Female marines canned?

DullgarianDullgarian Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4236Members
in NS2 General Discussion
Hi!

Just needed to know where's the female marine? I remember reading that UWE team wanted to add them sometimes later in the development but on the build 221 new, they say they hit "lockdown" which means no new features or changes to the game. Can I presume there will never be female marines in the game? :(
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  • IndustryIndustry Esteemed Gentleman Join Date: 2010-07-13 Member: 72344Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    They still have a plan to do it (though I can't remember which thread it was posted in a while back). However, it is not required for gameplay and is merely cosmetic so it is on hold until after 1.0 ships.
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  • DarkScytheDarkScythe Join Date: 2012-08-30 Member: 156876Members
    The devs have stated several times that 1.0 is not the end, but just the beginning.
    Female marines are coming; it's supposedly something Hugh feels very passionately about.
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    Recent dev Q+A they said its being worked on, but has been delayed until after release.
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  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    Female marines are definitely going to be added to the game, but it will be after 1.0

    There is going to be a lot of new features, models and maps added after release, so don't think of 1.0 as the final state of NS2.

    --Cory
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  • Onii-chanOnii-chan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7164Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985178:date=Sep 30 2012, 08:32 PM:name=DarkScythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DarkScythe @ Sep 30 2012, 08:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985178"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The devs have stated several times that 1.0 is not the end, but just the beginning.
    Female marines are coming; it's supposedly something Hugh feels very passionately about.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hugh is gonna be one step closer to becoming the little girl.
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  • NukoeNukoe Join Date: 2012-08-05 Member: 154821Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985205:date=Sep 30 2012, 11:53 AM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Sep 30 2012, 11:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985205"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Female marines are definitely going to be added to the game, but it will be after 1.0

    There is going to be a lot of new features, models and maps added after release, so don't think of 1.0 as the final state of NS2.

    --Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I feel this should be a bullet point feature on your Steam page. Make sure people know you plan to continue Natural Selection well after release.
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  • Skyforger2Skyforger2 Join Date: 2007-10-19 Member: 62681Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985238:date=Sep 30 2012, 09:30 PM:name=Nukoe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nukoe @ Sep 30 2012, 09:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985238"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I feel this should be a bullet point feature on your Steam page. Make sure people know you plan to continue Natural Selection well after release.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Agreed, put a thing saying free DLC every week :D
    Knowing how how annoying the big game developers have become with their DLC's
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  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1985238:date=Sep 30 2012, 09:30 PM:name=Nukoe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nukoe @ Sep 30 2012, 09:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985238"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I feel this should be a bullet point feature on your Steam page. Make sure people know you plan to continue Natural Selection well after release.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Totally agree.

    We take it for granted here that UWE work in this way. They release free updates. They even gave us all free extra copies of the game!

    To people unfamiliar with UWE however they will not expect the volume and quality of free updates.

    Advertising that is really important.
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  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    One of the first things to make it into the game yet one of the last to be released.

    <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yH-SH1Iw6TY"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yH-SH1Iw6TY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center>

    Also, I want the blinds I can open and close.
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  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985282:date=Sep 30 2012, 11:21 PM:name=Sops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sops @ Sep 30 2012, 11:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985282"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One of the first things to make it into the game yet one of the last to be released.

    <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yH-SH1Iw6TY"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yH-SH1Iw6TY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center>

    Also, I want the blinds I can open and close.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Woah that feels so old. Listen to the video lmao it's like they're in Charlie's garage

    + 1 for blinds and windows opening and closing.
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  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES&#33; FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS&#33; Australia Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff
    To hell with female marines, i want female aleins! Gorgetts and skulketts need some luvins too!
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  • wirywiry Join Date: 2009-05-25 Member: 67479Members
    What I'm worried about the female marine is the hitbox. You can't very well slap a female face on a male marine model. The female model would probably be harder to hit with parasite as I guess it would be more slim in general. Which would, I guess, make the hitbox smaller. It could also be debatable if it could be easier to "hide", get in between more narrow stuff, etc.

    For looks, sure give us a female marine. But in game I don't think there would be a reason to use the male marine ever again, which is a damn shame.
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  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1985336:date=Sep 30 2012, 06:45 PM:name=wiry)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wiry @ Sep 30 2012, 06:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985336"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What I'm worried about the female marine is the hitbox.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is a good point.

    Have the devs put much thought into this?
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  • rhombusrhombus Lerk Queen Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106055Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1985332:date=Sep 30 2012, 07:42 PM:name=AuroN2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AuroN2 @ Sep 30 2012, 07:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985332"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To hell with female marines, i want female aleins! Gorgetts and skulketts need some luvins too!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    I want a pink bow on my Lerk with some sparkly barrettes.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1985345:date=Sep 30 2012, 11:55 PM:name=SabaHell)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SabaHell @ Sep 30 2012, 11:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985345"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I want a pink bow on my Lerk with some sparkly barrettes.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I want those on your Lerk as well, makes you easier to shoot. Even if I mostly play aliens... Mostly...


