoswarm codebase got started. If you play Xenoswarm on a Combat map you get a shitty imbalanced version of combat but at least the build tool works! The source code is out there, so if someone wants to take that on and finish the job to make Combat 2.0, I'd be happy to support them!

Electr0 · September 2013

Thanks for the update, im looking forward to it, whenever that may be!

ZEROibis · September 2013

255 is out and combat mod is not happy lol

ZEROibis · September 2013

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ZEROibis · September 2013

rofl just for test I actually went to pastebin and it will not let you paste this many errors.

NS-Soldier · September 2013

- Leap (tier 2) broken
- flamethrower is op
- railgun/mini-gun needs lower overheating

it's almost weekend i hope they are fixed soon

Faust · September 2013

I have had other tier two abilities not work. Tier 2 on gorge wasn't working (no bile). It worked on one life, but when I respawned I lost it, but I still had tier 2 unlocked.

relent · September 2013

The Tier 2 / Tier 3 abilities are fixed now.

In this new version I've also added a "competitive mode" option which tries to focus on the combat of competitive games. So fades vs shotguns is the end game.

Alien abilities disabled:

Onos
Xenocide

Also, Lerks are limited to 1 per 4 players and there is no cap on the number of Fades.

Marine abilities disabled:

Exo
Grenade Launcher
Flamethrower
Scan
Fast Reload
Catalyst
Mines
EMP

To enable this mode type this console command:

sv_co_mod_compmode true

and reload the map.

I have a server running this mode (Europe) at 85.236.100.68:27015 Combat Competitive Mode | No Onos/Exo/GL/FT

casan0vax · September 2013

Competitive Mode sounds amazing :0

RaZDaZ · September 2013

If there's anything that ruins combat it's Xenocide. Consider removing it from the standard mode as well please. I kinda like going exo every now and then but can't get any welding or make a push because skulks spam Xenocide.

Electr0 · September 2013

relent wrote: »
The Tier 2 / Tier 3 abilities are fixed now.

In this new version I've also added a "competitive mode" option which tries to focus on the combat of competitive games. So fades vs shotguns is the end game.

Alien abilities disabled:
Onos

Xenocide

Also, Lerks are limited to 1 per 4 players and there is no cap on the number of Fades.

Marine abilities disabled:
Exo

Grenade Launcher

Flamethrower

Scan

Fast Reload

Catalyst

Mines

EMP

To enable this mode type this console command:
sv_co_mod_compmode true
and reload the map.

I have a server running this mode (Europe) at 85.236.100.68:27015 Combat Competitive Mode | No Onos/Exo/GL/FT

Cool, id love to see a few popular modes added to combat if it wasn't too much work, like marine vs marine and alien vs alien combat, perhaps even a few classic ones like ctf, king of the hill etc?

NS-Soldier · September 2013

RaZDaZ wrote: »

If there's anything that ruins combat it's Xenocide. Consider removing it from the standard mode as well please. I kinda like going exo every now and then but can't get any welding or make a push because skulks spam Xenocide.

easy to avoid xenocide by NOT camping in a group

found a bug, EMP does not work for the female, i find that very sexist

RaZDaZ · September 2013

easy to avoid xenocide by NOT camping in a group

You must be insane. Do you really think that will happen in combat? When there are Exos to support on top of that? Fades and Lerks picking off any solitary marine? Not to mention Onos?

WHAT? Everything in this game promotes group play and supporting each other in close proximity at least on marine play except for the nuclear bomb in the mud that is Xenocide. It's fine in normal play because it's 3hives, late game stuff but in combat, it's completely broken. Literally all it takes is one person to get a multi kill with it and suddenly a bunch more people go skulk and just xenocide at everything they see. It's cheap, it's skill-less, it's completely uncounterable, it stunts the design of group based play and it's really fucking effective.

Not to mention it, there are just players now that do nothing but go aliens and rush straight to Xenocide because of how broken it is in combat.

wb_spank · September 2013

Please re investigate devour range to be reduced.

Snipo · September 2013

devour range still sucks. anyone here played with bigticket? i swear he found a way to jump higher as an onos!

NS-Soldier · September 2013

flamethrower's ammo needs reducing, it's like using it can go on for like 10 seconds

MCMLXXXIV · September 2013

For anyone that missed it. Server guide is here:
http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/124206/definitive-guide-to-running-a-modded-server-combat-custom-maps-or-otherwise

Zowart · September 2013

RaZDaZ wrote: »

easy to avoid xenocide by NOT camping in a group

You must be insane. Do you really think that will happen in combat? When there are Exos to support on top of that? Fades and Lerks picking off any solitary marine? Not to mention Onos?

WHAT? Everything in this game promotes group play and supporting each other in close proximity at least on marine play except for the nuclear bomb in the mud that is Xenocide. It's fine in normal play because it's 3hives, late game stuff but in combat, it's completely broken. Literally all it takes is one person to get a multi kill with it and suddenly a bunch more people go skulk and just xenocide at everything they see. It's cheap, it's skill-less, it's completely uncounterable, it stunts the design of group based play and it's really fucking effective.

Not to mention it, there are just players now that do nothing but go aliens and rush straight to Xenocide because of how broken it is in combat.

Xenocide is great when all those marines clump up in a doorway hoping to farm a lucky shot around a corner...

Speaking of which, it seems the alien Tier 3 abilities for all the alien forms are missing... I don't get to play marines very often since I go random!

Snipo · September 2013

any idea when will the new patch be out? update broke tier 3 without bilebomb its hard to win as alien ^^;
how do i check the win/loss stats for the last few days?

lifesfun · September 2013

Having a problem. I keep getting this error in the console,

Error: lua/Class.lua:21: assertion failed!
[Server] Script Error #1: lua/Class.lua:21: assertion failed!
Call stack:
#1: assert [C]:-1
#2: Class_ReplaceMethod lua/Class.lua:21
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methodName = "OnClampSpeed"
method = function
original = nil
#3: lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_MovementModifier.lua:26
originalPlayerOnClampSpeed = nil
#4: Script_Load [C]:-1
#5: scriptLoad lua/LoadTracker.lua:33
scriptPath = "lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_MovementModifier.lua"
normPath = "lua/extraentitiesmod/eem_movementmodifier.lua"
NewPath = "lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_MovementModifier.lua"
ret = nil
#6: Load lua/EventTester.lua:191
fileName = "lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_MovementModifier.lua"
reload = nil
#7: lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_Shared.lua:15
#8: Script_Load [C]:-1
#9: scriptLoad lua/LoadTracker.lua:33
scriptPath = "lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_Shared.lua"
normPath = "lua/extraentitiesmod/eem_shared.lua"
NewPath = "lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_Shared.lua"
ret = nil
#10: Load lua/EventTester.lua:191
fileName = "lua/ExtraEntitiesMod/eem_Shared.lua"
reload = nil
#11: lua/combat_Server.lua:67

Snipo · September 2013

no xeno/bile bomb = harder to win help please!

JimWest · September 2013

Seems like my Eem mod is broken, need to have a look at it.

JimWest · September 2013

OK should be fixed now.

lifesfun · September 2013

Ok thanks Ill Update it and check the logs!

lifesfun · September 2013

When loading a map like spacejump which requires the eem mod. The errors are gone, however, when loading a regular combat map, I am still getting the errors.

Combat Mode Relaunch

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