Gabe Newell confirms new Engine is ready.

MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">A entirely new Engine, he claims. Not an upgrade to Source.</div><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"So what do you wanna know about that's not Half-Life 3?" Valve president Gabe Newell, laughing, asks a crowd of Redditors who recently visited the Washington-based studio. The group's first question, however, was just as worthwhile. What's up with that supposed new game engine? "We've been working on new engine stuff for awhile," Newell says. It's tough to hear what he says next, but it sounds like, "We'll probably just roll it out in one of our games" (subtitles of the video read: "We've just been waiting for a game to roll it out with"). Thankfully, a followup question directly addresses Newell's ambiguity. "Is it going to be more than just an update to Source [Valve's first game engine]? Is it an entirely new engine?" the Redditor asks, which Newell directly (and concisely) responds to with a simple, "Yeah." See the full back-and-forth beyond the break.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Not really surprised. I think everyone guessed this is what has been going on. New engine and HL3 will be the first release on it. But good to hear.
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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    Of course, just nice to hear it from the Gabens mouth.
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  • CamronCamron Join Date: 2011-01-06 Member: 76356Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2020393:date=Nov 11 2012, 11:02 PM:name=Comprox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Comprox @ Nov 11 2012, 11:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2020393"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not really surprised. I think everyone guessed this is what has been going on. New engine and HL3 will be the first release on it. But good to hear.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's not confirmed
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  • AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
    edited November 2012
    Someone else also stated they were working on Ricochet 2 with a smirk on his face so it's likely they are and it* will be first release.

    *And by it I mean HL3 not Ricochet 2.
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  • HyperformsHyperforms Join Date: 2012-11-04 Member: 166912Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2020439:date=Nov 11 2012, 09:11 PM:name=Camron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camron @ Nov 11 2012, 09:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2020439"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That's not confirmed<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not confirmed, but they couldn't possibly pick a better time to release it than to coincide with a new engine. It only makes sense from a business perspective.
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    In my ~15 years of online FPS gaming I've yet to encounter an engine worse than Source. It's pretty terrible.

    I hope this new one is less Source and more Goldsrc.
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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2023691:date=Nov 14 2012, 11:23 PM:name=SentrySteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SentrySteve @ Nov 14 2012, 11:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2023691"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In my ~15 years of online FPS gaming I've yet to encounter an engine worse than Source. It's pretty terrible.

    I hope this new one is less Source and more Goldsrc.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Then you've had a very sheltered 15 years of gaming.
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2024052:date=Nov 14 2012, 10:15 PM:name=Mkilbride)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mkilbride @ Nov 14 2012, 10:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2024052"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Then you've had a very sheltered 15 years of gaming.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You think? Name an engine you think is worse. Every engine, even ones that I have no idea (for example; whatever Rainbow Six was on) was superior to Source. Quake, Goldsrc (just a modded quake, really), Torque, Unreal... these were the most popular back in the day and they feel 1000x better than Source ever did. Modern engines, Frostbite, Cry, the modern takes on the classics (like the new Unreal/Quakes), hell... even Spark...

    Yeah man... I can't name a single worse engine in 15 years of gaming. Your quoted text was pretty cool though.
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  • Heroman117Heroman117 Join Date: 2010-07-28 Member: 73268Members
    As much as you may criticize source, I still say Sergey Titov's proprietary engine takes the cake in being the most (deliberately) lazily produced engine ever made; Big Rigs couldn't have the massive success it has with just any other ordinary engine.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I think SentrySteve was talking about online FPS games and... yeah I can't really think of an engine that feels worse than Source. Maybe the Diesel engine (GRAW, Lead & Gold) or X-Ray (STALKER)?
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    The group was from /v/, not reddit.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    4chan, reddit, what's the difference.
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  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    edited November 2012
    I think everyone is exaggerating what he said. Everything is based on him saying "yeah" which is pretty ambiguous. The Source we have today has changed a lot since HL2's release, and while the engine in question may be more like the goldsrc -> source jump than the source2004 -> source2010 growth, I'm not going to be holding my breath for something completely brand new and astounding.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    The goddamn Lithtech engine.
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  • CamronCamron Join Date: 2011-01-06 Member: 76356Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2024670:date=Nov 15 2012, 11:26 AM:name=A_Boojum_Snark)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A_Boojum_Snark @ Nov 15 2012, 11:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2024670"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think everyone is exaggerating what he said. Everything is based on him saying "yeah" which is pretty ambiguous. The Source we have today has changed a lot since HL2's release, and while the engine in question may be more like the goldsrc -> source jump than the source2004 -> source2010 growth, I'm not going to be holding my breath for something completely brand new and astounding.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He confirmed that it was a more than just an improvement to Source.
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2024789:date=Nov 15 2012, 12:17 PM:name=Camron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camron @ Nov 15 2012, 12:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2024789"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He confirmed that it was a more than just an improvement to Source.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hopefully it will have Linux/ Mac support. I know Valve has been moving in that direction, including the Source Port to OSX and Linux.

    A modern multi-platform (OpenGL) engine with modern shaders, is needed something fierce.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Good point. It would be baffling if a new major engine release didn't have something to do with their beta of steam on linux.

    --Scythe--
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