Bad performance? Some hints and tips
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<div class="IPBDescription">A single topic for this</div>An attempt to help people with performance, after seeing numerous post about this I decided to make a single topic for this.
<b>If you have a laptop with both Intel and Nvidia graphics, try below:</b>
<!--quoteo(post=2003295:date=Oct 31 2012, 09:03 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Oct 31 2012, 09:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003295"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Basically, you'll want to do this except for Natural Selection 2:
<a href="http://imgur.com/GGY61" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/GGY61.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Start NS2 with high priority</b> - <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117259&view=findpost&p=2015435" target="_blank">source</a>
Open notepath, put in below line:
Start /high NS2.exe
Save it as "NS2.bat" next to the NS2.exe file in your steam folder, default location: C:\program files x86\Steam\<accountname>\common files\Natural Selection 2\
Make sure Steam is running and then run the NS2.bat file.
<b>Use r_stats to see if your GPU or CPU is the bottleneck</b>
If it says "waiting for GPU" then the cause is the videocard, try lowering settings or if possible, upgrading.
Is above not the case?
Help UWE with below:
<b>Performance log</b>
<!--quoteo(post=2012992:date=Nov 6 2012, 08:14 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Nov 6 2012, 08:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2012992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For those wishing simply to contribute to performance in ns2 , possibly helping the cause of your slow downs for everyone down the road yet without an immediate fix for you personally... Please submit a performance log of the most polarizing instance of fps drop by typing <b>p_logall </b>to create a round long log of your performance. The log is saved in your %appdata% folder (Ctrl+R, fill in %appdata%, hit enter, browse to Natural Selection 2, find <b>client-<number>-<number>.plog</b>) at the end of a round or exit and you can zip it up and link it<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in short:
<ul><li>press ~ to open the console</li><li>Type p_logall and hit enter</li><li>Join a server, play a round (until marines or kharaa win)</li><li>Exit NS2, browse to %appdata%\Natural Selection 2%: press Windows key + R, copy paste the following: "%appdata%\Natural Selection 2" and hit enter.</li><li>Find the logfile, it will be named similar to "client-1225-103821.plog", upload the contents of this file to pastebin.com and post the link or attach it using the forum attach feature.</li></ul>
<b>Profiler</b>
Or send a screenshot with the profiler open, instructions from <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?act=findpost&pid=2044439" target="_blank">here</a>:
<!--quoteo(post=2044439:date=Dec 12 2012, 04:51 PM:name=xtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xtal @ Dec 12 2012, 04:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2044439"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not from support but maybe you should post screenshots from in-game profiler. Maybe we will figure out something from them. Open console (key ~), type <b>profile</b>, now space key freeze profiler and you can expand/contract tree. Post screenshots showing expanded tree in places where violet bars are biggest - where engine is working most intensive.
Example screenshot from profiler:
<img src="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/302/2012112500060thread1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Game on SSD</b>
<!--quoteo(post=2046037:date=Dec 15 2012, 05:26 AM:name=Savant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Savant @ Dec 15 2012, 05:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046037"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In what wasn't given much publicity, Valve changed the Steam client so that you can now install games to different hard drives <b>at the same time</b>. While you used to have to have all your games in the same directory; now you can specify a new directory on <i>another </i>drive. You can only have ONE directory with games per drive though.
How does this help?
If you're like many people you have an SSD drive running your OS. You also don't have Steam on the SSD since your games takes up a ton of space. So if you delete and reinstall NS2, you could install it into a directory on your SSD. While that won't fix any internal game performance issues, it will take out any possible chance that the hard drive will bottleneck your performance.
To do this, first create a directory on your SSD. I just called it Steam off the root. Once done, when you install there will be an option that says "Choose drive to install to". If this is your first time installing to a new drive you will get a chance to pick the directory. After that you can only pick the drive and they all go in the same directory on that drive.
I know it's not much, but every bit helps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Below information might be outdated:</b>
To open the console, press ~
<b>FPS performance</b>
To show fps and other details: <i>r_stats 1</i>
<!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Ripped from <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117155&view=findpost&p=1914681" target="_blank"> this person's</a> post:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
To improve performance:
r_atmospherics false
r_bloom false
r_shadows false
r_instancing true
r_fog false
r_aa false
Note: these will be reset the next map change!
To make these settings permanent:
<b>Menu Mod is currently broken <i>and</i> forbidden in competitive play.</b>
<strike>Install this NS2 mod for a more efficient menu:
<a href="http://unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113246" target="_blank">http://unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?...=113246&hl=</a>
Edit the file in the fsmod folder "menumod/autoexec/" and add this:</strike>
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_bloom false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_aa false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_atmospherics false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadows false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_fog false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadowsfade true")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_instancing false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_flash false")<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
You can run above commands in the console manually. (Example: press ~, enter: "r_fog false", hit enter)
Having a high spec machine will improve performance to some extend.
