What do aliens have left to add? (marines have alot more content)

deathshrouddeathshroud Join Date: 2010-04-10 Member: 71291Members
edited November 2010 in NS2 General Discussion
when thinknig about the alien and marine teams it seems to me that the marines have a hell of alot more units to add.

Exo-armor
Robot factory
Chaingun
jetpack
MASC

All the aliens seem to be wiating for is the onos. I honestly think the aliens need something else. Possibly thier own smobile structure (masc like) to destroy marine defenses or prehaps provide more of a support role to the aliens
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  • thecowsaysmoothecowsaysmoo Join Date: 2008-02-02 Member: 63557Members
    edited November 2010
    plz no jetpacks, how are we supposed to kill flying marines with out ranged attack on aliens side? lerks? are u kiddin me? Fade no longer flys, so marines should not be able to fly either.

    aliens are waiting for all of our second and third and forth attack moves, and abilities, all otu classes only have 1 or 2 abilities right now. and Onos.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Dynamic infestation?
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  • NurEinMenschNurEinMensch Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14056Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1811341:date=Nov 28 2010, 03:22 AM:name=thecowsaysmoo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thecowsaysmoo @ Nov 28 2010, 03:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811341"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->plz no jetpacks, how are we supposed to kill flying marines with out ranged attack on aliens side? lerks? are u kiddin me? Fade no longer flys, so marines should not be able to fly either.

    aliens are waiting for all of our second and third and forth attack moves, and abilities, all otu classes only have 1 or 2 abilities right now. and Onos.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Jetpacks should be in, but they should be more for huge/high jumps, not flying around.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Rocket boots?
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  • thecowsaysmoothecowsaysmoo Join Date: 2008-02-02 Member: 63557Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811345:date=Nov 28 2010, 03:25 AM:name=NurEinMensch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NurEinMensch @ Nov 28 2010, 03:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811345"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Jetpacks should be in, but they should be more for huge/high jumps, not flying around.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How can I kill something that flys with a melee weapon? Even lerks with their range, they are so light marines can 1 shot them.....fly into a hive, snipe the lerk, ta-da you are now invincible, literally nothing can hit u as long as u stay in the air. Aliens dont have god mode, why do marines need like 7 versions of god mode....
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited November 2010
    Why draw conclusions when the game is not even done yet... Heck there are still things to be added to the Khaara and we don't even know how the Jetty is going to work anyways...

    Onos paralize, Fades instantly blinking at the flying jetpack guy's back to swipe at him, Hydra's, Dynamic infestation slowing them down, Whips slapping them out of the air, leap biting skulks to some extend, gorge spitting or Lerks sniping them or gassing them. Just a few things I could think of which would be the bane of a jetpacker and my money is on UWE to think up even better ideas...
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  • Dank McShwaggerDank McShwagger Join Date: 2009-06-10 Member: 67784Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811348:date=Nov 27 2010, 10:28 PM:name=thecowsaysmoo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thecowsaysmoo @ Nov 27 2010, 10:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811348"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How can I kill something that flys with a melee weapon? Even lerks with their range, they are so light marines can 1 shot them.....fly into a hive, snipe the lerk, ta-da you are now invincible, literally nothing can hit u as long as u stay in the air. Aliens dont have god mode, why do marines need like 7 versions of god mode....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    the game is still so early in development... it's silly to be complaining about balance over a feature that isn't even in the game yet =/

    1. we don't know how far into the tech tree the JPs are
    2. we don't know how they work (i.e. length of flight, speed, dynamics)
    3. we don't know what other abilities aliens will have


    save your balance complaints until we have something to actually complain about.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Shift
    Shade
    Onos
    Dynamic Infestation
    like 15 non-numerical upgrades like Metabolize that give the classes more abilities or change them
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  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    edited November 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1811348:date=Nov 27 2010, 10:28 PM:name=thecowsaysmoo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thecowsaysmoo @ Nov 27 2010, 10:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811348"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><u>How can I kill something that flys with a melee weapon?</u> <u>Even lerks with their range, they are so light marines can 1 shot them</u>.....fly into a hive, snipe the lerk, ta-da you are now invincible, <u>literally nothing can hit u as long as u stay in the air.</u> Aliens dont have god mode, <u>why do marines need like 7 versions of god mode</u>....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    1. The fades in NS1 had no trouble killing jetpackers, and then their's oc's and lerk gas.

    2. I've yet to see a way to 1-shot a lerk.

    3. The jp doesn't have infinite fuel.

    4. Because marines are cooler then aliens. J1 = marines, J2 = marine-cannon-fodder
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  • thecowsaysmoothecowsaysmoo Join Date: 2008-02-02 Member: 63557Members
    edited November 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1811377:date=Nov 28 2010, 04:51 AM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Nov 28 2010, 04:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811377"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->1. The fades in NS1 had no trouble killing jetpackers, and then their's oc's and lerk gas.