    Wait scratch that, you're not getting those Saba, we need you on the alien team :P
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  • killer monkeykiller monkey Join Date: 2010-02-26 Member: 70743Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1985339:date=Sep 30 2012, 07:49 PM:name=Sops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sops @ Sep 30 2012, 07:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985339"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is a good point.

    Have the devs put much thought into this?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I dont understand your worry. Its not like she hovers or is 2 feet tall.
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  • wirywiry Join Date: 2009-05-25 Member: 67479Members
    edited September 2012
    So you don't see a problem where the male marine model is bigger than the female marine model?

    Even if the only difference is that the skulk has to aim 10% better to hit a parasite from afar, however you bend it it gives the marine 10% more chance to avoid being parasited (and to go down from 3 bites instead of 1 parasite and 2 bites).

    How is that close to fair? In all honesty it doesn't take much brain power to come to the conclusion that it isn't.

    Shh.. hovers and 2 fett tall.. Please avoid posting again.
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  • Onii-chanOnii-chan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7164Members
    Female marines will just have high heels so the hitboxes match up and are identical with the default.
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  • WildChickenWildChicken Join Date: 2004-08-25 Member: 30891Members, Constellation
    To be fair, I wouldn't expect a combat-ready and trained female marine to be of a topmodel build. Big and bulky and not exactly a sexmachine is what I'd expect.

    Have you ever seen the women that make a career in the armed forces? The ones I have wouldn't fit in whatever next top model show!
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  • CodeineCodeine Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75155Members
    As long as a thong is peaking out from the top of her pants ill be happy.
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  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1985501:date=Oct 1 2012, 03:37 AM:name=WildChicken)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WildChicken @ Oct 1 2012, 03:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985501"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Have you ever seen the women that make a career in the armed forces? The ones I have wouldn't fit in whatever next top model show!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'd say the average women in the military is of smaller stature then the average man in the military, as is with the general population. I'm not sure where you are getting this image of 'bulky' women in the military from.
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  • Laosh'RaLaosh'Ra Join Date: 2011-12-09 Member: 137232Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What I'm worried about the female marine is the hitbox. You can't very well slap a female face on a male marine model. The female model would probably be harder to hit with parasite as I guess it would be more slim in general. Which would, I guess, make the hitbox smaller. It could also be debatable if it could be easier to "hide", get in between more narrow stuff, etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    afaik the collision models are rather simple compared to the looks of the models. the marine models should probably turn out equally tall though.


    and i agree, please don't make them look like skinny super models. i remember how the league of legends community kept asking for a female tank-role character, and what they got is this:
    <img src="http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/game_data/1.0.0.146/content/champion/portraits/89.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    that is the official splashart. it's a nice piece of art i guess, but please note how skinny she is. and the pointy highheels! seriously, how can you walk on uneven terrain with that, let alone block a charging enemy with your shield? yea i know, magic or nanites...
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    woot


    nancy
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  • DghelneshiDghelneshi Aims to surpass Fana in post edits. Join Date: 2011-11-01 Member: 130634Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1985510:date=Oct 1 2012, 11:25 AM:name=Laosh'Ra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laosh'Ra @ Oct 1 2012, 11:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985510"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->afaik the collision models are rather simple compared to the looks of the models. the marine models should probably turn out equally tall though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The collision models are very simple, but the hitboxes are incredibly detailed, which is pretty frustrating and also a bit unusual I think, especially in a very fast paced game.
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  • MestaritonttuMestaritonttu Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30229Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    I heard they ain't adding Female marines yet because of the performance issues. I mean, the game is already suffering, so what happens when you assign 2 cores of a multi-core processor to handle left and right boob physics?
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/images/a/a4/NS2_Female_Marine_Concepts_-_Final.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Doesn't look bad IMO
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  • AgielAgiel Join Date: 2006-11-14 Member: 58605Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    I, for one, will welcome our new butch overlords.
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  • WildChickenWildChicken Join Date: 2004-08-25 Member: 30891Members, Constellation
    A hint of sarcasm which went unnoticed I suppose Sops. Of course, statistically speaking the difference might be as with the population in general.

    As long as it doesn't affect gameplay, I don't care whether or not they add female marines. Can I get a bow for my gorge?
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985508:date=Oct 1 2012, 03:19 AM:name=Sops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sops @ Oct 1 2012, 03:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985508"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd say the average women in the military is of smaller stature then the average man in the military, as is with the general population. I'm not sure where you are getting this image of 'bulky' women in the military from.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The men in NS2 are rather scrawny, so having females use the same skeletal frame would not be unrealistic.
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  • CodeineCodeine Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75155Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985558:date=Oct 1 2012, 10:43 PM:name=TimMc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimMc @ Oct 1 2012, 10:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985558"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The men in NS2 are rather scrawny, so having females use the same skeletal frame would not be unrealistic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Aren't the Male marines 6'6 or something? that isnt scrawny.
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