<!--quoteo(post=1962782:date=Aug 14 2012, 09:13 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Aug 14 2012, 09:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962782"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Pretty much. There are several things that make me laugh at this whole situation and just how experienced this guy might be with online gaming: <ol type='1'><li>Getting so upset over one encounter with a possible cheater. Like it's never happened to him before in any game.</li><li>Reacting hyper offended to relatively polite replies. </li><li>Going to the trouble of posting full specs and over-sized pictures of his expensive rig. "Hey guys, look at me!"</li><li>Trying to bring psychology and brain-function into the argument.</li></ol> Why???? The whole thing screams over-compensating to me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These were actually not "Polite" responses. These were actually a bunch of kids calling me a noob simply cause I said that this game needs anti-cheat asap. Why am I immediately called a noob for saying that someone was cheating when I explicitly said from the start that I rarely ever call someone a cheater but this case was different. I'm not a newbie to the game I've been playing a long time. These guys were cheating and that's all there is to it. If you had been on aliens you'd see that.
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<!--quoteo(post=1962800:date=Aug 14 2012, 05:30 PM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 05:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962800"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually I am a "military-grade tactician" as you put it, I have pictures for that too. And yes I can say how fast reaction time is, on average it's about 200-220ms. But that's reaction time based on just reaction, not based on thought. Unless his plan was to shoot as soon as something happened you have to 1:Identify the Object, 2: Orient yourself and your gun to the object, 3: Decide if it's what you want to shoot, and 4: Act upon your decision. He skipped the first 3 steps as if it was done for him automatically. It takes more than 200ms or even 500ms to understand what you see then actually put your gun on target while simultaneously tracking that target across a room without a single error. THAT ISN'T POSSIBLE.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice therory, but did you ever saw the best Starcraft players? Im sure they are faster than 500ms
<!--quoteo(post=1962805:date=Aug 14 2012, 09:35 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Aug 14 2012, 09:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962805"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Man, sounds like you need to apply to be UWE's in-house tactician and anti-cheat expert. But I'm sure that would take you away from your 6-figure salary as a military contractor, right?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No smartass I'm not a contractor, and they wouldn't be directly involved in combat. Your ignorance just makes my barely 5 figure salary doing ###### you could never handle seem so worth it knowing that it's probably you I'm protecting.
<!--quoteo(post=1962812:date=Aug 14 2012, 11:39 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 11:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962812"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No smartass I'm not a contractor, and they wouldn't be directly involved in combat. Your ignorance just makes my barely 5 figure salary doing ###### you could never handle seem so worth it knowing that it's probably you I'm protecting.
<!--quoteo(post=1962806:date=Aug 14 2012, 08:35 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 08:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962806"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->These were actually not "Polite" responses. These were actually a bunch of kids calling me a noob simply cause I said that this game needs anti-cheat asap. Why am I immediately called a noob for saying that someone was cheating when I explicitly said from the start that I rarely ever call someone a cheater but this case was different. I'm not a newbie to the game I've been playing a long time. These guys were cheating and that's all there is to it. If you had been on aliens you'd see that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't call you a noob. I simply explained how the gameplay affected you and your alien team. You confirmed that the rines had y'all to a single hive. That guy in ball court was probably sniping you with level 1, 2, 3, weapons. Did you try getting some of your teammates to go around, maybe get a lerk to swoop in and spore blind him while y'all took him out?
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<!--quoteo(post=1962811:date=Aug 14 2012, 06:38 PM:name=dePARA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dePARA @ Aug 14 2012, 06:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962811"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nice therory, but did you ever saw the best Starcraft players? Im sure they are faster than 500ms
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY...feature=related</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> This is actually not a terribly good example as these keypresses are just hammered in over and over again over years, which has nothing to do with reaction time or anything else but muscle memory.
<!--quoteo(post=1962819:date=Aug 14 2012, 11:43 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 11:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962819"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yea you're real tough behind a computer screen<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Says the guy who makes videos about <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%203.html" target="_blank">fat chicks</a> and how much he <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%204.html" target="_blank">hates nerds</a>?
Also, in b4 the lock, which seem inevitable at this point.