    2. I've yet to see a way to 1-shot a lerk.

    3. The jp doesn't have infinite fuel.

    4. Because marines are cooler then aliens. J1 = marines, J2 = marine-cannon-fodder<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    yes I know, fades could fly in ns1 too, thats why it was no problem, cause you could fly with the jp'er, now blink doesnt fly anymore, u will just drop back to the ground. This is the EXACT problem i am talking about......Lerks and Hydra's should not be the only 2 things in the game that can kill a jp, not to mention Hydra tracking is not so great and probably wont be htiting anything flying back and forth fast around a room.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    Whips are going to be mobile, and they will have an anti-structure attack. Aliens also need another chamber and I assume they will be getting some more abiliites on the classes they do have, which is equivalent to marine weaponry. They also need the dynamic infestation which is going to have gameplay effects.
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  • PistachioPistachio Join Date: 2005-05-26 Member: 52481Members
    Just give aliens jetpacks, too. Problem solved.
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  • TwiggehTwiggeh Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74165Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811398:date=Nov 28 2010, 06:16 AM:name=Pistachio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistachio @ Nov 28 2010, 06:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811398"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just give aliens jetpacks, too. Problem solved.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Oooh flying gorge attack <3
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  • levelelevele Join Date: 2007-08-25 Member: 61978Members
    Maybe the big surprise they mentioned is another alien unit?
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  • bl1tzbl1tz Join Date: 2007-12-23 Member: 63242Members
    well i think it would be a good idea to add alien burrow
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  • zombii?zombii? Join Date: 2010-11-28 Member: 75314Members
    edited November 2010
    Personally i didnt like jet packs in NS1.... i thought they were way too easy to use and had far too much fuel. However the fact that a fade could blink up to them made it balanced. Like everyone said the game is still not finished and there will likely be many additions to the Khara. But i understand why the second poster dislikes jet packs.
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  • deathshrouddeathshroud Join Date: 2010-04-10 Member: 71291Members
    i know aliens get upgrades but so do the marines, we have yet to see alot of the secondary attacks for the current weapons yet.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811409:date=Nov 28 2010, 06:33 AM:name=levele)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levele @ Nov 28 2010, 06:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811409"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe the big surprise they mentioned is another alien unit?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What big surprise?
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811428:date=Nov 28 2010, 04:03 AM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Nov 28 2010, 04:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811428"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What big surprise?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think they're going to keep something under wraps through the beta and reveal it at launch so release day is more special.

    A new alien lifeform would be soooo sweet. So would a new marine class.
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    lerk lift pls
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  • senor_hybridosenor_hybrido Join Date: 2009-06-04 Member: 67687Members
    spore crawlers pls
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  • duxdux Tea Lady Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24371Members, NS2 Developer
    Gorge is getting an AWP.
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  • ZenoZeno Join Date: 2007-09-05 Member: 62183Members
    now the devs are trolling too


    D:
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  • FluffyMFluffyM Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75064Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811377:date=Nov 28 2010, 04:51 AM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Nov 28 2010, 04:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811377"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->2. I've yet to see a way to 1-shot a lerk.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Shotgun.
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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    the wife says: No female marine, no sell....lol

    Back on topic:

    I can't wait to see the first time a jet packer flies into a fan on my level. I love "Death Triggers".
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  • whoppaXXLwhoppaXXL Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58298Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1811398:date=Nov 27 2010, 09:16 PM:name=Pistachio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistachio @ Nov 27 2010, 09:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811398"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just give aliens jetpacks, too. Problem solved.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I just imagined a fleet of Gorge Bombers on the way to CC while the Ride of the Valkyrie plays in the background...
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811483:date=Nov 28 2010, 09:23 AM:name=Zeno)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zeno @ Nov 28 2010, 09:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811483"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->now the devs are trolling too


    D:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Jokes != trolling.
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  • TriggermanTriggerman Graphic Artist Join Date: 2004-11-10 Member: 32724Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    edited November 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1811482:date=Nov 28 2010, 05:19 AM:name=dux)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dux @ Nov 28 2010, 05:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811482"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Gorge is getting an AWP.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Best news evar.
    Now the Gorge will have belly-slide, tophat <i>and </i>AWP.

    EDIT: Updated avatar to reflect awesomeness.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1811517:date=Nov 28 2010, 05:12 PM:name=Triggerman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Triggerman @ Nov 28 2010, 05:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811517"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Best news evar.

    EDIT: Updated avatar to reflect awesomeness.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't want the Gorge to be forced to camp!!! :D
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  • FaustinianFaustinian Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73148Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1811437:date=Nov 28 2010, 03:34 AM:name=yourbonesakin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yourbonesakin @ Nov 28 2010, 03:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1811437"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think they're going to keep something under wraps through the beta and reveal it at launch so release day is more special.

    A new alien lifeform would be soooo sweet. So would a new marine class.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'd love to have "synthetic" marines as a gap between marines and the exoskeleton, but that may be borrowing far to much from Aliens.

    Hmmm...I'll ruminate on that idea.
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