NS2 = win8 = no fullscreen support

oldassgamers · May 2013

Hello, I've installed windows 8 and can't play NS2 on fullscreen. Do someone knows a way to fix that?

It's nothing wrong with ns2, this happends to other games to.

DC_Darkling · May 2013

id start by updating the driver.
still gambling

GrayW · May 2013

I'd also have to say this is probably down to your graphics drivers.

oldassgamers · May 2013

It's up to date.

Kouji_San · May 2013

OAG... Why are you using Windows 8 [-(

Also does the Fullscreen/Borderless Windowed Mode work, might use that for now even though it eats some FPS...

ScardyBob · May 2013

Install Windows 7

IronHorse · May 2013

@kouji_san does fullscreen windowed really hurt your fps? Never notice any decrease, and your rig is way better than mine?

shonan · May 2013

I am using Windows 8 and fullscreen works. It is actually the only one working for me in an actually playable state.

digitaljuice · May 2013

IronHorse said:

@kouji_san does fullscreen windowed really hurt your fps? Never notice any decrease, and your rig is way better than mine?

i have a pretty decent rig and fullscreen windowed eats quite a bit of FPS, otherwise i'd run it all the time. Also what graphics card/resolution are you running to run it on and with?

SquishpokePOOPFACE · May 2013

Fullscreen windowed only shows like a 3 FPS drop for me. If you alt-tab a lot it could be worth using fullscreen windowed.

kalakuja · May 2013

install windows vista

oldassgamers · May 2013

I had windows 7 and it worked perfect.

Now I have fps drop with windows 8 and I can't get fullscreen. What a crap software. Strange part about windows 8 is that if you install any driver from your modeboard then it crash the operative system.

Mige · May 2013

No problems here

oldassgamers · May 2013

Mige? Do you have dual monitor? And yet has fullscreen? Please confirm!

AurOn2 · May 2013

It's a problem with the operating system, not with unknown worlds.
downgrade to windows 7, it's not worth upgrading to windows 8, it's the current age vista. (we all know how bad vista was, right?)

Braw · May 2013

Win8 + Dual screens, no problem here.It really shouldn't be necessary to downgrade to W7.

Try different graphic drivers, ATI got beta-drivers that you can download for instance (same page as the usual driver, just further down the page).

edit: Nvidia does too, there's a link below the usual dropdown boxes.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

DC_Darkling · May 2013

Im still pondering to install windows 8 because people claim windows 7 runs games better.
That sofar is my only downside. If you invest time in it to setup & learn, there is nothing wrong with windows 8.

I always run fullscreen windowed.

SO what exactly is the problem why you can not user it @ the opening poster.

Kouji_San · May 2013

IronHorse said:

@kouji_san does fullscreen windowed really hurt your fps? Never notice any decrease, and your rig is way better than mine?

It's not a significant drop, but it certainly eats FPS more then normal windowed mode. I thought I just mentioned it

Braw said:
Win8 + Dual screens, no problem here.It really shouldn't be necessary to downgrade to W7.

It's not a downgrade :P

oldassgamers · May 2013

Well is nothing wrong with nvidia drivers when it comes to not properly working fullscreen on windows 8.

I can confirm that fullscreen works perfectly in Starcraft 2 and planetside 2 (That's the only games I've tested so far).

Regarding performance, I only have performance drop on NS2 with 25-42 FPS and the reason is I'm playing on windows mode. Compared if I would played on fullscreen then I'll must likely would have same performance as in windows 7? So hopefully uwe can ivnestigate and solve this issue quickly.

Braw · May 2013

Like I said, have you tested the beta drivers?

IronHorse · May 2013

It *should * just work, like it is for others.. So UWE has no info on why it wouldn't.
If you figure it out or desire further diagnosing let us know :-)

shonan · May 2013

Kouji_San said:

Braw said:
Win8 + Dual screens, no problem here.It really shouldn't be necessary to downgrade to W7.
It's not a downgrade :P

It is. I'd rather see "we'll look into testing on the operating system that is the current version of the platform we support" instead of "downgrade to 7/vista/xp/2000/98/95/3.1 or whatever".

