Throwing Grenades ike its WW1

OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Grenades = WTF</div>Hello, any chance a dev could take a look at a modern grenade launcher?

I have used them befor in a real life application, they go like 160 meters, okay in the bush they are best used to hit trees above enemy locations at 20m but *man* do those suckers fly, the Grenades in NS2 are just lol, I saw a marine fire one, another marine walked in front of him and it *bounced back* ... like damm, way to forget your 'tech dev' humans, no wonder the Khara are such a threat.

Have you ever seen someone hit within the 14m arming range? Thats like having a 40mm hole punched several cms into your chest....and god help you if it's further than 14m and the warhead is fused....

This isn't HL1 right? Do you remember that crazy 'ball of whiz' thing?

Just saying.................... :)
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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    They've said this is temporary. Several times.
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  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    Grenades bouncing off friendlies is a little silly, yes... But that's gonna be a hard problem to solve without turning friendly-fire on.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    Yes we should give marines near instant hit contact detonated explosives which can blow holes in the terrain and instantly kill anything near them, because it's realistic.

    I foresee no issues with this whatsoever.
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  • ZeikkoZeikko Join Date: 2007-12-16 Member: 63179Members, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester
    So first you complain about the grenades flying slower compared to real life? And then you complain that they don't deal enough collision damage when they hit an object compared to real life? Maybe the lower velocity is the reason for the nonexisting collision damage?

    And about the arming range. I remember reading that the grenades have a bacteria sensor that detonates them only when the grenade touches an alien or internal timer of the grenade elapses. I guess whip's have some kind of antibacterial coating to bypass this mechanic.
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  • PeabushPeabush Join Date: 2007-07-13 Member: 61575Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    No idea which grenade launcher you were using. But the one I carry goes out to 300 meters.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    This is an indoors grenade launcher, designed specifically by the TSA to allow safely attacking around corners (since marines can't lean), and the payload reduced proportionally to not blow holes in the space stations and ships they usually fight in. Marines are immune to friendly fire from the grenades because nanites.
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  • Tool8Tool8 Join Date: 2012-01-01 Member: 139405Members
    edited February 2012
    This is one of the many cases where Gameplay > Realism. :)
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  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905519:date=Feb 21 2012, 07:09 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Feb 21 2012, 07:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is an indoors grenade launcher, designed specifically by the TSA to allow safely attacking around corners (since marines can't lean), and the payload reduced proportionally to not blow holes in the space stations and ships they usually fight in. Marines are immune to friendly fire from the grenades because nanites.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    :D
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  • countbasiecountbasie Join Date: 2008-12-27 Member: 65884Members
    Ok, and now the shotgun spread!
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  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1905519:date=Feb 21 2012, 02:09 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Feb 21 2012, 02:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is an indoors grenade launcher, designed specifically by the TSA to allow safely attacking around corners (since marines can't lean), and the payload reduced proportionally to not blow holes in the space stations and ships they usually fight in. Marines are immune to friendly fire from the grenades because nanites.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    and somebody should tell now again that grenade launchers in ns2 are not realistic!
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Could've gone with "nanites" but whatever...
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  • djcarbinedjcarbine Join Date: 2010-08-14 Member: 73630Members
    Realism does not go hand in hand with NS2. We are in space fighting aliens with the ability to warp in buildings and harvest magical resources from holes in the ground.
    Weapons should not be realistic in games, they should be balanced
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    I like the boom!! WTF that comes with the nades, but I guess if you changed it to a sonic explosion (like ARC) it would be flashy but sorta makes sense against lifeforms only (Marines have standard TSA supplied helmet ear muffs :D)
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  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    Grenades should NOT be an insta-win weapon. It's bad enough you get to keep your smg while mounting them. I like the fact that they bounce off your team mates. Now, god forbid they require thought and coordination to use. THE HORROR!
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  • Shrike3OShrike3O Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6678Members, Constellation
    I don't mind that they bounce off teammates that much (though it has gotten me nuked a couple of times), I mind that in combination with the incredibly slow travel time. People usually zigzag around like the TSA's been handing out tetrameth in their wheaties (although, who knows, maybe they are?), and so a nice clear shot may be blocked when the grenade gets there a second or two later.
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905519:date=Feb 21 2012, 02:09 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Feb 21 2012, 02:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is an indoors grenade launcher, designed specifically by the TSA to allow safely attacking around corners (since marines can't lean), and the payload reduced proportionally to not blow holes in the space stations and ships they usually fight in. Marines are immune to friendly fire from the grenades because nanites.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    owned.
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  • Sah.Sah. Join Date: 2012-02-21 Member: 147090Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905524:date=Feb 21 2012, 07:05 PM:name=Tool8)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tool8 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905524"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is one of the many cases where Gameplay > Realism. :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    this^

    we're talking about a future world where giant plants are attacking us. Realism's not really the no.1 priority here.
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  • saltybp53saltybp53 Join Date: 2010-07-22 Member: 72675Members
    I'm a world war 1 grenade and I find the title of this thread offensive.
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  • measlesmeasles Join Date: 2007-02-26 Member: 60122Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1905678:date=Feb 22 2012, 11:57 AM:name=saltybp53)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (saltybp53 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905678"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm a world war 1 grenade and I find the title of this thread offensive.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    LOL
    <img src="http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/aea6141cc58abd3e4ab5feb5ba237233/http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/ToxicPuddles/this-thread-is-now-diamonds.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905678:date=Feb 21 2012, 08:57 PM:name=saltybp53)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (saltybp53 @ Feb 21 2012, 08:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905678"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm a world war 1 grenade and I find the title of this thread offensive.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This made my day.
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