Croach instead of Infestation

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  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    Croach is an awesome name for it, but there have been some other fantastic suggestions in this thread

    +1 for Smeg (credit to Soylent_green)
    +1 for Crunk (credit to RobB)
    +1 for Taint (credit to NEX9)

    No matter what, I agree with UW that "infestation" needs to be changed and I hope they listen to the community and pick one of these excellent suggestions. Or just stick with their choice of Croach because that's right up there with the best of them.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited June 2011
    those are some good suggestions for sure, but Marrow has my vote. There's just something very alien about it!
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852366:date=Jun 13 2011, 05:08 PM:name=Supernorn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Supernorn @ Jun 13 2011, 05:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852366"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->those are some good suggestions for sure, but Marrow has my vote. There's just something very alien about it!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There's just something very alien about the spongy substance found inside animal bones? Or have you never heard that word before? I think what really sounds alien is Croach, because it isn't a word, but it is reminiscent of "cockroach" which brings to mind the insectile xenomorphs from the Alien series (whose hive structures are clearly the main influence for the Croach feature in NS2).
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    edited June 2011
    For my two cents, it should be called GORGITATION, because it is something which is REGURGITATED by a GORGE.

    edit - I also like "GURGE" as an alternative but that may be too similar to GORGE and could confuse people.

    edit 2 - Not saying my choice is better than Croach, Taint or Smeg, I like those too, thats just a little brainstorming to help out UW
  • JayArcJayArc Join Date: 2011-06-03 Member: 102391Members
    edited June 2011
    Smeg LOL
    as in Smegma, a secretion of mammalian genitals!
    How about Strain as in 'I strain when i poop'
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852370:date=Jun 13 2011, 05:27 PM:name=JayArc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JayArc @ Jun 13 2011, 05:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852370"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Smeg LOL
    as in Smegma, a secretion of mammalian genitals!
    How about Strain as in 'I strain when i poop'<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    get ur mind out of the gutter

    but I do agree that Strain is an OK suggestion. It sounds like a medical term, like a "Strain" of virus, which fits with what the Croach is supposed to be like fictitiously.
  • subshadowsubshadow Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15710Members
    If the devs absolutely want to throw Infestation out of the window, my vote goes to Strain. But only if Infestation is impossible.
    ""The strain" is outside of base." Must admit it works, while not being as powerfull as "The Infestation"
  • Paul-HewsonPaul-Hewson Join Date: 2008-02-25 Member: 63737Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Croach is longer than DI...
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852380:date=Jun 13 2011, 06:17 PM:name=Paul-Hewson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Paul-Hewson @ Jun 13 2011, 06:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852380"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Croach is longer than DI...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    "DI" is a gameplay feature, not a name that is intended to fit into the fiction of the game, it just means that instead of Croach being something mappers put in, Croach is used offensively/defensively by the alien team.
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Whatever the name will be, ppl will use the term DI because its the fastest way to tell what you mean.
  • RisingSunRisingSun Rising California Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28015Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited June 2011
    Marines would probably just call the DI "The Suck" but it doesn't work for alien side lol.

    -edit:

    I think just keep the name Dynamic Infestation and let the players be the clever ones. A shortened name will spring up fast and be a lot more accepted.
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    I say just keep croach if its really a problem, if UW doesnt like Infestation than its up to them, plus croach is pretty awesome.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    It's not up to UWE in the end really. The players will develop their own communication and naming for things. I guarantee you competitive players won't move to anything suggested in this thread so far, infestation will stay, regardless of its "official name".
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852413:date=Jun 13 2011, 08:11 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thaldarin @ Jun 13 2011, 08:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852413"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's not up to UWE in the end really.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's not up to UW to decide what players decide to call croach, but it's 100% up to UW to decide what croach is called in text in the game. Whether players decide to ignore what UW calls croach is totally irrelevant, but I have a feeling most of them won't. Because if everyone makes up their own little name for croach, nobody will be able to communicate about croach effectively. You can call it snozberries if you want, who cares? The question is what should croach be called in the fiction of the game.
  • TacotaTacota Join Date: 2009-10-12 Member: 69027Members
    edited June 2011
    +1 for croach and +1 to it atleast being changed.

    Most people who say it doesn't sound right, you must realize that is because you have already heard infestation. If they named it croach off the bad, people would be complaining about infestation. Think of Starcraft, try and think as if you just heard the word creep. If you're able to think of it as if you weren't already used to it, croach is a similar word in form. And look, creep sounds like a great name now for the 'creep' in starcraft.