ScardyBob · May 2013

shonan said:

Kouji_San said:

Braw said:
Win8 + Dual screens, no problem here.It really shouldn't be necessary to downgrade to W7.
It's not a downgrade :P

It is. I'd rather see "we'll look into testing on the operating system that is the current version of the platform we support" instead of "downgrade to 7/vista/xp/2000/98/95/3.1 or whatever".

Its only a downgrade if your using it on a tablet. For the rest of us who have these things called 'keyboards' and 'mice', Windows 8 is a bit of a productively nightmare. Not surprisingly, its not been well received by game developers. The fact that I have to install third-party software to get back the Start menu or edit my registry to disable the Charms Bar and Switcher is enough reason to forgo the 'upgrade'.

The irony is that gaming performance is actually not that different on Win8 as compared to Win7. If Microsoft stopped trying to make it into Windows: iPhone Edition then it would probably be a great OS. Maybe Microsoft will fix all their mistakes in Win8 Blue.

Kouji_San · May 2013

Well if you go by their track record, it goes a little something like this [Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS etc...] Win8 is a bad one, so the next one should be good once more

oldassgamers · May 2013

Opened task manager for windows 8 it drains 80 out of 100 procent cpu for 0,3 seconds compared with windows 7 that only drains 11 out of 100 procent for 0,3 seconds. Another note that task manager for windows 8 is so bugged.

I decided to go back to windows 7 64 bit but the issue still remains.

So now I know it's not the operative system that is the problem. I'll further investigate.

May the force be with me.

SkulkittoMe · May 2013

Just saying, I'm on Win8 and I don't have issues with poor game performance (fps) or fullscreen support.

Good luck!

shonan · May 2013

ScardyBob said:

shonan said:

Kouji_San said:

Braw said:
Win8 + Dual screens, no problem here.It really shouldn't be necessary to downgrade to W7.
It's not a downgrade :P

It is. I'd rather see "we'll look into testing on the operating system that is the current version of the platform we support" instead of "downgrade to 7/vista/xp/2000/98/95/3.1 or whatever".

Its only a downgrade if your using it on a tablet. For the rest of us who have these things called 'keyboards' and 'mice', Windows 8 is a bit of a productively nightmare. Not surprisingly, its not been well received by game developers. The fact that I have to install third-party software to get back the Start menu or edit my registry to disable the Charms Bar and Switcher is enough reason to forgo the 'upgrade'.

The irony is that gaming performance is actually not that different on Win8 as compared to Win7. If Microsoft stopped trying to make it into Windows: iPhone Edition then it would probably be a great OS. Maybe Microsoft will fix all their mistakes in Win8 Blue.

Kouji_San said:

Well if you go by their track record, it goes a little something like this [Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS etc...] Win8 is a bad one, so the next one should be good once more

I dont care what you think, Win8 is the current version and after using it for a little while it is a lot better than Win7. But oh yeah you havent even used it.

Still if you are developing something you should be doing testing on Win8, naturally. Instead of "lol win8 sux, downgrade"

DC_Darkling · May 2013

I have to hop in with Shonan.
I have worked with windows 8 for a bit, although not as much as I may like. But it is on many aspects vastly superior.

The crowd screaming it is not are usually IT folk. But lets not forget the overlarge majority are non it folk.
They prefer to have everything on a desktop, use search options and have easy access to all.

Windows 8 provides easy access with tiles, the search is bloody fast and find everything from files to programs. And if that isnt fast emought, IT folk can use shortcuts which make it even faster.
Only reason my own pc isnt running windows 8 yet is mainly due to possible compatibility issues with older games.

Windows 8 also uses less memory, task manager itself is improved and shows a lot more. People usually complain about the start menu, but how many in reality actually USE the menu accept to shutdown the computer?
They (MS) ran huge optin (or optout cant remember) annonymous data collection worldwide and it showed in the result what we all already know. Almost noone ever uses the bloody menu. All the alternatives are faster.

