$39.59 +VAT =?

NeXuZNeXuZ Join Date: 2003-08-12 Member: 19594Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Pre-Order from Sweden..</div>As now the dollar is high, $1 = 7.55 SEK. So SE version (yes as a few ppl who made this game ill support that and get SE) is what ill get.

So SE is $39.95 (301.69 SEK) but i need to know the VAT is..

Where can i check this VAT??

(sorry dont know where to post this)

Comments

  • RideRide Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22511Members
    edited May 2009
    Well, the VAT is probably the same amount that Americans pay when they buy other online games. Why would it matter?
    Plus the VAT is already included in the 39.95 -> if it werent it wouldve said so. Online distributors HAVE to tell you what other costs might arise when buying that product.
  • TwiStErTwiStEr Join Date: 2008-11-10 Member: 65415Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I ordered from Germany and i paid as much as anyone else from the US, except that paypal recalculated into Euros, but it didnt add anything else ... so when you order online (digital distribution via paypal here) paypal should just bill you the 39 something in SEK and thats it ....
  • NeXuZNeXuZ Join Date: 2003-08-12 Member: 19594Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1708513:date=May 30 2009, 11:50 AM:name=TwiStEr)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TwiStEr @ May 30 2009, 11:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708513"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I ordered from Germany and i paid as much as anyone else from the US, except that paypal recalculated into Euros, but it didnt add anything else ... so when you order online (digital distribution via paypal here) paypal should just bill you the 39 something in SEK and thats it ....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Even if its Euroes i pay the same..

    Convertion:

    $39.95 > €28.26 > 301.69 SEK.

    But as you feelas say that VAT is with the price then i can support ca 300 SEK.

    Well new Battlfield games are out so im going to keep an eye on this game. (unless i collect 300sek in a way as i needa job <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)
  • MetroMetro Join Date: 2007-09-15 Member: 62316Members
    edited May 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1708521:date=May 30 2009, 04:59 PM:name=NeXuZ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NeXuZ @ May 30 2009, 04:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708521"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Even if its Euroes i pay the same..

    Convertion:

    $39.95 > €28.26 > 301.69 SEK.

    But as you feelas say that VAT is with the price then i can support ca 300 SEK.

    Well new Battlfield games are out so im going to keep an eye on this game. (unless i collect 300sek in a way as i needa job <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Well, NeXuS. My bill ended up on 313,56 SEK all things included so it's nothing to worry about.
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited May 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1708490:date=May 30 2009, 05:09 PM:name=NeXuZ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NeXuZ @ May 30 2009, 05:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708490"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As now the dollar is high, $1 = 7.55 SEK. So SE version (yes as a few ppl who made this game ill support that and get SE) is what ill get.

    So SE is $39.95 (301.69 SEK) but i need to know the VAT is..

    Where can i check this VAT??

    (sorry dont know where to post this)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i pay about 30 euros, so its fine.
    I guess you pay about 304 SEK
  • NeXuZNeXuZ Join Date: 2003-08-12 Member: 19594Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1708543:date=May 30 2009, 12:39 PM:name=Metro)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Metro @ May 30 2009, 12:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708543"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, NeXuS. My bill ended up on 313,56 SEK all things included so it's nothing to worry about.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    12sek more is not that bad, its like a soda drink here.
  • StreptoStrepto Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33571Members
    edited May 2009
    Just to confirm what Metro said, checked the transaction at my bank on the web.

    316,16 SEK

    The only difference is probably the currency exchange rates. You should be looking at only a few extra kronor.
  • RideRide Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22511Members
    This is basically because paypal is somewhat behind when it comes to currency values. Right now the course is somewhere around 1,41 - paypal is still on 1,38 iirc.
  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    No actually, papal is not behind at all. If you have read about it, they actually charge for currency conversions... hence why the actual currency is a little higher than the paypal one. Stupid i know...
  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    i could have sword it said ~350 SEK, so i looked up the reciept and 314, not complaining.
    about the tax, the swedish government already has the worlds hioghest taxes, so i think they have enough money.
    i'm anyway not STRIVING to give them any more money.

    i remember buying hl1 on steam for $10, but when i was gonna pay they added 25%, which is the swe tax.
  • SwampRatSwampRat Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13369Members
    sorry for raising an old thread, but this was something I was wondering about - is Unknown Worlds taking payments for pre-orders directly and having to sort out all of the various sales taxes or are they using people to do it for them? I'm guessing that currently the sales in each EU country fall under the various VAT thresholds, but that's a guess and personally I'd not want to contribute to UWE being flattened by a bundle of tax/customs authorities...

