Nuclear Dawn - First game to offer full FPS and RTS?

UzrbitalUzrbital Join Date: 2011-07-04 Member: 107858Members, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">duh hell?</div>I just checked it out, and in the game description, it says it's the first game to support RTS and FPS in the same game. Y U NO PAY ATTENTION TO NATURAL SELECTION?

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  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    edited September 2011
    Should flood their video comments on youtube with reminders of NS1
  • UzrbitalUzrbital Join Date: 2011-07-04 Member: 107858Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Note that Nuclear Dawn was released september, this year. Natural Selection 2 isn't released, but it's still a game which offers full FPS and RTS in the same game!
  • BJHBnade_spammerBJHBnade_spammer Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42431Members
    this has already been talked about there where plenty before even ns1
  • vizioNzvizioNz InversionNS2.com Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24595Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    Lets beat a dead horse some more... Search > Nuclear Dawn; you'll find this has already produced a large community discussion.
  • KalabalanaKalabalana Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22859Members
    edited September 2011
    Bought the game and have been playing it. Does not contain the depth of play NS2 does. Commanding is stale and low level, lacks the diversity of RTS games (No tech trees? I mean really?), and even NS2. Playing in game as a soldier is a little restricting, as the weapons become stale fast for some reason.

    I'd say wait for the game to hit $10 or lower if you want to pick up a game that will keep your attention for maybe 20 hours of gameplay.

    EDIT: Before anyone gets upset at me, siege kits are not a tech tree, researching something once to build a building, and then researching again, is not a tech tree, and is also the most diverse tech in this game. Guessing the developers are unimaginative.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1877142:date=Sep 27 2011, 07:40 AM:name=Kalabalana)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kalabalana @ Sep 27 2011, 07:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877142"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Bought the game and have been playing it. Does not contain the depth of play NS2 does. Commanding is stale and low level, lacks the diversity of RTS games (No tech trees? I mean really?), and even NS2. Playing in game as a soldier is a little restricting, as the weapons become stale fast for some reason.

    I'd say wait for the game to hit $10 or lower if you want to pick up a game that will keep your attention for maybe 20 hours of gameplay.

    EDIT: Before anyone gets upset at me, siege kits are not a tech tree, researching something once to build a building, and then researching again, is not a tech tree, and is also the most diverse tech in this game. Guessing the developers are unimaginative.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'd agree. Comming is 90% placing buildings with little actual strategy. Its more a FPS+Dynamic Buildings rather than a FPS/RTS hybrid.
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    It looked so bad that I wasn't going to buy it after an 11 year wait.
  • Dragon-GuardDragon-Guard Join Date: 2011-07-25 Member: 112159Members
    edited September 2011
    I actually own the game and its quite fun.
    The maps look really nice and the gameplay is just fun, the shooter is a bit of a hybrid between oldschool and newstyle.
    You need persistent aim to take down an enemy like in oldschool games with a bit of a more fast killing tactical twist to it like counterstrike.

    The com is mainly about building, yes, but without a com you will lose horribly, you need him to build powerlines, forward bases, defences and such, and with good team frontlines keep shifting quite a bit.
    The com can also give out orders to squads or players on the field so its still a RTS

    Unlike Kalabalana i actually enjoy the assault class the most, the assault rifle can pretty much kill anything except buildings (exo being a bit of an iffy spot, with their 600 hp they only go down if you get the drop on them)

    Overall i cant say its a bad game, does need some more patching and some extra tech added, thats true.
    The Exo is a bit OP, he has 600 hp and the best anti-infantry or best anti-building weapon ingame.
    Downside is, if you pick siege tech which is meant vs buildings, you also pretty much can dominate players with it IF you can hit with it, the 2nd strongest class, the assault with only 200hp dies in 2 shots of that, while the lighter classes like the support (150) or stealth (100) die in 1.

    the weapons both teams have are different, as are the buildings.

    The line about them being the first reall FPs/RTS however is bull######, but besides that its still not bad
  • KalabalanaKalabalana Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22859Members
    Unlike me? I play assault as well. I never said I didn't like the game, I ranked up to 16 in less then a day.

    My issue is with them claiming to be the first FPS/RTS, which is not only complete bs, but their game itself in it's current state isn't up to snuff with other FPS/RTS games. It's like someone organizing an amateur basketball league for kids, saying it's the first ever true basketball league (With NBA fans looking at that person like they are a moron).
  • sherpasherpa stopcommandermode Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58338Members
    FWIW ND gets really bad once you're familiar with everything. Lack of depth, lots of lethal grenades and turrets. Plays like a mod.

    The way the HUD sprites curve inwards as if they're on your helmet is cool, though.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Leave the damn horse alone, it can't be deadified any further...
  • NixxenNixxen Join Date: 2004-02-11 Member: 26401Members
    edited September 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1877202:date=Sep 28 2011, 12:29 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 28 2011, 12:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877202"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Leave the damn horse alone, it can't be deadified any further...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think the objective of killing it has long gone.
    Now there's kicking just to giggle when the squishy bits jiggle.

    Edit: Unintentional rhyme. Rapmaster N in the house!
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1877206:date=Sep 27 2011, 10:49 PM:name=Nixxen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nixxen @ Sep 27 2011, 10:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877206"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now there's kicking just to giggle when the squishy bits jiggle.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I just have to say, that's really catchy.

    --Cory
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Just got home, logged in, and lost my s### at Nixxen's post
  • tritoptritop Join Date: 2011-09-09 Member: 120632Members
    I bought ND and didn't liked it. Its just boring, it lacks atmosphere. You never have the feeling that you realy are in the game.
  • Dragon-GuardDragon-Guard Join Date: 2011-07-25 Member: 112159Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1877176:date=Sep 27 2011, 09:37 PM:name=Kalabalana)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kalabalana @ Sep 27 2011, 09:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877176"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unlike me? I play assault as well. I never said I didn't like the game, I ranked up to 16 in less then a day.

    My issue is with them claiming to be the first FPS/RTS, which is not only complete bs, but their game itself in it's current state isn't up to snuff with other FPS/RTS games. It's like someone organizing an amateur basketball league for kids, saying it's the first ever true basketball league (With NBA fans looking at that person like they are a moron).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sorry if i got it wrong but as i understood you said the soldier/assault class weapons arent that usefull anymore in lategame, something i disagree with.
    Didnt mean to say you didnt like the game, just that what i said above (although as assault vs a team of exo's is a pain)
  • BJHBnade_spammerBJHBnade_spammer Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42431Members
    needs to be moved to off topic. and stop beating the deader horse hes already rotting
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    Beating the ghost horse.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    This horse's squishy bits jiggle bits have now been officially knocked into another dimension by a squealing pig!
  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1877362:date=Sep 28 2011, 06:19 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 28 2011, 06:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877362"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This horse's squishy bits jiggle bits have now been officially knocked into another dimension by a squealing pig!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    My brain is melt.
    <img src="http://myfacewhen.com/images/239.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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