Regnareb · May 2013

I do use the menu everytime, I don't even wait for it to appears, I press the first letters of the program I want, and then press Enter. Done. There are no faster way if you have tons of programs and you don't want to clutter your taskbar.

But I agree with you about all the fuss around Windows 8. Especially on a support topic like that. If you don't like it just don't post trolls, and try to help at least.

Kouji_San · May 2013

shonan said:

ScardyBob said:

shonan said:

Kouji_San said:

Braw said:
Win8 + Dual screens, no problem here.It really shouldn't be necessary to downgrade to W7.
It's not a downgrade :P

It is. I'd rather see "we'll look into testing on the operating system that is the current version of the platform we support" instead of "downgrade to 7/vista/xp/2000/98/95/3.1 or whatever".

Its only a downgrade if your using it on a tablet. For the rest of us who have these things called 'keyboards' and 'mice', Windows 8 is a bit of a productively nightmare. Not surprisingly, its not been well received by game developers. The fact that I have to install third-party software to get back the Start menu or edit my registry to disable the Charms Bar and Switcher is enough reason to forgo the 'upgrade'.

The irony is that gaming performance is actually not that different on Win8 as compared to Win7. If Microsoft stopped trying to make it into Windows: iPhone Edition then it would probably be a great OS. Maybe Microsoft will fix all their mistakes in Win8 Blue.

Kouji_San said:

Well if you go by their track record, it goes a little something like this [Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS etc...] Win8 is a bad one, so the next one should be good once more

I dont care what you think, Win8 is the current version and after using it for a little while it is a lot better than Win7. But oh yeah you havent even used it.

Still if you are developing something you should be doing testing on Win8, naturally. Instead of "lol win8 sux, downgrade"

Quiet shonan, I'm trying to listen to the awesomeness that is WinME, Vista and 8 :P

...also you lost me at "I"

[edit]Mandatory rage++ at the new forum inputfield and quote tags not collapsing on itself

Since it's not related to just NS2, I'm still inclined to say. If this happens again for someone else, try and test the various 3D settings in the graphics card control center (Use application setting), it could work. But then again, as it's not just confined to NS2...

ScardyBob · May 2013

oldassgamers said:

Opened task manager for windows 8 it drains 80 out of 100 procent cpu for 0,3 seconds compared with windows 7 that only drains 11 out of 100 procent for 0,3 seconds. Another note that task manager for windows 8 is so bugged.

I decided to go back to windows 7 64 bit but the issue still remains.

So now I know it's not the operative system that is the problem. I'll further investigate.

May the force be with me.

Sounds like you may have a hardware or driver issue somewhere if its happening on Win7 too. Did it work when you had Win7 installed previously? Also, have you installed new hardware since then?

DC_Darkling said:

I have to hop in with Shonan.
I have worked with windows 8 for a bit, although not as much as I may like. But it is on many aspects vastly superior.

The crowd screaming it is not are usually IT folk. But lets not forget the overlarge majority are non it folk.
They prefer to have everything on a desktop, use search options and have easy access to all.

Windows 8 provides easy access with tiles, the search is bloody fast and find everything from files to programs. And if that isnt fast emought, IT folk can use shortcuts which make it even faster.
Only reason my own pc isnt running windows 8 yet is mainly due to possible compatibility issues with older games.

Windows 8 also uses less memory, task manager itself is improved and shows a lot more. People usually complain about the start menu, but how many in reality actually USE the menu accept to shutdown the computer?
They (MS) ran huge optin (or optout cant remember) annonymous data collection worldwide and it showed in the result what we all already know. Almost noone ever uses the bloody menu. All the alternatives are faster.

I'd actually agree than Win8 is better in most respects, but is crippling bad in a few key areas. The sad part is Microsoft could have avoided the issue by making a Win7-like option available for those who like the Win7 setup (and I'm not IT and I prefer the older Win7 interface).

My hope is that they'll fix this nonsense with Blue and I can actually switch to Win8.

NS2 = win8 = no fullscreen support

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