    VAT receipts should make it clear if it's being added.
  • SekerSeker Join Date: 2007-03-06 Member: 60259Members
    You only pay the 39 95 they do the rest
  • pellaajapellaaja Join Date: 2004-02-07 Member: 26198Members
    No VAT included. Only pay 28€ (39$)
    Paypal does a better job than steam btw. Their policy is 1€ = 1$ So buy now and save money if youre outside US :)
  • SwampRatSwampRat Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13369Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1744535:date=Dec 21 2009, 02:37 PM:name=Seker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Seker @ Dec 21 2009, 02:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744535"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You only pay the 39 95 they do the rest<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    My concern was whether anyone had thought about 'the rest', I appreciate that there's no liability for the consumer, it's whether there's a potential for someone to come along and snaffle >10% of the pre-order payments plus interest for late payment plus penalties for late filing etc...
  • BiglinesBiglines Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24094Members, Constellation
    edited December 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1744574:date=Dec 21 2009, 11:25 PM:name=pellaaja)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pellaaja @ Dec 21 2009, 11:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744574"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Paypal does a better job than steam btw. Their policy is 1€ = 1$ So buy now and save money if youre outside US :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats sooo far off the truth...

    steam charges VAT based on location, then uses whatever payment method to get that money

    paypal is just a method of paying, and it uses the normal exchange rate plus a rate they get for exchanging the currency, based on what the shop charges.

    uwe will probably be screwed if this is ever really investigated, because they should be paying the european governments VAT, even though they don't charge it in their payment options (which steam does). Some companies get away with it by stating that it's the customer's responsibility to pay the VAT themselves, but none of that was at the pre-order site, so UWE has to take care of it afaik.
  • pellaajapellaaja Join Date: 2004-02-07 Member: 26198Members
    Last time I did bussiness with steam, the rate was 1:1
    I visited steam just now.. Random game;

    39,99$ = 27,90€ + VAT = about 34€

    Price in steam = 49,99€

    Wat?
  • BiglinesBiglines Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24094Members, Constellation
    when steam still charged in dollars, they just converted it with the current exchange rates, then when localized currencies were introduced it was redone to fit other retail prices, including VAT, never 1on1 euro to dollar conversion

    it might have seemed that way with some exchange rates over the years, but that would have been a cooincidence, never exactly 1on1
  • SwampRatSwampRat Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13369Members
    Sorry for raising old threads; but this was the only place I could find that mentioned VAT etc (usefully you can't search for "VAT" or "sales tax" within the forum because it doesn't like 3 letter search terms) and I didn't want to start a new thread for it. Admittedly, the only place within the thread that talks about VAT in the same way as I'm about to is my earlier post in it. Hmm, I apologised for raising an old thread last time too. Ahem, sorry.

    Does anyone know if UnknownWorlds has sorted out the VAT or other sales tax implications of taking pre-orders yet? I'm resolutely avoiding pre-ordering at least partly because I don't want to add to a tax problem later. Has anyone pre-ordering from the UK had a VAT breakdown of their bill and does anyone know if they're now just selling through a third party (e.g. Valve) rather than directly?

    For the UK, there's no need until they hit £60k p.a. turnover, but that's fewer than 3k top price pre-orders and I thought globally there had been quite a lot. I can't remember where they gave a number though.
  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    Interesting. The USA and Canada does not have VAT, we have standard Sales Tax, but due to our laws, companies that do not have retail locations do not charge taxes on online purchases, so Steam purchases have no additional tax. NS2 is 39.95 for us, flat price.
  • NurEinMenschNurEinMensch Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14056Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1777001:date=Jul 5 2010, 08:04 AM:name=SwampRat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SwampRat @ Jul 5 2010, 08:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1777001"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sorry for raising old threads; but this was the only place I could find that mentioned VAT etc (usefully you can't search for "VAT" or "sales tax" within the forum because it doesn't like 3 letter search terms) and I didn't want to start a new thread for it. Admittedly, the only place within the thread that talks about VAT in the same way as I'm about to is my earlier post in it. Hmm, I apologised for raising an old thread last time too. Ahem, sorry.

    Does anyone know if UnknownWorlds has sorted out the VAT or other sales tax implications of taking pre-orders yet? I'm resolutely avoiding pre-ordering at least partly because I don't want to add to a tax problem later. Has anyone pre-ordering from the UK had a VAT breakdown of their bill and does anyone know if they're now just selling through a third party (e.g. Valve) rather than directly?

    For the UK, there's no need until they hit £60k p.a. turnover, but that's fewer than 3k top price pre-orders and I thought globally there had been quite a lot. I can't remember where they gave a number though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You must be the most honest man on the planet. Just pre-order already. Chances are whatever tax you have to pay is already being taken care of. If not then why should you pay a tax when you buy something from a website in a foreign country in the first place. If anything you'd have to pay import tariffs but there's a threshold I think and I doubt 40 Dollars is enough to let you go over it. If virtual goods are even subject to import tariffs at all.

    And if worst comes to worst you evaded what 5 pounds in taxes. Whoop-dee-effing-doo!
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