<!--quoteo(post=1962824:date=Aug 14 2012, 09:44 AM:name=Dghelneshi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dghelneshi @ Aug 14 2012, 09:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is actually not a terribly good example as these keypresses are just hammered in over and over again over years, which has nothing to do with reaction time or anything else but muscle memory.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, not reaction time that's just the speed of how he does things. If you look at what he's doing he's not reacting to anything he's just doing.
<!--quoteo(post=1962826:date=Aug 14 2012, 09:45 AM:name=MiniH0wie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MiniH0wie @ Aug 14 2012, 09:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962826"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And you're acting no differently...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd gladly have a face to face about it, maybe people would be more civil. I know in real life people generally don't act like ill mannered punks while having a normal conversation.
<!--quoteo(post=1962825:date=Aug 14 2012, 11:45 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Aug 14 2012, 11:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962825"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Says the guy who makes videos about <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%203.html" target="_blank">fat chicks</a> and how much he <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%204.html" target="_blank">hates nerds</a>?
Also, in b4 the lock, which seem inevitable at this point.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow, if this is the same guy....Unbelieveable!
I'm done here as this guy lost any creditability he may have had.
<!--quoteo(post=1962806:date=Aug 14 2012, 08:35 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 08:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962806"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->These guys were cheating and that's all there is to it. If you had been on aliens you'd see that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The guy might have been cheating, but more than likely he was just outplaying you. If you were trying to bum rush him without leap then that is a ID10t error on your part. Use the vents, use the other entrances. Use your damn teammates to implement a strategy and kick them out of ball court.
<!--quoteo(post=1962841:date=Aug 14 2012, 10:01 AM:name=VoodooHex)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VoodooHex @ Aug 14 2012, 10:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962841"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The guy might have been cheating, but more than likely he was just outplaying you. If you were trying to bum rush him without leap then that is a ID10t error on your part. Use the vents, use the other entrances. Use your damn teammates to implement a strategy and kick them out of ball court.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's the thing, it wasn't just me alone running down the hallway it was everyone, coming from vents, coming from the ceiling the wall anywhere he tracked us instantly and shot as soon as we came into view. And it doesn't matter if no one believes me, the fact is the game needs anti-cheat and then there wouldn't be much question.
The game need a cheat reporting section on the forum. Technical measures works only so much. Closing the (crappy) threads about cheat will not solve the problem. No, nobody knows who are the server admins.
Cheat reporting section rules :
- Cheat report without any kind of documents (screen, videos, game state recording, ...) gives an automatic one week ban. - Any cheat discussion is phased to the cheat reporting section.
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I've said we need a server admin contact page/thread. Currently no way for contacting the server operators other than here. (no MOTD etc,) So moderators closing threads always feels unfair.
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<!--quoteo(post=1962741:date=Aug 14 2012, 04:08 PM:name=ellnic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ellnic @ Aug 14 2012, 04:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962741"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The ammout of new players that claim people are cheating is staggering. I have never seen anyone accused untill this influx from the totalbuiscuit videos. You have to undersand that a lot of players have been playing for years and for a new player like your self its not that hard for the older players to take a lot of you out befor dying them selves wherther you are an alien or marine. Just keep practicing and you will get better and you will see how good you can become compared to newer players. But if you have proof of them cheating please show us, I am sure something can be done about it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1962806:date=Aug 14 2012, 05:35 PM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 05:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962806"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->These were actually not "Polite" responses. These were actually a bunch of kids calling me a noob simply cause I said that this game needs anti-cheat asap. Why am I immediately called a noob for saying that someone was cheating when I explicitly said from the start that I rarely ever call someone a cheater but this case was different. I'm not a newbie to the game I've been playing a long time. These guys were cheating and that's all there is to it. If you had been on aliens you'd see that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where did I call you a noob? and I was being polite. Also I read through the thread and no one was calling you a noob, you just assumed it. Then with all your hostility I politly asked you to read the Community Guidelines. Yet you are still being impolite and swearing despite the Guidelines being as simple as possible.
