game director 75k

jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
hi i have this question anyone will pay 75k dollars for this?
i mean this is a little expensive how much people are working in UWE?
and i think that make a game you just cant do it in 5 days i was planning
a lot of years ago to make a re-make of future cop with actual technology
but, in 5 days can make a game? you make ns2 in 5 years not 5 days
if i pay that i can learn how to model, script, animation, or something like that?
(the only i know is programming in csharp, and C,little C++ and nothing more)
can you make a game in 5 days?

and i really dont understood well how it works, if i pay that you puchase flight
to uwe office and i am your "boss" for 5 days?
i prefer to work with you
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  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    by the way, why it cost 550k make these updates?
  • ezekelezekel Members, NS2 Map Tester Join Date: 2012-11-29 Member: 173589Posts: 1,385 Advanced user
    jaimd wrote: »
    by the way, why it cost 550k make these updates?

    This crazy thing called labor rate
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    yeah but how many people work in UWE i thought thath was 3 peoples the makers of this game or im wrong?
  • NazoNazo Such Is Life in The ZoneMembers, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold Join Date: 2010-12-16 Member: 75720Posts: 293 Fully active user
    It takes ALOT to develop/update a game, especially for a small indie group like UWE

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_development
  • carlgmcarlgm Members, Constellation Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30907Posts: 101
    jaimd wrote: »
    yeah but how many people work in UWE i thought thath was 3 peoples the makers of this game or im wrong?

    You are wrong, the current people working on it are listed here: http://unknownworlds.com/about/

  • HivelordHivelord Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17567Posts: 140 Fully active user
    Read the credits.
    E t e r n o . n z
    Narfwak
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    and asking the director 75k can someone explain me more better?
  • killer monkeykiller monkey Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2010-02-26 Member: 70743Posts: 574 Advanced user
    I have no idea what you said at all
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  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    i read the wiki link and now i understood why it cost 75k, but i dont understood
    how it works in this game the game director, the UWE will make a game for me?
  • ResRes Members Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20245Posts: 626
    jaimd wrote: »
    but, in 5 days can make a game?

    You can't really make a "game" in 5 days. You can make the skeleton structure of a mod of NS2 in 5 days (UWE has proven this already by making mods in 5 days, such as Last Stand), but certainly not a completely different game that has hundreds of different models/textures than NS2. You would mostly be using existing NS2 models and textures, they would be able to make SOME new ones in 5 days though and you would also be using existing NS2 maps, therefore any game you make would really just be a mod of NS2..... it takes far longer than 5 days to make any sort of decent map.

    IronHorse
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributorMembers, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Posts: 8,194 admin
    I kinda thought the 5 day time frame was impractical, too. :-/
    QUOTE (Techercizer @ Feb 3 2012, 10:47 AM) »
    Every time you ask for troubleshooting without providing system info, ATI adds a rendering bug for an upcoming game.

    When you feel you need to be rude or angry about a game, just read these links and remember what role you are playing:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect
    http://www.eldergame.com/2008/06/taming-the-forum-tiger/
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    I have no idea what you said at all

    sorry i am from argentina and i dont know enlgish very well.

    by the way with only programming in csharp or c i cannot do a game or i can?
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    and asking something else, i recently bought the game, where is the source code so i can mod and the spark editor?

  • BensonBenson Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow Join Date: 2012-03-07 Member: 148303Posts: 1,296 Advanced user
    I would hope that for the 75k you get a licence to use Spark, a Prototype of a game on Spark, as well as the ablility to speak to the developers of the engine with questions.

    Also, i's sure that they would answer any and all questions you have about programming and teach you everything they could (after all, you wold be the boss for a week :D)
    If we are to be damned, let us be damned for what we really are. - Capt. Jean Luc Picard
  • aeroripperaeroripper NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471Posts: 2,423 mod
    edited September 2013
    I imagine the $75k option is more for angel type investors than normal everyday donaters. Or incredibly wealthy NS2 players.
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    yeah but im not a rich man with 500 millons of dollars to pay thath y have only
    $115 pesos(not dollars) to pay this amazing game
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    searching in the main folder of ns2 i found the editor but when i click on it it say "unable to initialize render device",
    same problem with cinematic tool
  • BentRingBentRing Members Join Date: 2003-03-04 Member: 14318Posts: 397
    ezekel wrote: »
    jaimd wrote: »
    by the way, why it cost 550k make these updates?

    This crazy thing called labor rate

    Don't forget things like office space, and increased commercial rates for everything else in an expensive part of the country.

    a.k.a. Roland tHTG
  • CrushaKCrushaK Members, NS2 Playtester Join Date: 2012-11-05 Member: 167195Posts: 1,182 Advanced user
    jaimd wrote: »
    by the way with only programming in csharp or c i cannot do a game or i can?

