Onos

oscar5oscar5 Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67536Members
edited May 2009 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Onos looks too robotic???</div>Hey everyone, very keen on the NS2. Once released on steam i will be buying 2 copies, one for me and my gf. I have a bit of input, not bagging or anything but in the new teaser does anyone think the Onos is too robotic looking? I hope that the remaining other alien types are not like that. If anyone takes a look at the concept art located in the gallary and look at the lower bottom pictures and see the Onos, notice it looks more alien like. Simmiliar to something like in aliens the movie. Does anyone get my drift? Only my input but good work guys looking foward to seeing how things go.

Jamie

*just realised that i put tobotic <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> ment to be robotic*

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  • Batabusa2Batabusa2 Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67507Members
    I that an Onos? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
  • oscar5oscar5 Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1708284:date=May 29 2009, 06:31 PM:name=Batabusa2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Batabusa2 @ May 29 2009, 06:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708284"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I that an Onos? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lmao what the? What do you mean. clear english my friend <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    The only thing I think that needs to be changed is the ivory?? that covers the legs, they look a bit too square. But apart from that I can see why the onos has all that extra armour, and I think it looks really good.

    Since it used to get owned to smithereens by a bunch of marines with HMGs, the onos has "evolved" armour plating on the front so it gets less damage when charging (and it can also bust through doors). You can kinda see this in the way that there is ivory (or plating, whatever it's called) growing over the existing horn.
  • RideRide Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22511Members
    My first thought was "oh noooo wheres my old fluffy onos" (I still hope they will someday release the old onos as plush toys), but after watching it for the 25th time I totally love the new one. Looks way more frightening, strengthy and capable of doing a mess.
  • Batabusa2Batabusa2 Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67507Members
    Is it an onos, doesn't look like one except from the size and the mouth, and the four legs offc <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • MammalMammal Join Date: 2007-03-12 Member: 60344Members, Constellation
    I like the Onos, but it look kinda rockish.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I don't like how the carapace armor seems to be fitted above the skin instead of set in to the skin. On the original Onos, or on, say, our fingernails, the hard, armor part is at about skin level, so it fits in and looks like a natural outgrowth of the body. On the new Onos, it looks like someone strapped a bunch of armor to him. It looks unnatural.
  • gustavo00gustavo00 Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67509Members
    I really liked the new onos. It looks less like a cow, more like a frightening alien creature.

    And.. well.. it is not a dinosaur, it is not an animal from earth or anything. Looks pretty damn good to me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
    And if you took a close look to the video and saw the skulk, it is not like that. It looks like the original one =D
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    edited May 2009
    I'd have to disagree. This new Onos blows the old one apart. The newer Onos looks to be what an Onos, in my mind, should have always been: a big tank-link creature that can take a crap-ton of damage.

    So long as they're actually something to fear in NS2, unlike their current status in NS1, I think the new look fits the creature's role very well. Plus, how badass could it be if an Onos could bash down a welded door like that?
  • yEnSyEnS Join Date: 2003-06-26 Member: 17722Members
    When you see an Onos in Natural Selection you rush and try to knife him. Now, in Natural Selection 2, you run away <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

    That Onos it's amazing, keep the good work!
  • aegixaegix Join Date: 2002-08-31 Member: 1256Members, NS1 Playtester
    its quite hypnotic
  • NS-SkorpioNNS-SkorpioN Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58101Members
    Sorry guys... definitely still don't like me, especially the design of your head <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • Raza.Raza. Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25663Members, Constellation
    I like the new onos, except for the armor on its front-legs and the horns/tentacles around its head.
    They don't look organic at all, way too square.
  • oscar5oscar5 Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67536Members
    I think id agree, the Onos size is great its scary and looks like a alien from the sides and back. The armor is fake looking. It needs to be more organic. Doesnt look like something that has "evolved" i think in most cases it needs to have a armour that is organic. The armor on it at the moment looks like something off resident evil "nemisis" seriously I think the armor needs to go a something like the concept art. Does anyone agree?
  • NS-SkorpioNNS-SkorpioN Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58101Members
    As I say, in my opinion is still very like a Planet Earth animal... such a Rhino <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • OnkelOnkel Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67544Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1708321:date=May 29 2009, 01:20 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TychoCelchuuu @ May 29 2009, 01:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708321"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't like how the carapace armor seems to be fitted above the skin instead of set in to the skin. On the original Onos, or on, say, our fingernails, the hard, armor part is at about skin level, so it fits in and looks like a natural outgrowth of the body. On the new Onos, it looks like someone strapped a bunch of armor to him. It looks unnatural.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • DrownDrown Underwater Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10392Members
    I don't think the layered carapace (on the legs) looks unnatural at all, and I really like the style of the flared head horns, kind of reminds me of a samurai helm - also they are useful for gouging marines as the beast tears through a group... just moves its head side to side! I'm really curious to see him in action vs a ladder though!
  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    hey, those guys (UWE) made Natural-Selection 1, we / you should trust them.

