Marines are under powered and fps issue?
xDpPx_Prime
Join Date: 2013-08-14 Member: 186830Members
Join Date: 2013-08-14 Member: 186830Members
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The fps issues are known... we had a perfomance increase, recently. There is a big content update incoming, maybe they will do something for the performance^^
Some tips to get your started with your marine play: burst fire when you're confident you are going to hit. Fast-moving skulks and lerks can be very difficult to track, and until you've got used to the full 360-degree tracking this game requires, don't expect to aim like an experienced NS2 player.
Make yourself difficult to bite. Don't run backwards as a light marine. Ever. Instead, you can turn your mouse 90 degrees, and strafe in the same direction to move 'backwards' much faster. Jumping can be useful to avoid skulks (at least until you get to the really top level skulks who will find you easier to kill this way).
There's nothing actually wrong currently with the marine weaponry, though there are some tweaks being done to try to give the marines a little boost.
FPS: what can I tell you, other than it used to be a HUGE amount worse. UWE have made massive improvements to performance, which is great, though I think even they would admit it's not *quite* where they'd like it to be yet. To get the most out of this game, you do really need a fairly decent PC, and there's not a lot of getting around that, I'm afraid.
thanks for the tips guys ^_^
my aim is pretty decent tho already but im puting mag after mag in some aliens and they just manage to kill me
Disclaimer: This is all from memory as I rarely use the command. If anyone can acknowledge or correct the statement I would appreciate it. :P
Additional note: The aim required in NS2 is a lot different than most current FPS games. There is an incredible amount of tracking on the marines part.
If only you had typed "5 days ago" at the beginning...
By overclocking the GFX, you might possibly get 50-100MHz out of the 6770 if you have a decent cooler and good thermal management in the case, but this will almost certainly reduce the lifespan of the graphics card, will almost certainly void any warranty you have, and might not actually give you that much real world boost.
joshhh is absolutely correct about the r_stats command in console. If you see a consistent value >0 for the waiting for GPU (it might be 3ms or more, I suspect), then that's confirmation that you're being limited by the graphics card.
Just search the forum, you will find many threads about that.
Possible fixes are coming in 2 weeks with the next big content upgrade.
But the weapon3 LMG ist still good against skulks, lerks, fades (if 2-3 focusing one fade), onos (if 4-5 focusing one onos) in lategame.
The weapon is ok, if you are able to hit things.
You should play a bit more than 5 days maybe before complaining about weapons.
The 6770 is an 2 year old low end graphics so it should be possible that this is your bottleneck.
This part of your post fit more into the technical forum btw.
Maybe you find threads with equal system specs there.
He's saying that there are many, many players with 300, 400, 500+ hours of gaming in NS2 under their belts. Heck there are plenty with well over 1000+. PLENTY.
This game has a pretty steep learning curve, and honestly, unless you were an NS1 pro, I really wouldn't be expecting to do well after 5 days of playing it! It's worth sticking at, though - if you have decent aiming skills from other games, that's a good start
Yes runing at 3.9 constant all settings are low but im guessing it has to be the gfx card as nothing else would cause it except AMD drivers but i just updated to BETA drivers so hopefully im gonna get some sort of increase and i will try that r_stats and post the result
AMD CPU, nuff said. Also being better than an i3 isn't an achievement..
If "waiting for GPU" is not 0ms, that means your GPU is the bottleneck, which it is in your case. Are you really playing on low settings? Make sure stuff like bloom, shadows, ambient occlusion and atmospherics are off.
I assure you with the performance problems that essentially everyone here has had at some point (especially around release and before), we've seen thread after thread of people swearing blind that their mid-end CPUs weren't the problem, then proving that they were with screenshots. It might not sound great, but honestly a high end i5 or i7 is by far and away the best way to play this game, as its CPU requirements are quite high in comparison to most other games: there is a tonne of logic going on that other games don't have to deal with.
However, your GFX card is causing you the low fps. For reference, don't take the main menu or even the ready room as an accurate description of what goes on in the game: there are lots of things different between these areas and the in-game in-round scenario, which really is the only place you should be measuring performance!
Just looking a that screenshot, if it's taking 25ms to display each frame on screen, and 19 of those are taken up by the graphics rendering process, you should be able to expect a much MUCH smoother gameplay experience with a beefier graphics card (at which point you'll become CPU limited, but hopefully the max fps you'll be able to get out of your FX chip will be playable).
yea. looks like dropping your screen res might be the move.
Time to get a better GPU or figure out what is making your GPU lag so much.
Because I have a AMD HD6970 2gb and I get 0ms waiting for GPU with low settings.
thank you
im thinking of upgrading to this http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-radeon-hd-7790-directcu-ii-oc-6400mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1000mhz-cores-896-dport-dl-dvi-hdmiplu
I have an AMD CPU, they are just simply not as fast as Intel chips for single threaded operations. It is a fact not fan boyism. Sucks that AMD is on the decline but Intel is really the only choice for high end gaming performance at the moment.
AMD CPUs are fine.
Also there is no game engine comparable to spark. (what ns2 uses) so saying source or bf3 or unreal 3 runs perfect does not mean it will for ns2.
We could go on about the Grand Canyon of differences but just trust me on this ;-)
Well, your system isn't GPU bottlenecked, which means it's most likely CPU throttled at that