NS 2 Demo for pc/laptop?

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  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    Operating system: win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1,Build 7600)

    System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA

    System model: Satellite L455

    BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL

    Processor Intel® Celeron® CPU 900 @ 2.20GHz, ~2.2GHz

    Memory: 2048MB RAM

    DirectX 11
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2010
    You still haven't posted them yet...


    [edit]yeah, you ninja-posted, I was reading the thread and thought... Why hasn't he posted the specs yet :P
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816169:date=Dec 15 2010, 11:01 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Dec 15 2010, 11:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816169"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You're still haven't posted them yet...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I posted what he had asked too. edit:OPPs brb LOL! forgot something!
  • PaiSandPaiSand Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33487Members
    and the Video Card???
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Toshiba Satellite L455-S5009 is the complete modelname? Had to look it up as you neglected to post one of the more important parts, the 3dcard. Fact is you can't really call the thing in your laptop a 3dcard...


    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M


    I can tell you now, most games can't run on your computer. The celeron CPU/memory combo it uses doesn't help either...
  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1816168:date=Dec 15 2010, 01:00 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 01:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816168"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Operating system: win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1,Build 7600)

    System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA

    System model: Satellite L455

    BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL

    Processor Intel® Celeron® CPU 900 @ 2.20GHz, ~2.2GHz

    Memory: 2048MB RAM

    DirectX 11<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    the intel celeron is slow. your game will run choppy. if you can't run sc2, you wont be able to run ns2, and that means your comp needs updating, cuz i have a friend who managed to get sc2 running and he was using integrated graphics...
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    edited December 2010
    Operating system: win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1,Build 7600)

    System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA

    System model: Satellite L455

    BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL

    Processor Intel® Celeron® CPU 900 @ 2.20GHz, ~2.2GHz

    Memory: 2048MB RAM

    DirectX 11

    Name: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family

    Manufacturer: Intel Corporation

    Chip Type: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family

    DAC Type: Internal

    Approx total memory: 828 MB

    Current Display Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit)(60Hz)

    Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor

    edit: lol i forgot some stuff... edit:[i was slow cuz i could not copy paste sorry that sucked]
  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1816175:date=Dec 15 2010, 01:09 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 01:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816175"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Operating system: win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1,Build 7600)

    System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA

    System model: Satellite L455

    BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL

    Processor Intel® Celeron® CPU 900 @ 2.20GHz, ~2.2GHz

    Memory: 2048MB RAM

    DirectX 11

    Name: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family

    Manufacturer: Intel Corporation

    Chip Type: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family

    DAC Type: Internal

    Approx total memory: 828 MB

    Current Display Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit)(60Hz)

    Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor

    edit: lol i forgot some stuff...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    your answer is no. you could upgrade to the best of last year for under a grand. probably under 500. time to build a gaming desktop, you shouldn't game on laptops anyway, most of them have overheating issues.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2010
    I'm pretty sure that Intel chipset couldn't even run NS1. It is probably restricted to software mode or something...
  • extolloextollo Ping Blip Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72457Members
    intel gma adapter on that sat 455 will likely not provide a reasonable gameplay experience.

    most modern games benchmarks avg about 15fps
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    Look at my other post, i have said that SC2 works great on my laptop [dont know why from what you are telling me]
    like i can play 1st person SC 2 custom game muti yet i dont have a lag problem and everyone else does. WTF?
  • RhodriRhodri Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17575Members
    That spec will struggle with most well optimised recent releases let alone a game in NS2's current stage of development. Although to say you need 60-120fps in games is just plain wrong, it depends on lots of factors such as the type of game, what types of post processing goes on, individual sensitivity to hitching & stutter, resolution and so on. For example games that make good use of motion blur such as Crysis can get away with lower framerates than games like counter-strike that have no post effects.

    But to back to your original point - no, I would not think your laptop could play NS2.
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816181:date=Dec 15 2010, 11:17 AM:name=Rhodri)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rhodri @ Dec 15 2010, 11:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816181"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That spec will struggle with most well optimised recent releases let alone a game in NS2's current stage of development. Although to say you need 60-120fps in games is just plain wrong, it depends on lots of factors such as the type of game, what types of post processing goes on, individual sensitivity to hitching & stutter, resolution and so on. For example games that make good use of motion blur such as Crysis can get away with lower framerates than games like counter-strike that have no post effects.

    But to back to your original point - no, I would not think your laptop could play NS2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks. :[
  • PaiSandPaiSand Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33487Members
    edited December 2010
    At least not the beta, and the fault is the graphic card. With an ATI or nVidia card (above 8800M) I think you can, but not on an Intel.

    Anyway, I know there are lots of people that use a notebook for playing, but I recommend a desktop fully personalized, if you need to upgrade is a lot easier.
  • TwiggehTwiggeh Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74165Members
    As others say, forget it :/

    Celeron is a budget-processor aimed at low-spec computers for a reasonable cost.
    Same with the intel GPU, it works okay when you're just rendering 2D (desktop usage), but dies when it comes to 3D.
    You should be happy SC2 even runs tbh.
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816184:date=Dec 15 2010, 11:24 AM:name=PaiSand)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PaiSand @ Dec 15 2010, 11:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816184"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->At least not the beta, and the fault is the graphic card. With an ATI or nVidia card (above 8800M) I think you can, but not on an Intel.