Keep in mind, NS2 is still in beta at the time of writing, improvements to FPS and network performance will be made slowly over time.
Type <i>profiler </i>in console to get detailed information as to what is going on. As per advice of playtester <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117155&view=findpost&p=1914619" target="_blank">Kouji_San </a>
Screenshots of this can be posted to this topic.
<b>Network performance</b>
Assuming the following things:
<ul><li>You're not downloading or uploading anything at the moment nor is anyone at your LAN</li><li>Your connection is stable</li></ul>After joining a server, enter the command: <i>net_stats</i>
This will show a number of things including tickrate.
If the tickrate is getting below 20, consider trying another server, as the server is not up to the task.
The menumod mentioned above will also show tickrate!
<b>If anyone has suggestions or corrections for the topic start, please let me know!</b>
Thanks to ScardyBob and dux for the corrections and improvements.
Edit: menu mod information was outdated, updated.
<b>If you have a laptop with both Intel and Nvidia graphics, try below:</b>
<!--quoteo(post=2003295:date=Oct 31 2012, 09:03 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Oct 31 2012, 09:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003295"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Basically, you'll want to do this except for Natural Selection 2:
<a href="http://imgur.com/GGY61" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/GGY61.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Start NS2 with high priority</b> - <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117259&view=findpost&p=2015435" target="_blank">source</a>
Open notepath, put in below line:
Start /high NS2.exe
Save it as "NS2.bat" next to the NS2.exe file in your steam folder, default location: C:\program files x86\Steam\<accountname>\common files\Natural Selection 2\
Make sure Steam is running and then run the NS2.bat file.
<b>Use r_stats to see if your GPU or CPU is the bottleneck</b>
If it says "waiting for GPU" then the cause is the videocard, try lowering settings or if possible, upgrading.
Is above not the case?
Help UWE with below:
<b>Performance log</b>
<!--quoteo(post=2012992:date=Nov 6 2012, 08:14 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Nov 6 2012, 08:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2012992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For those wishing simply to contribute to performance in ns2 , possibly helping the cause of your slow downs for everyone down the road yet without an immediate fix for you personally... Please submit a performance log of the most polarizing instance of fps drop by typing <b>p_logall </b>to create a round long log of your performance. The log is saved in your %appdata% folder (Ctrl+R, fill in %appdata%, hit enter, browse to Natural Selection 2, find <b>client-<number>-<number>.plog</b>) at the end of a round or exit and you can zip it up and link it<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in short:
<ul><li>press ~ to open the console</li><li>Type p_logall and hit enter</li><li>Join a server, play a round (until marines or kharaa win)</li><li>Exit NS2, browse to %appdata%\Natural Selection 2%: press Windows key + R, copy paste the following: "%appdata%\Natural Selection 2" and hit enter.</li><li>Find the logfile, it will be named similar to "client-1225-103821.plog", upload the contents of this file to pastebin.com and post the link or attach it using the forum attach feature.</li></ul>
<b>Profiler</b>
Or send a screenshot with the profiler open, instructions from <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?act=findpost&pid=2044439" target="_blank">here</a>:
<!--quoteo(post=2044439:date=Dec 12 2012, 04:51 PM:name=xtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xtal @ Dec 12 2012, 04:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2044439"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not from support but maybe you should post screenshots from in-game profiler. Maybe we will figure out something from them. Open console (key ~), type <b>profile</b>, now space key freeze profiler and you can expand/contract tree. Post screenshots showing expanded tree in places where violet bars are biggest - where engine is working most intensive.
Example screenshot from profiler:
<img src="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/302/2012112500060thread1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Game on SSD</b>
<!--quoteo(post=2046037:date=Dec 15 2012, 05:26 AM:name=Savant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Savant @ Dec 15 2012, 05:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046037"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In what wasn't given much publicity, Valve changed the Steam client so that you can now install games to different hard drives <b>at the same time</b>. While you used to have to have all your games in the same directory; now you can specify a new directory on <i>another </i>drive. You can only have ONE directory with games per drive though.
How does this help?
If you're like many people you have an SSD drive running your OS. You also don't have Steam on the SSD since your games takes up a ton of space. So if you delete and reinstall NS2, you could install it into a directory on your SSD. While that won't fix any internal game performance issues, it will take out any possible chance that the hard drive will bottleneck your performance.
To do this, first create a directory on your SSD. I just called it Steam off the root. Once done, when you install there will be an option that says "Choose drive to install to". If this is your first time installing to a new drive you will get a chance to pick the directory. After that you can only pick the drive and they all go in the same directory on that drive.
