I feel Coms need someway to punish players
Copain
Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154776Members
Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154776Members
I've had problems lately with people cheating. I just finished up a game where a guy was sitting in base and showing the Marines where my upgrades and buildings were. This really isn't a fun thing. It's more obvious considering he was tagged with another group there (Obviously I won't name it, not that immature).
I know there's potential for abuse and I'm not sure the way it could be done (possibly preventing spawn but keeping him on the team?)... But I feel that something needs to be done about people trying to cheat or throw a game for the other team.
You're probably going to mention that a commander could troll and abuse this. And you're right. But to be honest, if you have a troll commander, you're going to lose regardless. He could just throw away all your resources and throw the game that way.
I know there's potential for abuse and I'm not sure the way it could be done (possibly preventing spawn but keeping him on the team?)... But I feel that something needs to be done about people trying to cheat or throw a game for the other team.
You're probably going to mention that a commander could troll and abuse this. And you're right. But to be honest, if you have a troll commander, you're going to lose regardless. He could just throw away all your resources and throw the game that way.
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This made me think of Black & White. Where you could pick up your peasants and slam them into a wall XD.
I am almost sure there was an admin mod that allowed the admin to do that...I know there was the TK punish mod of FF servers whereby you could slap/forgive the person who TK'd you, think that was metamod.
Sadly I think giving the comm an ability to punish without a triggering act would be too much of a griefers tool.
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Seriously though, use positive reinforcement. Give the kind & good players the commander bought weapons and goodies. Leave the punishing to the admins. :)
LOL
Go ahead and present your evidence.
JK, although seriously, use voice chat to commend obeying players and motivate the slackers. You'd be surprised to find out how well it actually works. If possible even address them personally and you could also try using harmless or funny 'swearing' words in the process.
Server admins.
That and the votekick commands in the ns2stats and DAK mods.
There are quite a lot of ways for abuse in NS2 and I sincerely hope UWE will implement a vanilla votekick command.
Then again, even that can be abused.
Be nice people, please.
On a more serious note, for the most part admins should take care of this, not coms. I don't know you want to add a system that isn't abuseable but does it tasks.
Then punishing him would probably get you banned. Find a better server.
I personally don't mind people surrendering if they want to; in fact I think it's smart and efficient to surrender in a lost game rather than troll it by dragging it out. However, actively working against your own team is never OK.
If the team in general isn't performing or responding to the game, I punish them by going to spectator mode and enjoying the ensuing mess...
I personally don't mind people surrendering if they want to; in fact I think it's smart and efficient to surrender in a lost game rather than troll it by dragging it out. However, actively working against your own team is never OK.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We won anyway because I was a better com.
But you can't just leave a server and not come back in a game like this. It was the server with one of the best pings to me. and the game doesn't have the largest player base.
<!--quoteo(post=2037148:date=Nov 29 2012, 04:30 AM:name=pittlerGG)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pittlerGG @ Nov 29 2012, 04:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037148"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Go ahead and present your evidence.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And that would do what? I'm not going to name and shame and that wouldn't accomplish anything in this case.
Go away.
<!--quoteo(post=2037153:date=Nov 29 2012, 04:55 AM:name=Xarius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xarius @ Nov 29 2012, 04:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037153"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's called voice chat, just flame them :).
JK, although seriously, use voice chat to commend obeying players and motivate the slackers. You'd be surprised to find out how well it actually works. If possible even address them personally and you could also try using harmless or funny 'swearing' words in the process.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did, he didn't listen. I did multiple times. I also called it out in public chat.
<!--quoteo(post=2037355:date=Nov 29 2012, 12:07 PM:name=Troubleshooter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Troubleshooter @ Nov 29 2012, 12:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037355"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There isn't a way to directly punish a player, and I don't think there should be. I use a mic when I play, and I'll throw them under the bus if I see someone actively being dead weight to the cause.
If the team in general isn't performing or responding to the game, I punish them by going to spectator mode and enjoying the ensuing mess...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My entire team was doing great except for the one guy who was cheating for the other team. calling it out didn't/won't do much.
It surprises me how much people encourage Trolling in this game and are fine with it :V... But I suppose that's a PVP community for you. Poisonous to everyone without knowing how it hurts the game.
<!--quoteo(post=2037140:date=Nov 29 2012, 10:47 AM:name=enhaxed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (enhaxed @ Nov 29 2012, 10:47 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037140"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I suggest electric shocks delivered via the keyboard.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These two should be sufficient
If the game had 1 server with ###### admins and it was the only server to play on, I'd rather simply stop playing the game than put up with stupidity.
You have to draw the line somewhere.
Or better yet mark him for death and enable friendly fire on him.
Ok I was joking on that last one =)
Go away.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You accuse people of cheating, and when asked how you know they were cheating your response is basically "nuh-uh I'm not gonna tell you go away".
You claim not to be immature, but this is what you've shown us so far:
- Accuse people of cheating.
- Want to punish players.
- Impolite and childish posts.
I'm not saying you are immature, but judging by how you've interacted with this forum so far, it seems like you are trying to make yourself look immature.
I never asked who was cheating, I asked what evidence you have that they were cheating. If you can't present any evidence, why should we take you seriously?
We need an evil hand for that first... Also a prison in which we can throw offending players who will die and turn into a skeleton. And we need a torture chamber...
Must not forget Dark Mistresses...