    Theoretically you can do anything with C.
    How long that will take depends on your own knowledge and the scope of the project, though. And on your masochism.

    C# is more limiting in that regard, but it can be used as scripting language in Unity and is more on the realistic side for a game made by small teams.
    Suggestions:
    Tech Path of Hive actually upgrades the Hive itself
    Give Gorges telepathic control over their Bait Ball for Overlord-style commanding of Babblers

    And please allow to turn rooms into emergency-lit or dark versions if infestations grows over an unbuilt or damaged power node socket.
  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    CrushaK wrote: »
    jaimd wrote: »
    by the way with only programming in csharp or c i cannot do a game or i can?

    Theoretically you can do anything with C.
    How long that will take depends on your own knowledge and the scope of the project, though. And on your masochism.

    C# is more limiting in that regard, but it can be used as scripting language in Unity and is more on the realistic side for a game made by small teams.

    i am in the university in my second year, thats why i aws aking xd.

    in argentina theres a carrer caller higher technical programmer in games thath cost like $2000 per month!

    they teach you how to use 3dmax,programming and unity in full scale but its very explensive, i pay $550 for my current carrer
    but they only teach to do "business" programs, i know well csharp from microsoft visual studio but i know if i study the
    important things i can make a game

    eXeelhakenspit
  • NarfwakNarfwak Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Posts: 3,785 admin
    Bear in mind that UWE made three pretty decent although obviously unfinished mods during the modjam - and that was dividing their efforts in the same amount of time. If you get them to all form like Voltron then you can probably actually get a pretty decent game mode out of them. They're incredibly fast designers and programmers and it's honestly a little intimidating to watch them work.

    As for why the large goal number for Reinforced, well, as was mentioned above you ought to read through the credits. Basically only the testers and other community contributors are unpaid (trying to pay for QA would be completely insane even for the the most scandalous temp agency outsource crap half the industry uses); all the off-site designers, animators and artists still get paid for their work. On top of that UWE hired some seriously talented people for their main office who could probably make a whole hell of a lot more money working in any other industry, so it's a miracle they get by on the budget that they have.
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  • jaimdjaimd Members Join Date: 2009-03-22 Member: 66855Posts: 30
    yeah you are right, but how you know how fast they work? theres is any video in youtube or something
    behind the scenes? in the office of UWE? like an interview?
  • NarfwakNarfwak Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Posts: 3,785 admin
    Several of the developers actually streamed the entire ModJam process. Let me see if I can find the archived VODs for you on twitch.tv (I think they were on the Natural Selection 2 channel and maybe chops' channel). As for why I personally know how well they work, well, to say that the playtesters work with the developers very closely and have a much better relationship in general than the average QA/developer relationship would be a massive understatement.
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  • CaptivaCaptiva Members Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187588Posts: 26
    edited September 2013
    75 thousand and 9 main employees...
    So it basically amounts to "pay us 8000 bucks each and we will let you watch us work for a week."

    If I didn't love this game I would say it wasn't worth it, but I would pay that if I had a ton of extra cash, Or any cash.



    But if anyone is interested, I will let you watch me work for a week for only a paltry 5 thousand...
    Though as a disclaimer legally I cant let you tell me what to do, but you can certainly watch.
    Volley'd and thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell,
    While horse and hero fell,
    They that had fought so well,
    Came thro' the jaws of Death, Back from the mouth of Hell,
    All that was left of them, Left of six hundred.
    Kamamura
  • NarfwakNarfwak Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Posts: 3,785 admin
    No one ever said it wasn't a bit silly. That said I'd be surprised if they didn't put in some ridiculous effort to get you your money's worth. :)
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Posts: 4,983 mod
    Captiva wrote: »
    75 thousand and 9 main employees...
    So it basically amounts to "pay us 8000 bucks each and we will let you watch us work for a week."

    If I didn't love this game I would say it wasn't worth it, but I would pay that if I had a ton of extra cash, Or any cash.



    But if anyone is interested, I will let you watch me work for a week for only a paltry 5 thousand...
    Though as a disclaimer legally I cant let you tell me what to do, but you can certainly watch.
    That includes the costs for flying you out to stay in San Francisco for a week.
  • RedSwordRedSword Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter Join Date: 2006-12-07 Member: 58947Posts: 308 Advanced user
    Keep in mind this is a donation/income thing.
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  • tarquinbbtarquinbb Members Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166314Posts: 1,123
    if I had 75k to spare, it might be worth it just to command hugh to wear his trademark costume - and bring me a coffee.
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