<!--quoteo(post=1962802:date=Aug 14 2012, 05:33 PM:name=ellnic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ellnic @ Aug 14 2012, 05:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962802"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a note, I think you may want to read these:<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/community" target="_blank">Community Guidelines</a>. They are small and simple so as you put it 'check your attitude' please. There is no reason to be hostile, Thank you<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1962775:date=Aug 14 2012, 09:00 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 09:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962775"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Let me be perfectly clear with you
2x Nvidia GTX 580 in <!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><!--coloro:#8B0000--><span style="color:#8B0000"><!--/coloro-->crossfire<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> SLI
<!--quoteo(post=1962825:date=Aug 14 2012, 09:45 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Aug 14 2012, 09:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962825"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Says the guy who makes videos about <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%203.html" target="_blank">fat chicks</a> and how much he <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%204.html" target="_blank">hates nerds</a>?
Also, in b4 the lock, which seem inevitable at this point.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. I guess the kid in the video had no choice but to join the military after exposing the hate in his heart. I wouldn't hire him.
Anyways, I'm hoping for anti-cheating software too as long as it doesn't affect your visual mods since UWE has added a few annoyances.
I hope the game hasn't really been infected by cheater yet. I hate hearing that ><.
<!--quoteo(post=1962892:date=Aug 14 2012, 10:17 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 10:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962892"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Obviously you're retarded because SLI is nvidia and ATI did xfire. Thanks for playing<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1962885:date=Aug 14 2012, 11:11 AM:name=CobraCommander)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CobraCommander @ Aug 14 2012, 11:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962885"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wow. I guess the kid in the video had no choice but to join the military after exposing the hate in his heart. I wouldn't hire him.
Anyways, I'm hoping for anti-cheating software too as long as it doesn't affect your visual mods since UWE has added a few annoyances.
I hope the game hasn't really been infected by cheater yet. I hate hearing that ><.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was already in at that point, and honestly could care less what you'd do. See I don't like fat chicks who think they're hot and act like their laziness should be admired, and the nerd video was about the people who neglect their kids to play WoW.
See unless you actually watch the video you have no idea wtf you're talking about and you just sound like a ignorant ass hole yourself.
<!--quoteo(post=1962894:date=Aug 14 2012, 02:18 PM:name=Ryne)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ryne @ Aug 14 2012, 02:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962894"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can't tell if trolling or serious.....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> trolling. not bad for a rookie.
*grabs popcon* let the show continue. Guys calm down! If the game is final, people going to do lua scripts, i think there some way's to create anti-cheat suff, like if you are faster then X you get kicked or insta ban.
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<ol type='1'><li>Getting so upset over one encounter with a possible cheater. Like it's never happened to him before in any game.</li><li>Reacting hyper offended to relatively polite replies. </li><li>Going to the trouble of posting full specs and over-sized pictures of his expensive rig. "Hey guys, look at me!"</li><li>Trying to bring psychology and brain-function into the argument.</li></ol>
Why???? The whole thing screams over-compensating to me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These were actually not "Polite" responses. These were actually a bunch of kids calling me a noob simply cause I said that this game needs anti-cheat asap. Why am I immediately called a noob for saying that someone was cheating when I explicitly said from the start that I rarely ever call someone a cheater but this case was different. I'm not a newbie to the game I've been playing a long time. These guys were cheating and that's all there is to it. If you had been on aliens you'd see that.
Nice therory, but did you ever saw the best Starcraft players? Im sure they are faster than 500ms
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY...feature=related</a>
No smartass I'm not a contractor, and they wouldn't be directly involved in combat. Your ignorance just makes my barely 5 figure salary doing ###### you could never handle seem so worth it knowing that it's probably you I'm protecting.
<img src="http://www.davidsirritation.com/atwork.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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Yea you're real tough behind a computer screen
I didn't call you a noob. I simply explained how the gameplay affected you and your alien team. You confirmed that the rines had y'all to a single hive. That guy in ball court was probably sniping you with level 1, 2, 3, weapons. Did you try getting some of your teammates to go around, maybe get a lerk to swoop in and spore blind him while y'all took him out?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY...feature=related</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is actually not a terribly good example as these keypresses are just hammered in over and over again over years, which has nothing to do with reaction time or anything else but muscle memory.
