Low FPS with a good config.

NNeeOONNeeOO Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43402Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">On a Mac running Win7 x64</div>Hi I have got an iMac core i7. I use bootcamp with Win7 x64. 
My Mac run easily Battlefield Bad Company 2 in Full HD. But with NS2 I have to put the resolution at 720p and medium graph to have something a little fluid. I don't really understand why. Would you help me please?

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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    It's the alpha, nothing is optimized yet.
  • xposed-xposed- Join Date: 2007-09-23 Member: 62412Members, Constellation
    No-one can expect pristine performance just yet mate. It's not you, it's just the Alpha.
  • d3f1anc3d3f1anc3 Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 73007Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1785125:date=Jul 26 2010, 09:14 PM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Jul 26 2010, 09:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785125"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's the alpha, nothing is optimized yet.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Quoted for truth, /closetopic tbh
  • rinerriner Join Date: 2010-01-04 Member: 69881Members
    stop asking the SAME BS OVER AND OVER OMGFGGGGGGGG
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--quoteo(post=1785120:date=Jul 27 2010, 01:14 AM:name=NNeeOO)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NNeeOO @ Jul 27 2010, 01:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785120"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't really understand why.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You don't understand why you're getting poor performance in the first release of an <b>alpha</b> version of the game?

    Really?


    ...


    <b>Really?</b>
  • vaccinelolvaccinelol Join Date: 2009-12-14 Member: 69648Members
    hah! and you think its miserable playing on a good rig and getting poor fps. How about those of us who signed up for the alpha and barely meet the min requirements. Tons of fun.
  • NysikNysik Join Date: 2008-05-22 Member: 64312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1785434:date=Jul 27 2010, 05:18 AM:name=vaccinelol)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vaccinelol @ Jul 27 2010, 05:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785434"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hah! and you think its miserable playing on a good rig and getting poor fps. How about those of us who signed up for the alpha and barely meet the min requirements. Tons of fun.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Haha I feel for you.


    my rig is average, Q6600 with a radeon 4870 DDR5 or w/e


    I get a solid 10-15 fps.. :P
  • ItsJonoItsJono Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 73053Members
    edited July 2010
    >Mac

    Found your problem. Macs set of standardized hardware is lower than PC's. i7 is new to iMacs and graphics hardware as well. Not to mention bootcamp'ing uses unoptimized drivers since it isn't the primary function for macs.

    Also the fact it's an ALPHA. All of those issues combined, it isn't going to be a great gaming experience.

    On a side note: J'ai une tour d'Eiffel dans mon pantalon :3
  • RedDragonGeckoRedDragonGecko Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10564Members
  • Dickbeard the PirateDickbeard the Pirate Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73082Awaiting Authorization
    >using a mac

    Well, THERE'S your problem


    I have a mediocre PC, q9400, gtx260, 4gb ram. Get perfect FPS. The main complaints I have are that the graphics look a little dodgy and I can't seem to apply much anti-aliasing to the game.
  • NysikNysik Join Date: 2008-05-22 Member: 64312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1785629:date=Jul 27 2010, 06:28 AM:name=######beard the Pirate)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (######beard the Pirate @ Jul 27 2010, 06:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785629"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->>using a mac

    Well, THERE'S your problem


    I have a mediocre PC, q9400, gtx260, 4gb ram. Get perfect FPS. The main complaints I have are that the graphics look a little dodgy and I can't seem to apply much anti-aliasing to the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    To be honest that's not really a mediorce PC.


    Your PC is miles ahead of MANY people i know that are trying to play this and will get SC2 tomorrow.
  • KarrdeKarrde Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16264Members
    edited July 2010
    I'll take your "mediocre PC" running a GTX 260. I'm running this on a 2.4 ghtz C2D (T7700), and a 256 mb geforce 8600m GT. Laptop. I'm just happy I can sorta run it on dead ass lowest settings. This is a HUGE improvement in comparison to the engine test as well. As a team member on a game that's seeing a lot of optimization (Earth's Special Forces), trust me when I say "just wait, optimization will come with time." There's plenty of time to get everything working.
  • QuadLMGkillQuadLMGkill Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72576Members
    edited July 2010
    People with 10 year old rigs need to worry about a new system. I have a good rig and it lags bad. It's Alpha though...

    Mind you, quadcore 4gb, 260gtx 8-20fps with only me on the server pretty much renders me useless testing anything.
  • Dickbeard the PirateDickbeard the Pirate Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73082Awaiting Authorization
    <!--quoteo(post=1785672:date=Jul 27 2010, 04:52 PM:name=Nysik)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nysik @ Jul 27 2010, 04:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785672"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To be honest that's not really a mediorce PC.