    Croach sounds good to me, but continue to give more suggestions, I'm sure there are a lot of good alternatives out there. Although, try and be creative instead of just saying, "Noooo leave it", because I'm sure they probably really want to change it if they bothered to look into it like this. I agree that it should be changed. Also, if the name does get changed, continue to call it infestation if you like, people have their own names for in-game things all the time. But don't be closed-minded when it comes to changing what you call something, this early on.

    As far as, "being used to infestation already" as an argument against the change.... The game hasn't even been released yet, this is the perfect time to do stuff like this. How long we've been using that name compared to the total life of the game, is very small.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited June 2011
    How about...

    Main Entry: blood
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: red body fluid
    Synonyms: claret, <b>clot</b>, cruor, gore, hemoglobin, juice, <b>plasma</b>, sanguine fluid, vital fluid

    Main Entry: flesh
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: body tissue, skin
    Synonyms: beef, brawn, cells, corpuscles, fat, fatness, flesh and blood, food, meat, muscle, <u><b>plasm</b></u>, <b>plasma</b>, protoplasm, sinews, thews, weight

    ?

    To draw on the idea that the Kharaa are a single entity, a single "body".
  • subshadowsubshadow Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15710Members
    edited June 2011
    The fact is: "This room is infested." sounds much more powerful and way cooler then "this room is croached." Or "This room is covered in croach."

    edit: Another thing i would like to add: If a marine yells over his michrophone "INFESTATION HERE!" it has more chance of being understood in the heat of battle. If you compare it with yelling: "CROACH HERE!" It can easy be understood since it's only one syllable and when there are less syllables that you're ears are trying to decode, there's more room for error.
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    "room's fest'ing!"
  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852488:date=Jun 14 2011, 04:13 AM:name=Tacota)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tacota @ Jun 14 2011, 04:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852488"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->+1 for croach and +1 to it atleast being changed.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Croach is great, kudos to UW for coming up with that, very creative.

    Did someone already suggest "Slurm" in this thread? That is another very good suggestion.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited June 2011
    I like DI for text and Infestation for chat, at least officially. However, I don't know about you guys, but if I'm trying to relay information in the middle of a heavy assault, I'm more likely than not going to just say "They're spreading alien ###### in here".

    I mean, really, it doesn't get more simple than that.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1852645:date=Jun 14 2011, 07:50 PM:name=zex)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zex @ Jun 14 2011, 07:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852645"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did someone already suggest "Slurm" in this thread? That is another very good suggestion.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'd forever be thinking of slugs pooping slurm drink in to cans, like in futurama.
  • marsvinmarsvin Join Date: 2011-03-22 Member: 87920Members
    +1 for just keeping it on infestation. Of course it's up to UWE but "croach" feels really forced even if it makes sense technically. Being unique can be good but not if it doesn't work well. As someone else commented, DI is a great abbreviation and saying "infested" is only about a million times more intuitive than "croached". Hell I can barely type it. :p
  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2011
    Another thing that's trying to get fixed but doesnt need fixing.

    Infestation may be a long word (...) but ingame it will be abbreviated with "infest"/"infested" which is perfectly fine.
  • SquidgetSquidget Join Date: 2003-06-13 Member: 17334Members
    Not a fan of croach, doesn't feel right thematically. AKA the name would probably come from some dirty-minded soldiers. But since UWE can't really be dirty, I would think that the name would be one or more of:
    * humorous
    * suggestive, but not explicitly dirty
    * simple

    Thematically, I'm going to vote for <b>taint</b>. Obviously a dirty reference, but innocence can be plead. I did a stint in the Navy, and that was a common name bestowed upon anything found wanting.

    Alternately, if you want to honor the <i>Aliens</i> heritage, call it <b>resin</b>.
  • PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
    edited June 2011
    Croach FTW

    or how about:

    Kharrupt.
  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    I prefer infestation, but that's probably because that's what I've always known it as.

    Changing the name now feels... Arbitrary.
  • subshadowsubshadow Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15710Members
    My vote goes for one of the devs creating a poll on the forum with following question:
    What should we do with the name for DI?

    1: keep Infestation
    2: Look for another name (with Croach as first option)

    I vote option 1
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Is it safe to assume the "Infest" button will say "Encroach" instead?
  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852910:date=Jun 15 2011, 08:14 AM:name=Papayas)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Papayas @ Jun 15 2011, 08:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852910"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Kharrupt.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nice.
  • OutlawDrOutlawDr Join Date: 2009-06-21 Member: 67887Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852488:date=Jun 13 2011, 11:13 PM:name=Tacota)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tacota @ Jun 13 2011, 11:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852488"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Most people who say it doesn't sound right, you must realize that is because you have already heard infestation.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think the reason it doesn't sound right is because it feels as though there is probably a disturbing Brazilian fetish porno called "2 girls, 1 croach".
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