    and in case that a big amount of old school NS gamers will not like the new onos when the game is released,
    someone will anyway come up with the idea to make his own NS1-ish looking onos model
    replacement.

    uwe wants ns2 to be one of the most modded games, and if replacements / ideas / additions appear which
    are better than the original they might will go in to the original game, like it happened in NS1. (which is actually
    a very good strategy <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> )
  • MetroMetro Join Date: 2007-09-15 Member: 62316Members
    Hey, anyone considered that might be the look of an Onos with the Carpace upgrade? And that it looks more like the Concept Art without it? That would be sweet! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

    I love the new looks in any case!
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    Robotic? nooo...it looks more like a animal with many bones and strong armor (im not english, my english suc** have a nice day <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> )
  • oscar5oscar5 Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67536Members
    It doesnt matter regardless the devolpers prob will just keep it like that. They wont want input from people of the forum i think, its because its too much work to change and also they released the trailer. But well see how it goes when it comes out.
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I think it looks great - nice and mean, not something you'd like to encounter around a corner.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't like how the carapace armor seems to be fitted above the skin instead of set in to the skin<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, to me it looks like 2 large slabs of metal have been welded onto it's legs <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • gustavo00gustavo00 Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67509Members
    i just find wierd the plated armor on the onos chest.
    I see you guys talking about organic stuff, but the onos came from somewhere else in the galaxy.

    I agree it would be nice to se it as a only organic terran animal... but it is not terran. As a design option, it can ofcourse look like something from erath, but nothing dictates its looks since the almighy onos came from ... dont remember <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • MetroMetro Join Date: 2007-09-15 Member: 62316Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1708410:date=May 30 2009, 11:43 AM:name=gustavo00)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gustavo00 @ May 30 2009, 11:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708410"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i just find wierd the plated armor on the onos chest.
    I see you guys talking about organic stuff, but the onos came from somewhere else in the galaxy.

    I agree it would be nice to se it as a only organic terran animal... but it is not terran. As a design option, it can ofcourse look like something from erath, but nothing dictates its looks since the almighy onos came from ... dont remember <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Kharaa are by definition a Terran experiment gone wrong? I believe they were bacteria that some scientists were fiffeling about with and they started evolving at uncontrollable rates? I may be wrong though!
  • daidalosdaidalos Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28854Members, Constellation
    Huh?
    I thought the official storyline states, that the people from earth have been building colonies across the galaxy and some day they came across some alien life forms and were attacked.
  • NS-SkorpioNNS-SkorpioN Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58101Members
    Since one of the main characteristics of the Onos is a horn that decorates his enormous head, it is very difficult to move away from the appearance of a Rhino, anyway I made these concepts to give an idea of how I would like it to have it.

    A massive head in front in order to knock down doors and a short horn to accentuate even more the robust aspect of the head, multiple horns and eyes to give a stranger and more "creature" look and blunt teeth to be able to crunch all the catch.

    <a href="http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3782/onosi.jpg" target="_blank">http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3782/onosi.jpg</a>

    Also it could have a "flexible" mouth, to make more believable that it swallows a complete HA, something like this:

    <a href="http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7920/onosjaws.jpg" target="_blank">http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7920/onosjaws.jpg</a>
  • willkillforfoodwillkillforfood Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15029Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1708417:date=May 30 2009, 07:06 AM:name=NS-SkorpioN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NS-SkorpioN @ May 30 2009, 07:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708417"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Since one of the main characteristics of the Onos is a horn that decorates his enormous head, it is very difficult to move away from the appearance of a Rhino, anyway I made these concepts to give an idea of how I would like it to have it.

    A massive head in front in order to knock down doors and a short horn to accentuate even more the robust aspect of the head, multiple horns and eyes to give a stranger and more "creature" look and blunt teeth to be able to crunch all the catch.

    <a href="http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3782/onosi.jpg" target="_blank">http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3782/onosi.jpg</a>

    Also it could have a "flexible" mouth, to make more believable that it swallows a complete HA, something like this:

    <a href="http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7920/onosjaws.jpg" target="_blank">http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7920/onosjaws.jpg</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Wow, I gotta say, I really like your designs a lot more <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />. Tbh, I think the onos looks WAY too boxy, which does not look natural. Nature has a lot more curves with creatures.
  • OkazakiOkazaki Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63532Members
    edited May 2009
    Well i really enjoyed the teaser video!!! and i think that ONOS looks so freakin AWESOME.

    I'm guessing that is an onos with a carapce upgrade, and it rly fits to the teaser so that ppl get the idea that the marine has a 0% chance of surviving fighting against it =).

    and no rinos or dinosaurs PLZ!!!!
  • XanthyrXanthyr Join Date: 2009-01-09 Member: 66026Members
    I like the new onos a lot, the only thing that I'm still am reluctant to absolutely love is the main box/horn that he has, but that could just be to make ramming (doors) easier. It does look stone-like, and I dare-say looks like a direct excerpt from Incan mythology.

    I remember seeing some image of a statpoint-slider brainstorm. If that has any validity, that could cause a difference in outward appearance.
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