Upcoming Steam Update

SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Question???</div>If the next update is being released via steam is it still going to be released via your own updater as well.

If not then how are we going to get the update if we have not registered the game with steam?

<i><b>Why would you not rgister the Key with Steam?</b></i><u></u>
I was under the impression from something I picked up on a while back where I am sure someone said that if you registered your key with steam then UWE would have to pay a fee to them for DLC costs?
I wanted to avoid that so every peeny stays in development...

How else will steam know if the game is installed if you havent activated it with them?
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  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    as far as i know, steamworks, which is what theyre using, just gives them a way for players to find servers and talk to each other. they still provide their own update server cause its not a valve game, i guess. im sure someone else can clarify it more, and i think steam will be required since they decided to use steamworks
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  • PipiPipi Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69550Members
    To quote a twitter post:

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS2 is coming to Steam! Valve says pre-orders WILL be brought over.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    I wonder if they let them off and didnt ask for a commision on the transfare of the pre-orders then..
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  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769399:date=May 1 2010, 07:57 AM:name=SgtBarlow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SgtBarlow @ May 1 2010, 07:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769399"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder if they let them off and didnt ask for a commision on the transfare of the pre-orders then..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I doubt we'll ever know. Steam makes companies using their distribution technology sign an NDA to not reveal how much of a cut they take.
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  • ItalianmagicItalianmagic Join Date: 2008-12-13 Member: 65755Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769424:date=May 1 2010, 02:53 PM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ May 1 2010, 02:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769424"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I doubt we'll ever know. Steam makes companies using their distribution technology sign an NDA to not reveal how much of a cut they take.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    out of speculation... prolly between 25-40%
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I would think, since the current release of the game hasn't been marketed, promoted, or distributed in any way, valve wouldn't be taking very much of a cut of what has been sold already. As soon as you are actually selling through steam I think valve gets a reasonably large cut, depending on the strength of the title (they probably get practically nothing for modern warfare games sold through steam, because the game would sell awesome either way, so valve gets a user bonus just for having it available. but indie games get HUGE sales boosts from being supported by valve, so valve probably takes a much larger cut there)
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  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    I believe there were numerous reports that said Steam compares <i>very</i> favorably to retail or M$ distributions, so at least there's that. As has been mentioned before, there's an NDA on the issue, so I wouldn't exactly expect a response... But we'll see.

    I'm pretty sure we'll have to activate the game for the next update, since they plan to do it through Steam.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Did you seriously just use a god damn dollar sign instead of an S when talking about Microsoft?
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    I don't see a dollar in Micro$oft.

    Flamebait aside, it appears it's not too costly. But buying from UWE themselves is the best option.
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  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    The next update will be Steam only (unless something unexpected happens and delays that too much). The way it will work is that you'll put your existing pre-order key into a web page and it will give you a Steam key that you can use to activate the game through Steam.
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  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    That'd certainly be convenient. Good job.
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Cool job
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  • RehnquistRehnquist Join Date: 2009-09-01 Member: 68672Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769602:date=May 3 2010, 01:34 PM:name=Max)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Max @ May 3 2010, 01:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769602"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The next update will be Steam only (unless something unexpected happens and delays that too much). The way it will work is that you'll put your existing pre-order key into a web page and it will give you a Steam key that you can use to activate the game through Steam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So I take it we're going to have to wait until Friday for this update or will it be a sneak attack sometime during the week?
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  • Lemming JesusLemming Jesus Join Date: 2010-04-13 Member: 71385Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769615:date=May 3 2010, 04:19 PM:name=Rehnquist)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rehnquist @ May 3 2010, 04:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769615"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So I take it we're going to have to wait until Friday for this update or will it be a sneak attack sometime during the week?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They have to work with Valve Time now. So give it a month.
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  • WarLoverWarLover Join Date: 2009-11-05 Member: 69276Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769618:date=May 3 2010, 07:45 PM:name=Lemming Jesus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lemming Jesus @ May 3 2010, 07:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769618"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They have to work with Valve Time now. So give it a month.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    LMAO valve time is too funny.
    Finally, NS2 appearing on steam w00t!
    Alpha really is coming, i was starting to get scared that it would come next year.
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  • JimydJimyd Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13289Members
    edited May 2010
    Maybe they got sucked into the office refrigerator, and now they are in Narnia Selection?

    Or maybe the whole box of animal crackers did a devour rush?
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  • EnragedPlatypusEnragedPlatypus Join Date: 2009-05-30 Member: 67567Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769625:date=May 3 2010, 09:14 PM:name=Jimyd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jimyd @ May 3 2010, 09:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769625"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe they got sucked into the office refrigerator, and now they are in Narnia Selection?

    Or maybe the whole box of animal crackers did a devour rush?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I heard there are half goat, half man creatures that run around on the ceilings on all fours, pouncing on anything that moves...
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  • 1mannARMEE1mannARMEE Join Date: 2008-09-23 Member: 65064Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769625:date=May 4 2010, 03:14 AM:name=Jimyd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jimyd @ May 4 2010, 03:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769625"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe they got sucked into the office refrigerator, and now they are in Narnia Selection?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I heard they just bumped into Eric Idle in the refrigerator, who was just preparing for a performance of his "Galaxy song" and so they stopped to have some tea and cookies together ...
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  • Lemming JesusLemming Jesus Join Date: 2010-04-13 Member: 71385Members
    They updated their Twitter! A screen shot! It's only a matter of days now.
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  • xXSMGXxxXSMGXx Join Date: 2009-12-22 Member: 69757Members
    NOOB Question

    What is being released on steam?
    Is it an update to the test engine or the alpha version already?

    Thanks
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  • JimydJimyd Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13289Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769889:date=May 5 2010, 03:38 PM:name=xXSMGXx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xXSMGXx @ May 5 2010, 03:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769889"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NOOB Question

    What is being released on steam?
    Is it an update to the test engine or the alpha version already?

    Thanks<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The BUS is finally making its stop.












    /LOL
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  • rutixrutix Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58208Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769889:date=May 5 2010, 10:38 PM:name=xXSMGXx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xXSMGXx @ May 5 2010, 10:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769889"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NOOB Question

    What is being released on steam?
    Is it an update to the test engine or the alpha version already?

    Thanks<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I can almost say with 100% accuracy that it will be the engine test with a patch.
    Don't think they will release alpha yet.
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  • WarLoverWarLover Join Date: 2009-11-05 Member: 69276Members
    Is it safe to assume that we'll also get the tools via steam also, because they do all run on the engine.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    Having the tools on steam would be awesome.
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Hehe, yeh the "Spark SDK" :)
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