    Your PC is miles ahead of MANY people i know that are trying to play this and will get SC2 tomorrow.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Yes but those people have PC's from the mid 90's, they're not PC gamers, they don't count. John Carmack would be ashamed that PC's like those still exist.

    My rig is VERY mediocre in terms of current gen technology, hoping to upgrade to a GTX 470 soon.
  • QuadLMGkillQuadLMGkill Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72576Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1785712:date=Jul 27 2010, 07:14 AM:name=######beard the Pirate)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (######beard the Pirate @ Jul 27 2010, 07:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785712"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes but those people have PC's from the mid 90's, they're not PC gamers, they don't count. John Carmack would be ashamed that PC's like those still exist.

    My rig is VERY mediocre in terms of current gen technology, hoping to upgrade to a GTX 470 soon.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How are you getting perfect FPS then? I have nearly an identical rig. I did host a server, it was just me on it. I went tskulk to test out the movement but I get 8-20FPS. Pretty much impossible to do anything. I get 150+ CSS and UT3, even an Alpha shouldn't be this laggy on my rig. 1920x1200 res.
  • DarakianDarakian Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31233Members
    Try switching into albedo mode
    r_mode albedo
    It's upped my fps from ~5 to ~20 :D
  • AyjonaAyjona Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73099Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1785569:date=Jul 27 2010, 08:06 AM:name=ItsJono)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ItsJono @ Jul 27 2010, 08:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785569"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->>Mac

    Found your problem.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, there's always at least one that replies as thus in every support thread where a game is run in windows on a mac.

    But no. It has nothing to do with his machine. He even gives you an example of a very demanding game running in full HD at good speed.

    Boot Camp has no unoptimized drivers (and if the drivers are still not to the user's liking, it is always possible to install others). And macs' "set of standardized hardware" does not produce sub-par gaming performance. I know this for a fact, since I've empirical knowledge that supports my claim.

    I've run extensive tests on several macs and PCs with as similar hardware as possible (down to them using the same graphics cards, etc), and found that there is virtually NO difference in performance (and nor should there be) of graphical operations in Windows, between a mac and PC using the same/very similar hardware. Games were tested in particular, and the results were the same for both AAA titles (with enough funding to optimize the game to account for any possible differences in mac and PC Windows drivers), and indie games (with no funding to perform aforementioned optimization, thus suggesting that it is not needed).

    My own computer, a first-gen MacBook Pro that is truly starting to show its age, outperforms similar PC counterparts in the gaming department, recently achieving 10-15 additional fps in Oblivion when compared to a tweaked old Alienware laptop.

    In this case, "alpha" is all that was needed to answer the OP's question.
  • NysikNysik Join Date: 2008-05-22 Member: 64312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1785716:date=Jul 27 2010, 07:15 AM:name=QuadLMGkill)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (QuadLMGkill @ Jul 27 2010, 07:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785716"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How are you getting perfect FPS then? I have nearly an identical rig. I did host a server, it was just me on it. I went tskulk to test out the movement but I get 8-20FPS. Pretty much impossible to do anything. I get 150+ CSS and UT3, even an Alpha shouldn't be this laggy on my rig. 1920x1200 res.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm also wondering how.


    I have 90+ on COD 4/WaW ect.


    I understand this is an alpha.. but Optimization needs to be done asap.. because it's hard to test a product when it runs very badly on a decent computer.


    and no my rig is not from the 90s.
  • DarakianDarakian Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31233Members
    Agreed. One of the best things about NS was that it ran on ANYTHING.
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    I have a feeling there's still a lot of fixing to go.

    Still, there's way more stuff than the engine test, and I think the performance is a step up from the Engine Test (no more infinite bullet loop bug yet!). But no, it is not ready for 60+fps on my 8800GT AMD Dual Core 2GB RAM system.
  • Dickbeard the PirateDickbeard the Pirate Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73082Awaiting Authorization
    <!--quoteo(post=1785716:date=Jul 27 2010, 05:15 PM:name=QuadLMGkill)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (QuadLMGkill @ Jul 27 2010, 05:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1785716"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How are you getting perfect FPS then? I have nearly an identical rig. I did host a server, it was just me on it. I went tskulk to test out the movement but I get 8-20FPS. Pretty much impossible to do anything. I get 150+ CSS and UT3, even an Alpha shouldn't be this laggy on my rig. 1920x1200 res.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Have you defragged your drive / updated drivers / run CC cleaner etc lately?

    You could also try <a href="http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html" target="_blank">http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html</a>
  • NNeeOONNeeOO Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43402Members, Constellation
    Thank you everyone for your answer.
    So, I have to wait for an up date.
  • SajSaj Join Date: 2003-01-30 Member: 12936Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    stop paying 6 times the value of the parts in the box and get a pc and you would be much better off.
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