    Anyway, I know there are lots of people that use a notebook for playing, but I recommend a desktop fully personalized, if you need to upgrade is a lot easier.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks. *evil thoughts* is there a way to buy that chip thing you are talking about and then replace the part in the laptop with it?
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I doubt it has a free slot for an extension card like a mobile Radeon/Geforce. With that Intel 4500M (which is also using shared memory, leeching of the RAM) It is basically a media/office PC.

    I'm actually amazed it can even run SC2...
  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816158:date=Dec 15 2010, 06:34 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 06:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816158"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks, you cant be a pro without arrogance its impossible.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    pro at what?

    you talk about about 120FPS sitting on a LAPTOP DISPLAY, which furthermore has INTEL GRAPHICS.

    get a proper gaming computer before whining about an unfinished game.
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816193:date=Dec 15 2010, 11:40 AM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Dec 15 2010, 11:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816193"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->pro at what?

    you talk about about 120FPS sitting on a LAPTOP DISPLAY, which furthermore has INTEL GRAPHICS.

    get a proper gaming computer before whining about an unfinished game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry but i dont care what a "minge/troll" like you has to say. LOL!
  • TwiggehTwiggeh Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74165Members
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816186:date=Dec 15 2010, 07:28 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 07:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816186"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks. *evil thoughts* is there a way to buy that chip thing you are talking about and then replace the part in the laptop with it?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, the GPU is integrated into the motherboard and is next to impossible to replace (you would have to buy new custom-parts from a producer and solder them manually onto the motherboard, and guess what goes where.)

    The only things you can (usually) replace on a laptop is the RAM, HDD & battery.
    So im afraid the only option you have is to buy a stationary computer for your videogaming needs.


    <!--quoteo(post=1816197:date=Dec 15 2010, 07:45 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 07:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816197"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sorry but i dont care what a "minge/troll" like you has to say. LOL!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually he's presenting you proper facts. Maybe you should read up on what a troll is, because so far you're the only one who's been trolling.
  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816133:date=Dec 15 2010, 05:00 PM:name=NurEinMensch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NurEinMensch @ Dec 15 2010, 05:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816133"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->People are so spoiled these days.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually a smooth framerate is fairly essential for being able to play online multiplayer.
  • TwiggehTwiggeh Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74165Members
    edited December 2010
  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    apparently you DO CARE if you a) respond b) within a few mins LOL!
    hehe, aint i the hypocrite now :P
  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    I like this kid, you have to upgrade computer I recommend PC instead of labtop.
  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816197:date=Dec 15 2010, 06:45 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 06:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816197"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sorry but i dont care what a "minge/troll" like you has to say. LOL!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I don't think a laptop would be able to display 120fps, most monitors have a 60-70hz refresh rate, which means they can only display a maximum of 60-70fps. 60 is also about the best the human eye can see. It comes across as perfectly smooth.

    In comparison TV usually runs at about 30fps, or 25 if you're in europe, PAL format is 25fps while NSTC is basically 30. Video encoding and capturing footage from real life however will smooth that out by blurring every frame slightly. So you don't notice it much with TVs, unless you wave your hand in front of the screen, in which case the slow refresh rate will make its sillhouette seem to teleport around.

    So 60 is good for games, 120 is needed if you want to run a game at 60fps in 3d, because the glasses flicker to show only every other frame to each eye. 120hz monitors are quite expensive however, and I don't imagine many laptops would come with them, and you wouldn't be able to see it if it did.
  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    if he was a troll, he wouldn't still be responding on page 3.
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1816204:date=Dec 15 2010, 11:56 AM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Dec 15 2010, 11:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816204"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't think a laptop would be able to display 120fps, most monitors have a 60-70hz refresh rate, which means they can only display a maximum of 60-70fps. 60 is also about the best the human eye can see. It comes across as perfectly smooth.

    In comparison TV usually runs at about 30fps, or 25 if you're in europe, PAL format is 25fps while NSTC is basically 30. Video encoding and capturing footage from real life however will smooth that out by blurring every frame slightly. So you don't notice it much with TVs, unless you wave your hand in front of the screen, in which case the slow refresh rate will make its sillhouette seem to teleport around.

    So 60 is good for games, 120 is needed if you want to run a game at 60fps in 3d, because the glasses flicker to show only every other frame to each eye. 120hz monitors are quite expensive however, and I don't imagine many laptops would come with them, and you wouldn't be able to see it if it did.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I know a few tricks to make a laptop work better, now twiggeh does too. LOL! [dont you dare tell them]
  • chaosjones17chaosjones17 Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74158Members
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1816206:date=Dec 15 2010, 11:59 AM:name=Tig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tig @ Dec 15 2010, 11:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816206"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->if he was a troll, he wouldn't still be responding on page 3.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks.
  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1816208:date=Dec 15 2010, 02:04 PM:name=chaosjones17)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chaosjones17 @ Dec 15 2010, 02:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816208"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I said troll/minge Du...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i dont know what a minge is, im american. is that like a taint or a grundle?
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1816209:date=Dec 15 2010, 07:05 PM:name=Tig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tig @ Dec 15 2010, 07:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816209"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i dont know what a minge is, im american. is that like a taint or a grundle?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not quite :P

    <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/minge" target="_blank">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/minge</a>


    GoogleFU!
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