Says the guy who makes videos about <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%203.html" target="_blank">fat chicks</a> and how much he <a href="http://www.davidsirritation.com/Videos/episode%204.html" target="_blank">hates nerds</a>?
Also, in b4 the lock, which seem inevitable at this point.
And you're acting no differently...
Yep, not reaction time that's just the speed of how he does things. If you look at what he's doing he's not reacting to anything he's just doing.
I'd gladly have a face to face about it, maybe people would be more civil. I know in real life people generally don't act like ill mannered punks while having a normal conversation.
Also, in b4 the lock, which seem inevitable at this point.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow, if this is the same guy....Unbelieveable!
I'm done here as this guy lost any creditability he may have had.
The guy might have been cheating, but more than likely he was just outplaying you. If you were trying to bum rush him without leap then that is a ID10t error on your part. Use the vents, use the other entrances. Use your damn teammates to implement a strategy and kick them out of ball court.
That's the thing, it wasn't just me alone running down the hallway it was everyone, coming from vents, coming from the ceiling the wall anywhere he tracked us instantly and shot as soon as we came into view. And it doesn't matter if no one believes me, the fact is the game needs anti-cheat and then there wouldn't be much question.
Cheat reporting section rules :
- Cheat report without any kind of documents (screen, videos, game state recording, ...) gives an automatic one week ban.
- Any cheat discussion is phased to the cheat reporting section.
Currently no way for contacting the server operators other than here. (no MOTD etc,)
So moderators closing threads always feels unfair.
Anyone feel free to contact me for any 420 server issue.
Either PM or add me on steam (i'm the only ironhorse with a lerk avatar)
<!--quoteo(post=1962806:date=Aug 14 2012, 05:35 PM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Aug 14 2012, 05:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962806"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->These were actually not "Polite" responses. These were actually a bunch of kids calling me a noob simply cause I said that this game needs anti-cheat asap. Why am I immediately called a noob for saying that someone was cheating when I explicitly said from the start that I rarely ever call someone a cheater but this case was different. I'm not a newbie to the game I've been playing a long time. These guys were cheating and that's all there is to it. If you had been on aliens you'd see that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where did I call you a noob? and I was being polite. Also I read through the thread and no one was calling you a noob, you just assumed it. Then with all your hostility I politly asked you to read the Community Guidelines. Yet you are still being impolite and swearing despite the Guidelines being as simple as possible.
<!--quoteo(post=1962802:date=Aug 14 2012, 05:33 PM:name=ellnic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ellnic @ Aug 14 2012, 05:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962802"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a note, I think you may want to read these:<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/community" target="_blank">Community Guidelines</a>. They are small and simple so as you put it 'check your attitude' please. There is no reason to be hostile, Thank you<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2x Nvidia GTX 580 in <!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><!--coloro:#8B0000--><span style="color:#8B0000"><!--/coloro-->crossfire<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
SLI
This.
No self-respecting system builder would ever mix these up.
Also, in b4 the lock, which seem inevitable at this point.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. I guess the kid in the video had no choice but to join the military after exposing the hate in his heart. I wouldn't hire him.
Anyways, I'm hoping for anti-cheating software too as long as it doesn't affect your visual mods since UWE has added a few annoyances.
I hope the game hasn't really been infected by cheater yet. I hate hearing that ><.
No self-respecting system builder would ever mix these up.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obviously you're retarded because SLI is nvidia and ATI did xfire. Thanks for playing
Can't tell if trolling or serious.....
Anyways, I'm hoping for anti-cheating software too as long as it doesn't affect your visual mods since UWE has added a few annoyances.
I hope the game hasn't really been infected by cheater yet. I hate hearing that ><.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was already in at that point, and honestly could care less what you'd do. See I don't like fat chicks who think they're hot and act like their laziness should be admired, and the nerd video was about the people who neglect their kids to play WoW.
See unless you actually watch the video you have no idea wtf you're talking about and you just sound like a ignorant ass hole yourself.
trolling. not bad for a rookie.
Guys calm down! If the game is final, people going to do lua scripts, i think there some way's to create anti-cheat suff, like if you are faster then X you get kicked or insta ban.