I know it's not much, but every bit helps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Below information might be outdated:</b>
To open the console, press ~
<b>FPS performance</b>
To show fps and other details: <i>r_stats 1</i>
<!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Ripped from <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117155&view=findpost&p=1914681" target="_blank"> this person's</a> post:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
To improve performance:
r_atmospherics false
r_bloom false
r_shadows false
r_instancing true
r_fog false
r_aa false
Note: these will be reset the next map change!
To make these settings permanent:
<b>Menu Mod is currently broken <i>and</i> forbidden in competitive play.</b>
<strike>Install this NS2 mod for a more efficient menu:
<a href="http://unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113246" target="_blank">http://unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?...=113246&hl=</a>
Edit the file in the fsmod folder "menumod/autoexec/" and add this:</strike>
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_bloom false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_aa false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_atmospherics false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadows false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_fog false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadowsfade true")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_instancing false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_flash false")<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
You can run above commands in the console manually. (Example: press ~, enter: "r_fog false", hit enter)
Having a high spec machine will improve performance to some extend.
Keep in mind, NS2 is still in beta at the time of writing, improvements to FPS and network performance will be made slowly over time.
Type <i>profiler </i>in console to get detailed information as to what is going on. As per advice of playtester <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117155&view=findpost&p=1914619" target="_blank">Kouji_San </a>
Screenshots of this can be posted to this topic.
<b>Network performance</b>
Assuming the following things:
<ul><li>You're not downloading or uploading anything at the moment nor is anyone at your LAN</li><li>Your connection is stable</li></ul>After joining a server, enter the command: <i>net_stats</i>
This will show a number of things including tickrate.
If the tickrate is getting below 20, consider trying another server, as the server is not up to the task.
The menumod mentioned above will also show tickrate!
<b>If anyone has suggestions or corrections for the topic start, please let me know!</b>
Thanks to ScardyBob and dux for the corrections and improvements.
Edit: menu mod information was outdated, updated.
This discussion has been closed.
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my personal experience (and also that of some others) is that reducing the detail level usually doesn't help that much. lowering the resolution can help a lot though, so you might want to consider playing on a low resolution with high detail settings.
Yeah, I've reported the issue, but I don't think UWE will get to it anytime soon. In the meantime, you're options are either to retype those commands into console on every mapchange/new server (or death, in the case of r_fog) or run <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=113246" target="_blank">fsfod's menumod</a> with the commands that <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=116889&view=findpost&p=1910894" target="_blank">eh? has specified</a>:
<!--quoteo(post=1910894:date=Mar 7 2012, 02:21 AM:name=eh?)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (eh? @ Mar 7 2012, 02:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1910894"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If anyone is frustrated by having to re-enter the graphics setting commands over and over I reccomend grabbing<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=113246" target="_blank"> fsfod's GUI</a> at the moment and take a look at the autoexec directory under the root directory.
./menumod/autoexec/
You can put scripts there to be autoexec on connection to server,
for instance i have the file lowres_connected.lua which contains:
<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain' style='height:200px;white-space:pre;overflow:auto'>Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_bloom false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_aa false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_atmospherics false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadows false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_fog false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadowsfade false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_instancing false")
Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_flash false")</div>
and it gets executed on every server connect for me, i just have to optionally do r_fog 0 on each death.
Also nice that there are examples there that will autoopen server browser too for you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks, fixed.
<!--quoteo(post=1918337:date=Mar 27 2012, 01:12 AM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Mar 27 2012, 01:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1918337"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><stuff><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Awesome, added.
I find that the detail level makes a big difference, as does the res. Have nearly bit the bullet and tend to run at "ridiculously awful".
Am running ATI HD 3870x2, CF'd with an HD3870. Windows 7 x64, Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3000MHz.
Can anyone comment if this is correct or is it just me?
Why would you disable instancing to increase performance? Even though I'm not sure it's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometry_instancing" target="_blank">Geometry Instancing</a>, it seems to be something that should increase performance when on. If I recall correctly, they are using some kind of instancing for physics calculations.
Also, this is still in the autoexec example, which is kinda the opposite of what you want to do:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Shared.ConsoleCommand("r_shadowsfade false")<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Also, this is still in the autoexec example, which is kinda the opposite of what you want to do:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks, corrected.
FPS is not related to the amount of memory on the 3Dcard, it is mostly related to server performance, ping and choke of the engine. During big battles, the FPS drop is still too high and is dependant on CPU.
Newer CPU's will get 20-30FPS end game
Older or lower speed (Ghz) CPU's will get around 15-25 end game.
And some people are reporting even worse during end game ~5-10FPS (probably related to old drivers, compatibility issues and playing on low end servers), I'm hoping for the new physics changes and Max's Hitch Be Gone Magic to slap these FPS and Hitch issues up a notch. Well down a notch for the Hitch part :P
Newer CPU's will get 20-30FPS end game
Older or lower speed (Ghz) CPU's will get around 15-25 end game.
And some people are reporting even worse during end game ~5-10FPS (probably related to old drivers, compatibility issues and playing on low end servers), I'm hoping for the new physics changes and Max's Hitch Be Gone Magic to slap these FPS and Hitch issues up a notch. Well down a notch for the Hitch part :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If the card has less memory, the fps can be effected because it cannot store enough of the relevant information at hand, that is why higher resolution textures benefit from GPU's with higher memory limits. I am not sure on what you mean by fps being related to server performance?
I'm aware what people get but it feels way out of whack from other games that look more graphically intensive, I don't feel 25fps on my setup in NS2 is where it should be at. Even my CPU is a quadcore at 4GHz.
look at net_stats: if you receive insufficient updates per second, it means your computer has to predict (=compute) several frames until the next update.
edit: you can see it explained by a dev here: <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=119688&st=40&p=1956388&#entry1956388" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...p;#entry1956388</a>
but i think you are right about the gpu memory. it should be similar to RAM: the access speed is quite important whereas the storage size in MB is only relevant if the data does not fit in (which will result in pages being stored and retrieved from your slow disc).
AFAIK the game doesn't load everything into memory yet, during the map loading process. And the things that are causing the biggest hitch issues right now is the game code attached to the stuff loading into memory (structures and players), which is indeed running on the CPU.
<b>nVidia drivers (as of 301.42) do not recognize NS2.exe as needing to run on the nVidia GPU</b>, so it runs on the Intel GPU by default (and it sucks that way). It works great with all settings except anti-aliasing on high on my GT 540M, but I had to manually add the profile for NS2.exe.
<img src="http://omega359.info/nvns2.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Thanks for the tip!
What are your PC specs?
Wondering if it is the Intel onboard vs GPU dedicated chip thing.
AMD quad-core at 3.2 GHz
6 GiB of DDR3
Radeon HD 6870
so if it is an Intel issue then this seems to agree. Additionally if you want to run NS2 in high priority by default change the shortcut to open it up - in my case I made an NS2.bat in the same folder as NS2.exe and have it contain the line
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->Start /high NS2.exe<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
then put a shortcut to that on my desktop (changing its icon to be the same as NS2.exe's) and that means I don't have to think about manually changing the priority when opening the game. There's no way to do it through Steam as yet but there seems to be suggestions that you can add a "-high" flag to the Steam launch options, but I believe this has to have support coded into the game in order to work. Of course different processes can request higher priorities if told to, so it might be something worth programming into the engine.
I play with Oclussion in Medium, and I have Intel C2Q 3400mhz, 4gb ram and GTX470 with OC, and i Have the last Drivers with my graphic card, obviously, my PC is not the problem.
Unless my msi afterburn overlay is wrong, my gpu is working at around 90-95% all the time im playing ns2.
Above a certain GPU performance level it does not matter which settings you choose. The GPU can easily handle it and the bottleneck is the CPU.
AMD quad-core at 3.2 GHz
6 GiB of DDR3
Radeon HD 6870
so if it is an Intel issue then this seems to agree. Additionally if you want to run NS2 in high priority by default change the shortcut to open it up - in my case I made an NS2.bat in the same folder as NS2.exe and have it contain the line
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->Start /high NS2.exe<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
then put a shortcut to that on my desktop (changing its icon to be the same as NS2.exe's) and that means I don't have to think about manually changing the priority when opening the game. There's no way to do it through Steam as yet but there seems to be suggestions that you can add a "-high" flag to the Steam launch options, but I believe this has to have support coded into the game in order to work. Of course different processes can request higher priorities if told to, so it might be something worth programming into the engine.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bloody Hell. This worked. My framerate was always pretty good but I would have some bizarre 'imaginary' lag. It would feel like 4 fps even though r_stats would tell me I was getting 50 fps. I just created a text file copied "Start /high NS2.exe" into it and then renamed the file NS2.bat
Now my game doesn't suck. This needs to be written everywhere for AMD. What ever UWE did this fixes the problem. I know there are others who have Phenoms who have the exact same problem. Thank you Tesseract! <3 <3 <3 <3
Now my game doesn't suck. This needs to be written everywhere for AMD. What ever UWE did this fixes the problem. I know there are others who have Phenoms who have the exact same problem. Thank you Tesseract! <3 <3 <3 <3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have an AMD Phenom 9150e x4 1.8ghz OCd to 2ghz and setting the priority to HIGH did not make a noticeable difference. For me the only thing that has helped just a little bit is enabling texture streaming. I still get low FPS but its more consistent unlike before it would jump around from 5fps to 20, to 30, to 2, etc making it impossible to aim. With texture streaming ON it gets low during lots of combat but stays around 15-20fps and is consistent so I can at least adjust to the low framerate and kinda aim a little bit.